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[watershed]

I'm glad it's getting a release at least.

 

[bobbytkc]

Just to temper people's expectations, it is a good game but not great. Gameplay wise, there is some similarity to crisis core, which again isn't that great a game. I have played a couple of hours of type 0 so far, and I will place it below Ff13-2 (which I feel is excellent Btw, but buried under Ff13 hate.)

The best game SE made the last generation is still FFX HD. So good.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

It's more gritty FF. There's blood, death, war & politics all the while still having the standard FF elements----chocobos, world map, airship.

1st 10mins is brutal. Makes you wonder what the big deal with Aeris was.

 

[clay_ghost]

XIII > LR > Type0 > > > > > > > > > Agito > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> XIII-2

I literally LOL . Never change suppadoopa.

EDIT
For those unaware, suppadoopa is a huge FF13/Lighting fan.

 

[Ganon Dragmire]

Better news than I could ever hope. It's time to celebrate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdkA7f-bTs

Fabula Nova Crystallis for next gen!

Once the eventual XIII collection gets made and XV is finally released, then all FNC titles will be in one great spot.

 

[KtSlime]

Like PS3 and XBOX360?

My guess is since Sony and MS are winding down support on PS3/360 they probably aren't too keen on developers announcing new games for those platforms. Were there any games at E3 announced for PS3/360 (I doubt it, but if there were I'd really like to hear about them)?

What probably happened is, PSP was dead by the time they were going to do the translation, since the game came out fairly late. They probably started work on moving it to Vita, but the Vita was stillborn, so then decided to move it to a platform that still has support, PS3 has already been cut off by Sony, so PS4/One were the only option left. Plus it probably helps them buy time for XV which if it flops would cause a lot more grief for SE than if this game flops.

 

[Usobuko]

I thought this was Agito to iOS/Android news and wonder why the thread got so big in such a small amount of time.

HD-fied Type-0 for both current gen console is a good choice, business wise. Far more viable than HD Vita or release the PSP version.

 

[Toth]

I hope tomorrow gives us some more concrete news and ends the speculation. I want to know if the title has even started or is almost done. The way the director says the translation is underway seems to indicate development was far along.

 

[thesolidshark]

Glad it's finally getting released in the West. Will probably look at it for PS4.

Sorry to hear about the deconfirmation for the Vita owners.

 

[Soriku]

My guess is since Sony and MS are winding down support on PS3/360 they probably aren't too keen on developers announcing new games for those platforms. Were there any games at E3 announced for PS3/360 (I doubt it, but if there were I'd really like to hear about them)?

What probably happened is, PSP was dead by the time they were going to do the translation, since the game came out fairly late. They probably started work on moving it to Vita, but the Vita was stillborn, so then decided to move it to a platform that still has support, PS3 has already been cut off by Sony, so PS4/One were the only option left. Plus it probably helps them buy time for XV which if it flops would cause a lot more grief for SE than if this game flops.

Little Big Planet 3 is crossgen.

Though it was probably a SE decision. If it release second half of 2015 then it makes sense. Like at least 2.5 Remix comes out this year. Plus they wanted the KH games on one platform and all that jazz, and they started working on 1.5 Remix a few years ago.

 

[HooYaH]

I hope tomorrow gives us some more concrete news and ends the speculation. I want to know if the title has even started or is almost done. The way the director says the translation is underway seems to indicate development was far along.

All I know is that this announcement is going to push XV further.

 

[KtSlime]

Little Big Planet 3 is crossgen.

Though it was probably a SE decision. If it release second half of 2015 then it makes sense. Like at least 2.5 Remix comes out this year.

I did not know this, thanks.

Yeah, I don't see it coming out until mid/late 2015, then they can push XV back to 2016 when there will hopefully be enough nextgen to mitigate some of the decline of the series sales. Seems like a pretty solid plan.

 

[jimmypython]

It's okay overall, nothing spectacular.
67 on mk2, which is basically the Japanese equivalent of Metacritic's users score. mk2 scores are usually on the low end, so that's probably closer to a 7 or 8.

My quick opinion:
- It was too ambitious for its own good and ended up incomplete.
- Leveling PC is a pain.
- The story is a mess and doesn't make sense if you don't read the huge encyclopedia thing. Many events happen off-screen or happen "just because".
- The world and towns are boring and bland. Invisible walls everywhere.
- The characters are underdeveloped, especially Class 0, the supposed "main" characters.
- The last dungeon and the events leading to it are a catastrophe. Worst last boss ever. I'm still wondering what they were thinking?

- looping town music is just cheap
-

Spoiler

killing off the entire Genbu section in the beginning of the game is just disgusting, for obvious budget/schedule reasons. they showed a detailed and complete setting (towns/landscape/people) in the official art book

They put a huge chunk of budget into famous voice actors, which is simply dumb to me. But still, type-0 is so much better than the Lightning games.

 

[kurahador]

1st 10mins is brutal. Makes you wonder what the big deal with Aeris was.

Well...FF7 lets you know Aerith, go into her home & date her. That's why it was a such huge deal back then, even now tbh.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

My feeling is that this will release the season before FFXV launches.

So if this launches summer/fall then XV will be fall/winter. If Winter then Spring etc...

Close as they will likely include a demo, trailer, preorder bonus etc...related to XV with the game.

 

[KtSlime]

Well...FF7 lets you know Aerith, go into her home & date her. That's why it was a such huge deal back then, even now tbh.

What about Josef?

 

[raven777]

Good to finally see this in HD, but was surprised at the platform choice.

 

[khaaan]

Type-0/Agito, Lightning Saga, and XV are under the FNC banner.

They all share the same Gods/Goddess, etc..

Gods and Goddess as in the concept of Fal'cie? Or will I find out soon enough?

 

[Aeana]

What about Josef?

It's cute that you think people played FF2. With the number of people who think that FF4 was the first game to even have a story, it's clear that most did not.

 

[Enthus]

It's cute that you think people played FF2. With the number of people who think that FF4 was the first game to even have a story, it's clear that most did not.

I played FF2 and wasn't affected by Josef's death.

 

[kurahador]

What about Josef?

Josef is ugly.

 

[jimmypython]

Gods and Goddess as in the concept of Fal'cie? Or will I find out soon enough?

They significantly simplified those concepts. In the game l'cies are the extremely powerful people. That's pretty much it. Of course you can dig deeper into the plot and make connections to the FNC mytho. but the story still makes sense if you don't know it.

Spoiler

the term fal'cie didn't even appear in the game- but you will figure out who's playing the role of them pretty easily.

 

[Aeana]

I played FF2 and wasn't affected by Josef's death.

Well, when did you play it? I played it when it came out and I was affected pretty heavily. I can imagine that if someone played it today, it might not be as effective.

 

[Past]

It's going to be such an insult if Japan end up getting before the West. I would say that's unlikely because the PS4 install base in Japan is so low and console gaming isn't that big over there, but then again KH HD 1.5 got released in Japan months in advance and is also getting KH HD 2.5 earlier despite the series being way more popular in the West.

 

[KtSlime]

It's cute that you think people played FF2. With the number of people who think that FF4 was the first game to even have a story, it's clear that most did not.

Yeah, that is true; it's really strange how some people are completely oblivious of some of the games.

I played FF2 and wasn't affected by Josef's death.

Way sadder than Aerith's death. He was a successful man with a career, daughter, and he even had a secret admirer. He gives it all up to save you and you don't even care. *sigh*

Josef is ugly.

Bald is beautiful.


Past: It's not even announced for Japan.

 

[Altered Juice]

I played FF2 and wasn't affected by Josef's death.

yep. ff2 had the biggest death toll and i honestly didn't give a damn

 

[JimPanzer]

was hoping to wake up and see it re-announced for vita. damn

 

[Iggins]

Wasn't PS4 at 7,2 million by the end of March 2014? You'd think they have sold ~1+ million units in the 2+ months since then, unless sales have dropped off the cliff.

Well I don't know but you can wait for an official report or trust on VGC.

There aren't a lot of JRPGs. People who want Japanese (role-playing) games on PS4 have fuck all to choose from and Type-0 HD might be selling to a starved crowd.

Sure, you're right but that doesn't answer my question. How many current gen owners are willing to pay $60 for this game, how many like it, how many are interested on it?

Other than Japan? Even Sony doesn't really seem to have much for it other than Freedom Wars, that weird JRPG with the lineage stuff and Soul Sacrifice 2.

I'm sorry but as far as I know we were talking specifically about Japan, you should take a look at the other posts. And yeah when you have Hatsune Miku Vita selling better than first party PS4 games you have an idea of how the Japanese market works.

By the time this releases, Xbox 360 will probably be on its deathbed (especially when it comes to releases like Type-0 HD, some CoDs and the like might still sell decently) and PS3 will be following its footsteps sooner rather than later. The people who actively buy games are moving on to current gen and PS360 are withering away much faster than PS1 or PS2 did. Some PS4 & Xbone multiplatform releases are already outselling their last-gen counterparts and publishers are starting to abandon PS360 altogether apart from the biggest franchises like CoD and sports games.

When the PS4 has sold 80+ units this argument will be true, for now, its not.

It just seems like you are constantly talking as if they are releasing it NOW. Sure, the install base isn't all that big yet and PS360 are still relevant, but it's an actively game-buying one and growing at a steady pace with no reason to think it'll be any different in the next 12-18 months (well, other than the slow summer months). The situation will very likely be much better in 12+ months from now, while both PS3 & 360 continue withering away. And Vita is already pretty irrelevant, other than indies, it will be even more irrelevant in 2015.

I'm sorry but I don't have the same amazing skills to speculate and read the future as you.

And it's not nonsense logic. If PS4 doesn't get even half-big releases before FFXV, it's pretty much guaranteed that FFXV itself will probably sell worse due to it. It's a system seller, sure, but the few hundred thousand people who might buy a PS4 to get FFXV aren't enough to count for all of the usual 1,5-2+ million people who've ended up buying mainline FFs in Japan in the past (and this game probably needs to sell at least 1+ million in Japan, even if the action RPG gameplay helps it in the West). Of course if FFXV ends up being sensationally well received, one of the best JRPGs of all time or something, then that might not matter as much, but if it's just a "typical" FF, then that might not be enough to get a lot of people buying unless they've had other reasons to buy the consoles before.

So according to you Type-0 is the PS4 savior? lol

Yeah, and for some, Type-0 might be a reason to get it sooner rather than later, especially when they know FFXV & KHIII are also coming at some point. And then those people will have a PS4 or Xbone already when FFXV releases, making it all the more likely they'll buy it at full price on Day 1. And others get more reason to get a PS4 or Xbone too, which will make it likelier that they'd pull the trigger and buy a PS4 or Xbone before or once FFXV's releases.

And how many are some?

They seem to be making this more than just the most straightforward & simplest of ports. At that point, porting it to Vita might be too much of a hassle.

Last time I checked money wasn't a hassle.

It's not dumb to want to look into the future and try to make steps that help make it likelier that that future is a good one. Not having a JRPG of the scope of FFXIII on PS3 until the end of its 3rd year really harmed the home console JRPG market. Type-0 HD is one more reason for JRPG fans in Japan (and all over) to get a PS4 or Xbone.

I thought it was pretty clear for everyone who follows the Japanese video games industry that the future is on mobile devices. I suppose some people are still in denial.

PS4 & Xbone's combined sales are already (over) half-way there to 25 million and they've only been on the market for about 7 months. If they can do that with the line-ups they've had and Xbone's price, then they can do a lot better in 12 months and with the kind of line-ups. Xbone just got a price-drop, we have a Fall filled with some pretty big releases that will get people to buy the new consoles + the Holidays + what is shaping up to be a potentially incredible Spring 2015 with all kinds of Witcher 3s, Batman Arkham Cities, Bloodbornes and whatnot. You don't need to be a fortuneteller to make the prediction that PS4 & Xbone combined will sell at least 10-15+ million units within the next 12+ months and that's lowballing their sales. PS4 alone will probably do those kinds of numbers in the next 12 months if not a lot more. And, hell, if MS getting their act together has a big enough impact, they might BOTH easily do those kinds of numbers within a year, meaning even 40 million isn't totally out of the question by mid 2015. Speculation? Sure, but far more likely than them suddenly stalling and staying at Vita-like numbers.

You really are blocked arent you? I'm not arguing about current gen software sales, i'm arguing about the fact that Type-0 won't sell 40 million copies on them, you seem to not understand that the amount of games sold is irrelevant to the sales of a single game, because if most of the owners arent interested on that game it wont sell, its that simple.

No, but I've followed the industry for most of my life and I've read what goes into the decision making in a lot of businesses. Evaluating future endeavours is one part of that. Those are the kinds of things that are considered when making decisions. Releasing the game on Vita might give them ok sales, but it doesn't help their future, as Vita is likely not living long past 2015, whereas PS4 & Xbone are just coming on their own in 2015 with cross-gen shit taking less & less attention, so it would make sense for Square Enix to focus on those platforms instead of Vita. PSP already showed them that focusing on a dead-in-the-west platform doesn't make much sense and can even harm them in the long run, when pretty much every major & minor release bombed and then they were late to everything.

And of course it's just speculation, but it's on a hell of a lot more steady ground than wondering why on Earth does a big publisher not support one of the worst selling gaming platforms of all time. Some platforms have done a lot better than Vita and the likes of EA, Ubisoft, Square Enix, Konami etc. have still abandoned them fairly early (if they've really supported them at all).

So basically you're going Patcher's way, you don't work for them so you dont know what their plans are, yet you make speculations out of your thoughts and make them pass as a potential fact. You're doing good.

Sony never released a 8.5 million report for the PSV.

If we're gonna make up numbers, then I'll just say PS4 is at 9 million.

I win.


PS.: For Vita to be at 8.5 million it would need to have sold nearly 4 million copies in Europe. jenniferlawrence-ok.gif.

As much as it pains me to say this, Farmassu is right. All 5 Vita fans were irrelevant to bringing this game to the West.

Good for you.

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

Josef is ugly.

Not as ugly as your HEART....*runs away sobbing*

 

[AwShucks]

It's cute that you think people played FF2. With the number of people who think that FF4 was the first game to even have a story, it's clear that most did not.

FF2 is in my to 5 numbered FF games.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

disappointed it's not on Vita (well, can't blame them with the sales of Vita), at least, we have PS4 version than nothing

 

[Gala]

Will play it on Vita

Spoiler

via Remote Play

 

[zeromcd73]

This is coming in 2015... right?

 

[RSLAEV]

It's good.

I can verify this. Only an hour or so in but it has none of the bullshit cringe that plagued FF13. The HD remaster should be a treat.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

I wonder why SE decided to go with PS4/Xbone over a PS3/360 port of the game. Not that I'm complaining, but I figured they''d go with something that had an even larger install base.

 

[Sandfox]

I wonder why SE decided to go with PS4/Xbone over a PS3/360 port of the game. Not that I'm complaining, but I figured they''d go with something that had an even larger install base.

I'd imagine that this is quite a ways off.

 

[Kintaro]

This was a mini megaton. Great job SE!

Vita is dead. =(

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

I'd imagine that this is quite a ways off.

I thought they said "soon" or was I just getting confused. Either way, if it was going to take some time to release, then I can understand the jump to current gen.

 

[KtSlime]

I wonder why SE decided to go with PS4/Xbone over a PS3/360 port of the game. Not that I'm complaining, but I figured they''d go with something that had an even larger install base.

A) If it bombs, oh well.

B) Grow FF mindshare on consoles prior to XV

C) Probably faster, they can get PS3 level graphics on the PS4 with less work than it would require on PS3/360...

D) PS4/One install base should be large enough by 2015 for Type-0 in the West.

 

[kubricks]

How I wish it was on Vita... but I do think PS4 needed this more, so this is understandable.
Will get on with the fan's patch, charging the dusted PSP now.

Life is good.

 

[ZSeba]

My feeling is that this will release the season before FFXV launches.

So if this launches summer/fall then XV will be fall/winter. If Winter then Spring etc...

Close as they will likely include a demo, trailer, preorder bonus etc...related to XV with the game.

That's too good to be true ;_;

 

[TheRook]

I played type-0 on PSP and while its one of my favorite Square games on the PSP( Dissidia 012, Crisis Core, Tactics Ogre), I'm not sure it's the best idea on what they decided to do with the game.

The game was designed around doing Quick missions that don't eat up alot of time. It was pretty ambitious for a PSP game being 2 UMD long and it's appeal isn't something that main stream FF players will flock to ( I guess that what was Bravely Default was for? ) But it's really targeted towards to PSP/PSVita type of gamer who wanted an action RPG with above normal production value for a handheld game.

This moving the PS4/X1 seems really bloated to me, had it been on PS3/360...I wouldn't be so conflicted about this because KH was ported to last gen. I "Think" I know what they are trying to do...and I really not sure if I like it...but...

Since the consensus among most people apparently is that FFXIII wasn't the FF game people wanted, they are attempting to re-brand/re-package FF as a action RPG series on 8th gen consoles, Starting with Type-0 to get people interested in FFXV. That sounds like a decent argument imo. regardless if all 3 games share the same lore, XIII had the bad stigma hovering over it...and by trying to associate Type-0 with XIII will apparently turn people off...so by making the shift to 8th gen with a HD remaster of the game, they hope to recapture the mainstream RPG consumer and get back old FF fans with Type-0...and eventually XV.

My whole problem with that idea is...the type of game Type-0...isn't really the game you want to make mainstream. Yes the setting, plot and characters are fitting, but the game itself isn't a PS4/X1 triple A production title...but SE will try to market it that way because it seems to me...everything is riding on XV and KH3.

At the end of the day, I was kinda torn to see Type-0 not being released on a handheld console...and for that reason I wont be able to play the game in the foreseeable future, but if the HD remaster has alot more to offer than a simple port...then maybe I could think about crying my eyes out again playing through type-0, But for now I'm focused on whats coming out in the next few months...

 

[Kagari]

I wonder why SE decided to go with PS4/Xbone over a PS3/360 port of the game. Not that I'm complaining, but I figured they''d go with something that had an even larger install base.

Like I said earlier, Sony tried to get them to do a Vita version but SE refused. Instead of going the logical way of at least doing a PS3 release they're now going to publish a 4 year old PSP port on new generation consoles without much in the way of visual upgrades.

If anything this whole plan might backfire on them as the game most definitely isn't up to console visual standards and not many will pay $400 to play it. They're doing a disservice to the FF fanbase which is largely existing on PS3 already.

 

[birthbysleep]

Like I said earlier, Sony tried to get them to do a Vita version but SE refused. Instead of going the logical way of at least doing a PS3 release they're now going to publish a 4 year old PSP port on new generation consoles without much in the way of visual upgrades.

If anything this whole plan might backfire on them as the game most definitely isn't up to console visual standards and not many will pay $400 to play it. They're doing a disservice to the FF fanbase which is largely existing on PS3 already.

It takes SE a ridiculously long time to release anything so by the time this comes out most will be on PS4 anyway

 

[KtSlime]

It would be insane to release on Vita, there's what, 5.5 million Vitas in the West? There's probably close to twice that if you combine PS4/One, and they will keep adding to their install base unlike the Vita, which not even Sony will make games for.

 

[Deleted member 20920]

Like I said earlier, Sony tried to get them to do a Vita version but SE refused. Instead of going the logical way of at least doing a PS3 release they're now going to publish a 4 year old PSP port on new generation consoles without much in the way of visual upgrades.

If anything this whole plan might backfire on them as the game most definitely isn't up to console visual standards and not many will pay $400 to play it. They're doing a disservice to the FF fanbase which is largely existing on PS3 already.

I presume you were shown a video of the remaster?

 

[Shinta]

Like I said earlier, Sony tried to get them to do a Vita version but SE refused. Instead of going the logical way of at least doing a PS3 release they're now going to publish a 4 year old PSP port on new generation consoles without much in the way of visual upgrades.

If anything this whole plan might backfire on them as the game most definitely isn't up to console visual standards and not many will pay $400 to play it. They're doing a disservice to the FF fanbase which is largely existing on PS3 already.

Any FF fan will also miss XV without a PS4 or X1. Is that a disservice too? And Versus was announced for PS3, unlike Type-0.

 

[KtSlime]

Any FF fan will also miss XV without a PS4 or X1. Is that a disservice too? And Versus was announced for PS3, unlike Type-0.

I consider it to be, Versus was the deciding factor in my purchase of a PS3.

 

[Kagari]

I presume you were shown a video of the remaster?

They aren't showing it.

 

[Timu]

This came out of nowhere...gonna get the X1 version if I plan to buy it.