E3 2014 | Nintendo Treehouse Live @ E3 [ it's over :( ]

If you're a Nintendo fan, watching Giant Bomb coverage is as insightful as Fox News discussing policies of Obama. Honestly can't stand them simply because their tastes are as far away from mine as humanely possible. Nothing personal against them they seem very credible but as a huge fan of Japanese games they're opinions are pretty much worthless to me.
 
I hate to be a downer and I'm sure I'll be eating crow, but I just don't see Mario Maker being wildly successful. At least, not on the scale of a real mario platformer game. It will probably be popular when compared to a regular game, but on the Mario scale, I expect it to sell lower. Unless it also has a real game packed in with it, Editor type games never seemed to be as successful. But I don't have the data in front of me, so bring on the counter examples and prove me wrong.
 
nbthedude said:
No. I'm watching the Splatoon coverage now and this is some hard sell bullshit.

"3 minute intense matches!"

"This game uses all of your skills and abilities!"

"I'm loving the squid motif."

"It just feels so good!"

"I love these levels. It's so stylish! . . . There's stickers everywhere! They are wearing headphones and sneakers!"


People complain about game media being shills, this shit is the shilliest of shill stuff. Ugh.

I'll stick with Giant Bomb please. If companies start shutting out journalists from doing video coverage and force use to watch hardsell bullshit to get a look at their game I may stop being interested in even checking these games out.
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Yeah, because normal media developer interviews are going to openly criticise every aspect of the game in front of the developer. Right.

I've watched these for long enough to know that that never happens. You're there being given an opportunity to present the game by the developer. You're going to focus on explaining how the game is played and all the positives as the developer is likely to know what faults that build of the game has and they will of course try and address them in further development. It's unfair to criticise too much before release.

The advantage here is the passion for the games and the detail they are going into. It's a great thing for us to watch.
 
I've really been liking the Treehouse stuff, but I feel like the segments are running a little bit long.

Miyamoto's tower defense thing looked like it felt long even to the people on stage. Lady asked "would you like to go one more round?" Everybody looks around like "ehhh.....". The game people cared to see (Star Fox) was a no-show.

Splatoon has been the same one map, characters, weapons all day, and this is now the second segment of it today with the same dudes just kind of droning on. It looks cool, man, but this is wearing out its welcome.

The Xenosaga demo was a bit forgiveable since the game looked huge and there was a lot to try to go see.
 
I hope Miyamoto shows up again to talk about Mario Maker, that would be ace! They teased another "special guest" and the past two have been Miyamoto and Aonuma.
 
DeaviL said:
Please don't come in here and act like you're coming to give a "balanced perspective".
There's a clear pattern to your posts.







PC rules, consoles suck.

WE GET IT.
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Yeah you left out the posts where I said Nintendo had the best show of the big three or the parts where I was excited about Blood Borne or how much I love my Vita. Nice selective quoting there. And also what in the hell any of that has to do with this conversation, I have no idea. So stop trying to attack ad hominem.
 
EskimoJoe said:
I hate to be a downer and I'm sure I'll be eating crow, but I just don't see Mario Maker being wildly successful. At least, not on the scale of a real mario platformer game. It will probably be popular when compared to a regular game, but on the Mario scale, I expect it to sell lower. Unless it also has a real game packed in with it, Editor type games never seemed to be as successful. But I don't have the data in front of me, so bring on the counter examples and prove me wrong.
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depends on features and community
 
This is the beauty of Nintendo Treehouse presentation, no bullshots, no lies, no 20 minute interviews about why this game is at 989p running at 24 fps to achieve cinematic experience, no CG trailers... Just pure and authentic gameplay goodness.
 
Kinsei said:
I'm looking forward to the Mario Maker footage. As of right now I'm not really feeling the game, so seeing some pure gameplay might help.
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All I'm hoping for is the different playstyles to be represented - when the graphics are SMB, it plays like SMB and when the graphics are NSMB, it plays like NSMB.

I'm wishing really hard for characters, tiles sets and items from 2, 3, and World, but that's starting to seem unlikely.
 
Easy_D said:
I'm imagining a Capture The Flag sort of mode, the hook being that the flag can only travel through the ink of the team that currently has it.
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Thatd be great, as well as capture the base. Where you have one specific area to cover, and you battle over covering all first, or maybe to a certain amount. Then a new capture zone spawns.
 
Scooter155 said:
All I'm hoping for is the different playstyles to be represented - when the graphics are SMB, it plays like SMB and when the graphics are NSMB, it plays like NSMB.

I'm wishing really hard for characters, tiles sets and items from 2, 3, and World, but that's starting to seem unlikely.
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It's coming in 2015, there might be more than we know right now.
 
Karkador said:
I've really been liking the Treehouse stuff, but I feel like the segments are running a little bit long.

Miyamoto's tower defense thing looked like it felt long even to the people on stage. Lady asked "would you like to go one more round?" Everybody looks around like "ehhh.....". The game people cared to see (Star Fox) was a no-show.

Splatoon has been the same one map, characters, weapons all day, and this is now the second segment of it today with the same dudes just kind of droning on. It looks cool, man, but this is wearing out its welcome.

The Xenosaga demo was a bit forgiveable since the game looked huge and there was a lot to try to go see.
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Well they don't want to leave us with nothing to show.

After all, splatoons was announced today. Gotta get people to watch and not everyone was availible to watch it the first time.

I'm actually interested in Miyamoto's games though they look like they need to polish a lot. The feeling that it was long was probably because they have to translate from japanese to english and vice versa
 
nbthedude said:
Yeah you left out the parts where I said Nintendo had the best show of the big three or the parts where I was excited about Bloodborne or how much I love my Vita. Nice selective quoting there. And also what in the hell any of that has to do with this conversation, I have no idea. So stop trying to attack ad hominem.
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There is no PC representative for E3 so yeah.
You want me to go dive into your post history again?
 
It's killing me up how they keep cracking jokes about Bill's ability to play Splatoon.

I love this game. The mechanics are so innovative. It's awesome how you can sort of change your role or style of play without classes or skills. It's like everyone can adapt techniques to their playstyle whethere you want to be like a support class and just protect ground you've already painted or you want to be wading into enemy territory on the front lines or you want to play stealthy. This game is really impressing me with it's accessibility, depth, and innovation. I wonder if there will be voice chat.
 
nbthedude said:
Look, I like the idea of seeing more hands on coverage. But the idea that the guys providing it should be company shills hard selling the product is the part I don't like. I would much prefer lots of hands on footage from games media people.

And it really is possible that the future of game coverage is locking out the media and every big company just hiring their own fake media people to talk about how awesome their stuff is. I can't believe that is a future some people want.
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Well you vote with your wallet, or in this case, views :P if gaming media like Giant Bomb can't give the content the masses want they'll be displaced.

As said already no one is hiding the fact this is coming from Nintendo. The fact I've gotten more information from this stream than usual channels tells a lot. They not only are demoing the games, but also talking directly with producers and developers. It's very informative. I can weed out the advertisement part, is not that hard.
 
DataGhost said:
Well they don't want to leave us with nothing to show.

After all, splatoons was announced today. Gotta get people to watch and not everyone was availible to watch it the first time.

I'm actually interested in Miyamoto's games though they look like they need to polish a lot. The feeling that it was long was probably because they have to translate from japanese to english and vice versa
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Right, part of it is on me for having the thing on all day. But there are other things they could be showing! There were lots of games announced.
 
DeaviL said:
There is no PC representative for E3 so yeah.
You want me to go dive into your post history again?
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I am guilty of owning and loving my PC. Yeah it's my favorite platform. I also own a Wii U, a PS4 and a Vita. My thoughts are just as valid as anyone else's on those issues.

And again, my comments were about the idea of having video coverage straight from the companies with commentators doing hard sells and why I didn't like that. I gave a number of reasons but instead you seem to want to stupidly attack me for having a hidden agenda. Probably because you have no intelligent response to my argument.
 
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