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A Tale of 'Merica and Milk - I just walked out and abandoned a job interview. FML.
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Wow, just saw this thread. I need that Tyra 'we were all rooting for you' gif. I remember OPs thread about how hard it was to find work because people were discriminating because of a misdemeanor years ago from his youth. And how hard he was working to correct things and get his life on track. I was thinking; 'Damn, that is unfair, I hope things work out in his favor and he finds something.'
Seeing this thread makes me sad. OP if you are still reading this, humble yourself. An hour long wait is nothing in comparison to a stable job in your chosen field. From what I've read, you make excuses that the job/environment was probably bad anyway. But you don't know that and you will never know it now. This could have been a great start for your future.
Whatever you think you know about the interview/hiring process, you need to throw it out the window. You don't have to become someone's whipping boy in order to get a job. But many careers may ask you to bend a little to fit the environment. That is not disrespectful to you, and it's not a power play by the company. That's just how things go in the business world.
Still rooting for you OP, just do better next time. Have more patience; be humble, and no more petulant e-mails!
Seeing this thread makes me sad. OP if you are still reading this, humble yourself. An hour long wait is nothing in comparison to a stable job in your chosen field. From what I've read, you make excuses that the job/environment was probably bad anyway. But you don't know that and you will never know it now. This could have been a great start for your future.
Whatever you think you know about the interview/hiring process, you need to throw it out the window. You don't have to become someone's whipping boy in order to get a job. But many careers may ask you to bend a little to fit the environment. That is not disrespectful to you, and it's not a power play by the company. That's just how things go in the business world.
Still rooting for you OP, just do better next time. Have more patience; be humble, and no more petulant e-mails!
Opinionatedfish
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Thank you for replying. What prevents your managers to give you much more work than what you can finish in regular working hours? This seems like a huge grey area.
That's not necessarily true.
I'm a salaried employee who gets paid overtime for any work over 40hrs.
I do not get less if I work less than 40, but any more and I get overtime.
That's because part of my job description involves what would technically fall until the 'Technician' category and any who is expected to act as a Technician is required by law to be compensated for overtime.
There are probably other 'loopholes' on the books similar to this to allow overtime to salaried employees.
fatigues_gasolini
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There's really nothing except for turnover from overworking staff. My old job refused to hire more staff in my department even though we were way understaffed. We were just told to finish the work under the threat of being fired.
David Incorporated Esq.
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It is a huge grey area and lots of managers take advantage of salaried personnel to fix their schedule and budget issues.
That's what gets me... After the "red flags" and possibly false assumption of th situation (we'll never really know), the decision to not ask what was going on, and then walking out, he STILL had a chance to right things depending on his response to the email!
But i guess the mind was made up over what the situation was.
Kinda sad in a way. I was glad he posted though, because I'll admit most people wouldn't have laid out everything like he did.
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Deleted member 80556
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I don't think even the Project Beast thread achieved 42 pages in a single day.
ThatGuyAgain
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This is one for the books.
ZackieChan
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Why are you rooting for him? He sounds insufferable and brought this problem on himself.
samus i am
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Did anyone post a thread recap?
RoninChaos
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Especially since he said he's been waiting like 8 years to get something and get out of the hole he's in. Jesus.
Wait, OP is Nintenosbooger?
quickwhips
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I do this shit all the time. I even tell my boss. Nothing ballsy about wanting the best for yourself.
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Skimmed through most of this thread, and wow... Incredible content.
Almost surprised by how many people sympathized with Thacker. Where do they get such a strong sense of self worth and lack of humility?
I do know a few people like this in real life. They are constantly sabotaging themselves due to perceived slights. It's really sad to see.
Well, at least you didn't disagree that it's stupid.
Anyway, he never said anything about "wanting the best for yourself." Booking an interview during a time when you have other important obligations is what he was talking about.
Almost surprised by how many people sympathized with Thacker. Where do they get such a strong sense of self worth and lack of humility?
I do know a few people like this in real life. They are constantly sabotaging themselves due to perceived slights. It's really sad to see.
Well, at least you didn't disagree that it's stupid.
Anyway, he never said anything about "wanting the best for yourself." Booking an interview during a time when you have other important obligations is what he was talking about.
Yeah I have a friend who is almost constantly thinking people slight him.
Lost numerous jobs over it.
I've had many deep conversations with him about it and he's improved a lot. But he has had employment problems for over a decade and still continues to make huge deals of things at his jobs. He tells me about them and I wince every time.
His issue is he thinks everyone is threatened by him and his ego. He's also incredibly social and nice, so it evens out in the end, but I know he's also lost friends over his ego.
DoktorEvil
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So OP banned and terrisus banned?
Zoe
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terrisus got banned in the "not so good parent" thread.
AstroNut325
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I refuse to believe this wasn't just some big elaborate troll. The only way I would start believing it if the boss/owner/interviewer starts posting in this thread and shows uncensored proof.
Randolph Freelander
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What, you think he actually still has a small chance, given his email back-and-forth with the owner?
I guess there's a small chance nobody gets the job.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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So, Thacker went to jail cause he punched his girlfriend...?
Joe Shlabotnik
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OP's posting history--across several forums, apparently--crosses the troll/authenticity threshold; i.e. trolling for this long and this consistently is effectively no different from being the genuine article. It is equally incredulous that someone would either be this person or be so dedicated to *pretending* to be this person. (By the way, there has to be a term for this.) So, it's a moot point.
Also for what it's worth, the interviewer's style and grammar in his e-mail is subtly different from OP's--using 3p when OP says 3 o'clock etc. Seems like the real deal.
I don't think so.
But I definitely think he was exaggerating his own personality in the thread.. he admitted to being angry. When angry you'll post shit you don't necessarily mean. The more arrogant / flippant / 'Merica stuff could probably be taken as at least half trolling.
But his more level headed posts all were similar in tone, just not quite at the same level.
DoktorEvil
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It was only a matter of time. His sarcasm can wear thin sometimes.
I think he was charged with a misdemeanor. I can't remember but it was in a thread he posted before.
He was charged with battery and pleaded no contest.
He says she "beat him over the head with a phone".. I saw other people say he punched her and pushed her. But I never saw a post from him verifying that. It's a big thread. In my opinion the goal of his thread was to downplay his crime and paint himself as a victim. I do agree we are too harsh on criminals in this country with background checks and how culture basically makes it hard to reform, but his entire goal was to stress that it was merely a misdemeanor, and he avoided even saying what the misdemeanor was.. when he did bring it up he stressed that it was a "mutual fight" and was bitter about how his ex-gf didn't face the same social stigma... surely the crime itself is what caused companies to look elsewhere. Many people with misdemeanors get jobs no problem, but if it's related to beating a woman people react differently.
He was also 19 at the time, and not a child or anything.
I don't think he was exaggerating his personality. He created this thread for sympathy and when people started to rightly criticize him for his stupid decision he got incredibly defensive. And there's no good defense like a good offense so he decided to then go on the offense and attack everyone as peasants and plebs who have no problem working for the table scraps companies throw towards us. There's no trolling going on here just an incredibly flawed individual.
Yeah I guess I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
But he's unemployed, so perhaps he doesn't get benefits.
dang. lol.
It's generally accepted that you are a salaried employee because you will put in the time and effort required to get the job done. You have more flexibility in your hours because it's the work that needs to get done. I've had 60 hour work weeks and 30 hour work weeks. It depends on the work at the time.
True. There are plenty of exceptions. It's pretty unusual for a position that is required to pay overtime for a position to have "salaried" employees though. Even my father in law who has worked for IBM for 30+ years is still an hourly employee because he is a technician and would be paid overtime regardless (and gets overtime quite often).
This thread is all over the place, but I would like to say that it's perfectly ok for you to walk out of an interview, for whatever reason, if you feel it's not going to be the place for you. People don't seem to understand that in an interview, both parties are being evaluated. If a prospective hire feels like a company doesn't take the hiring process seriously, or are handling it in an unprofessional or disrespectful manner, then they're 100% justified in leaving vs having more of their time wasted b/c the hiring manager (or whomever) feels they have more important things to do. If there is an allotted timeframe for parts of an interview, the company doing the hiring needs to effectively communicate that schedule to the candidate and be able to handle changes eg the candidate finishes paperwork in 20 minutes vs 45 minutes (at least by telling them they've allotted more time and the next step will be in a half an hour--keeping someone in the dark is just rude, and not a good first impression). If a company is looking for people in a competitive market, and does not keep things like this in mind, they'll be looking for a long long time--even if people don't straight-up walk out, poor impressions of time management and communication skills should be key indicators of how working in that environment will be, if they chose to accept a position there.
Randolph Freelander
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In a healthy job market, employee retention is a problem. You cannot abuse them, particularly people with skills that are in demand. They'll just leave.
I'm going with Zoe here. Unless you end up in IT, you won't need to know very much about Oracle. Maybe how to use SQL to interrogate the database in case of a problem, but that is really easy if you're good at logical thinking.
The Maverick
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I have to say, from reading his thread on being unable to find even $10 jobs, to this thread, the Thacker saga earns 5 stars from me. Just mindboggling. A true masterpiece.
What, you think he actually still has a small chance, given his email back-and-forth with the owner?
I guess there's a small chance nobody gets the job.
I don't know about that. And with the way that the OP E-mailed his interviewer seen here (for no reason, really) was the nail in the coffin, in which that letter is going to get passed around & then he'll have very limited chances of getting into the field around his city.
Alcoremortis
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Thacker should take this experience and write a novel about the trials and tribulations of waiting forty-five minutes in the modern competitive job market. Not sure if it would be drama or romance, but it'd be sure to make the New York Times bestseller list.
Probably make back the 70K he lost out on.
Well... unless the publisher made him wait forty-five minutes.
Probably make back the 70K he lost out on.
Well... unless the publisher made him wait forty-five minutes.
Gaf baited him for 12 or so pages and he cracked.
Read Lionel's post for the whole thing.
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