Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 8: Put mii in, coach

Farore's Wind is REALLY powerful now. Like, I almost killed Rosalina in the middle of the stage with it when she was at roughly 50%.

Still have no momentum coming out of it, though. It does seem to be at least a bit faster, at least.
 
The most recent one lists those six as the only "participating characters". This could mean that these are all of the non-secret newcomers, or all of the remaining newcomers. I think expecting more on top of them is setting yourself up for disappointment.

If you can, can you point me to the latest leak by the guy? Wanna see if he implied E3 participation or not.
 
Oh sorry, I forgot to add quotation marks around the word "interesting".

The vitriol and hatred going on around smashboards right now is absurd.
Melee vs. Brawl all over again eh?

Damn. I mean the game isn't even out yet. At least Brawl was allowed to be released before people took a massive dump on it.
 
Anyone tried running and then jumping into the air to see if your momentum carries over? That's one simple thing I want to know. Hinges hugely on whether Falcon (if in the game) will be any good again.
 
I'm really liking the additional swooshy effects on most moves now. They really stand out on things like Mario's fair and Samus's jab combo. Presumably an addition to help visibility for the 3DS version, but it looks great on Wii U as well.

Marth still speaks Japanese, it seems.

I was just about to comment on that. Might be temporary? I was assuming he'd be English now that Shadow Dragon and Awakening happened. I wouldn't mind him staying in Japanese, though, personally.
 
It's really hard to analyze how it plays because I just want to savor the moment of the only time I'll be able to play. But Little Mac is really fun to use.

They didn't have any coins at my Best Buy (I was told you pick it up with your pre-order), but they did have pin buttons.
 
just got back

WHAT A PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT IT'S BRAWL 2.0 BUT WORSE I DON'T EVEN WANT THE GAME ANYMORE PRE ORDER CANCELLED UGH I'LL BE PLAYING MELEE

just kidding! detailed impressions soon!
 
Looks like Little Mac is the new Ike from what I could tell. Went into a 4 on 4 with 2 macs and it was hell on earth. Mega Man is damn hard to use and it seems like villager could use some buffs in the attack area to make up for the gimmick set up thing they have. Tried the bowling ball shovel trick, character escapes as soon as I bury them basically. Hitbox was small as hell for the shovel move as well. Overall I think the physics and the speed for this game clash a bit for certain characters.
 
I was just about to comment on that. Might be temporary? I was assuming he'd be English now that Shadow Dragon and Awakening happened. I wouldn't mind him staying in Japanese, though, personally.

He still doesn't actually have an English VA, so I can see why that decision was made.
 
It looks fun, but I wish there was longer hitstun or more room for combos.

I don't give a crap about wavedashing or L-cancelling or anything like that, but I don't like how the characters essentially "reset" after most hits.

It's going to make close-quarters punching/fighting not as rewarding as it should be, and instead incentivize defensive, long-distance play again.
 
Melee vs. Brawl all over again eh?

Damn. I mean the game isn't even out yet. At least Brawl was allowed to be released before people took a massive dump on it.

With the benefit of hindsight people are really on guard, and it's no surprise when you belong to a community who places one game above the others (for legitimate reasons, no ad hominem attacks here).

Brawl's broader appeal resulted in a game that killed the way they played Melee, and the reaction to this one makes it sound like everyone wants to move on to the new content without losing their old playstyles... some of them are just going about expressing it the wrong way.
 
I'm pretty happy with the roster if the gematsu leaks are the only newcomers remaining. I can't say that chorus kids, shulk or chrom are anything special to me but there really aren't many characters I'd like to see at this point who haven't made it in already. In terms of characters that have some sort of chance, K Rool is the only character left I really care about. At this point it's all icing on the cake.
 
I was just about to comment on that. Might be temporary? I was assuming he'd be English now that Shadow Dragon and Awakening happened. I wouldn't mind him staying in Japanese, though, personally.

Same, in Awakening I always kept imagining him speaking with a really thick Japanese accent lol.
 
Is there any 3DS gameplay footage of Sonic at all? I can find plenty of Wii U gameplay, but I want to see what he looks like on the version I'm getting first.
Speaking of Sonic, it looks like he got really buffed in his K.O. ability. Every match I see Sonic basically wipes the floor with the other characters, either with his (still) OP final smash or with some really good killing blows.
 
OK just came back home. To be honest with the short amount of time you are given with the game it's really difficult to notice the subtle changes from brawl.

I mean just based on initial reaction, it seems right in between brawl and melee in terms of speed. Just how Sakurai had mentioned before. Plus the framerate is SMOOTH in person.

I played as Villager and honestly i had no idea what i was doing. Second match i just went with Marth. I dont know if it was just the wireless controller or not, but there was a some what noticeable input lag, might just be me.

Tried some Smash Run afterwards with Megaman. Really different character. Had a hard time getting use to him with the short time i had. Smash run seems cool, but was pretty boring playing with CPUS. Would be fun if had a chance to play with the people there

But yeah otherwise, overall it was nice spending like 10 min overall with the smash games lol. Really hard to discuss the finer details. Cant wait till it comes out though.
 
OK just came back home. To be honest with the short amount of time you are given with the game it's really difficult to notice the subtle changes from brawl.

I mean just based on initial reaction, it seems right in between brawl and melee in terms of speed. Just how Sakurai had mentioned before. Plus the framerate is SMOOTH in person.

I played as Villager and honestly i had no idea what i was doing. Second match i just went with Marth. I dont know if it was just the wireless controller or not, but there was a some what noticeable input lag, might just be me.

Tried some Smash Run afterwards with Megaman. Really different character. Had a hard time getting use to him with the short time i had. Smash run seems cool, but was pretty boring playing with CPUS. Would be fun if had a chance to play with the people there

But yeah otherwise, overall it was nice spending like 10 min overall with the smash games lol. Really hard to discuss the finer details. Cant wait till it comes out though.
It was probably the TV/monitor used. First party wireless controls don't lag.
 
Phone died for a few hours and when I come back people have been disingenuous about Brawl's 'success.' The reason. APEX has those numbers because that's the only real big tournament brawl players have. In AZ and Cali there are 90 - 150 man tournaments for melee and PM like monthly. In Phoenix we have weekly melee tournaments with 50-100 people at a university. This stuff has been goin on for years, brawl with exception to a few regions and yearly tournaments never really had those numbers regularly. So of course they go to Apex. So yeah, a handful a year will be good, but Melee and PM are year round.

Just feel like folks are being very disingenuous with those APEX numbers. I would say the community gave it a fair year-long shake, after 2 years the scene started dwindling dramatically.

I just think we need to find a balance so we can put Melee and PM to rest and play Smash 4 for five or six years, until smash 5 comes out.

1, No one is saying Brawl isn't shrinking now.
2. The Smash community is bigger now than it ever was. You can pull in more numbers of players now than ever before. Even still, Brawl pulled down similar (maybe a bit less ) numbers during its peak.
3. THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT. Brawl shrinking now isn't proof that the game isn't competitive. Which is how this whole argument started in the first place.

Now we're swimming around in numbers that no one seems to have. The numbers aren't the point. I just find your (and others) method of qualifying things about Brawl to be so cursory, spoken like an outsider looking in. You're saying things that no one directly involved in Brawl has said. Though, not surprisingly, you're saying things the Melee faithful have been saying for years.
 
Anyone tried running and then jumping into the air to see if your momentum carries over? That's one simple thing I want to know. Hinges hugely on whether Falcon (if in the game) will be any good again.

Maybe it's because it was Smash Run, but I saw a super speedy Luigi running and jumping and it seemed like it didn't.
 
With the benefit of hindsight people are really on guard, and it's no surprise when you belong to a community who places one game above the others (for legitimate reasons, no ad hominem attacks here).

Brawl's broader appeal resulted in a game that killed the way they played Melee, and the reaction to this one makes it sound like everyone wants to move on to the new content without losing their old playstyles... some of them are just going about expressing it the wrong way.
And those people can be stuck 20 something years in the past when the next Smash games comes out proclaiming Melee's perfection and claiming Melee is bringing more fans to the Smash community(It won't be).

And I will look upon those people as broken old men who cannot progress not masters of their craft like they want others to believe.
 
Really, the only newcomer I want at this point that hasn't been leaked is Chibi-Robo, but he was never going to happen anyways so whatever.

I just wish none of this leaked out in the first place, ugh. Newcomer reveals feel underwhelming because of it, because we knew they would be in the game anyways, but at least the trailers are always amazing and the gameplay is exciting, so it's not all bad!

I would love for there to be at least one newcomer that wasn't leaked but I'm not hopeful at all.

Also, potential Lucas cut sucks.

this post is probably mostly irrelevant. Sorry.
 
One of ProJared's videos from the show floor shows some new deets for Sonic. His Aerial Spin Dash moves in a weird fucking trajectory around the 2:13 point, doesn't look like it's going to be as viable for recovery as it used to be. It's fast though. Also Sonic has a new rather fast Down Smash reminiscent of Fox's split kick.

Figured I'd post since not a lot of people have been playing as Sonic.
 
Honestly I'm indifferent towards the physics of the game, as I enjoyed Brawl more than Melee.
That being said, I'm more interested in seeing the balancing. Will it be like Brawl's God-Tier Meta Knight? Or Melee's Fox?
 
Since I've got terrible internet connection, I've spending hours upon hours downloading the invitational so I can actually watch it in 720p, and I have to say, Pikachu's model looks sooooooooo good in motion. The new electrical effects are also really cool

I've been reading some interesting posts on smashboards.

Do share? :P

If gematsu leak means no dixie, please please don't be true.
 
Really, the only newcomer I want at this point that hasn't been leaked is Chibi-Robo, but he was never going to happen anyways so whatever.

I just wish none of this leaked out in the first place, ugh. Newcomer reveals feel underwhelming because of it, because we knew they would be in the game anyways, but at least the trailers are always amazing and the gameplay is exciting, so it's not all bad!

I would love for there to be at least one newcomer that wasn't leaked but I'm not hopeful at all.

Also, potential Lucas cut sucks.

this post is probably mostly irrelevant. Sorry.

im actually hping we get at least one more character that wasnt revealed i think it would be super sweet the trailers do make the characters hype but some of the surprise factor is lost :T also yeah lucas potentially being cut is a super bummer
 
Is there any 3DS gameplay footage of Sonic at all? I can find plenty of Wii U gameplay, but I want to see what he looks like on the version I'm getting first.
Speaking of Sonic, it looks like he got really buffed in his K.O. ability. Every match I see Sonic basically wipes the floor with the other characters, either with his (still) OP final smash or with some really good killing blows.

His dash attack got a great buff, and even his f-tilt KOs now.

So good.
 
im actually hping we get at least one more character that wasnt revealed i think it would be super sweet the trailers do make the characters hype but some of the surprise factor is lost :T also yeah lucas potentially being cut is a super bummer

Especially since Lucas played a lot better than Ness...
 
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