Beelzebufo
Banned
Now that we don't have character speculation anymore really, there's not much left to talk about.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 8: Put mii in, coach
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Now that we don't have character speculation anymore really, there's not much left to talk about.
Prism Tower with direct-feed sound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7hKzfGMdzM
Trying to remove some tension here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7hKzfGMdzM
Trying to remove some tension here.
The Great Gonzales
Member
Is the stale moves negation dramatically increased in this demo? Is it really a huge problem? Honestly, I barely ever noticed it in Brawl, but maybe that's because a lot of my KOs come from items lol
Yeah, I fear this is happening because the competitive sides feels like something HAS to happen and nothing is, mean while casuals are probably scared that the competitive side will influence too much or ruin the positive vibe.
I think this will only get worse as more competitive players start watching more videos and read more competitive player write ups. The game is sooo close to what we want, that it's becoming a big tease. We don't want to be stuck playing Melee and PM, but in our opinion a game is either good for competitive or it isn't.
sorakirosaki
Member
honestly people might be posting it because not everyone would get there news at the same time also i liked his overlook and i dont think its wrong if some people agree with him nor do i think its wrong if they disagree with them but come on dood getting worked up because some people found the read interesting seems a tad off. I get that you and a whole lot of people want the game to succeed and want the game to be fun but not everyone will see your views. I dont know to me personally it just seems everyone has similar and different opinions about the whole thing and it just seems it really wont end well in the long run. anyway if this gets your feathers ruffled i didnt mean for it to.
ShockingAlberto
Member
It's definitely something that will have to be gotten used to. My worry is mainly switching between the Wii U and 3DS versions.
The Great Gonzales
Member
Damn that stage is gorgeous.
I'm glad he was playing as Luigi. I haven't seen many people talking about him, and I want to know how my main is faring in Smash 4. Looks like his forward smash and back air are lethal as ever. Also, lol at the announcer calling him Weegee.
Rainbow Road Direct feed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbFJzUgD6_Q
Spirit Train Direct feed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW2ou2EXzTo
How do you guys enjoy the music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbFJzUgD6_Q
Spirit Train Direct feed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW2ou2EXzTo
How do you guys enjoy the music?
To be honest, Hungrybox didn't really persue him after a few attempts, and I took that as a mutual agreement to take it to sudden death. I would've chased his ass down.
sorakirosaki
Member
im hoping his kick spike taunt of death will be intact because it was amazing
also completely unrelated but i hope they keep ganondorfs down air stomp thing its not very good but man was it satisfying when it hit
honestly i think this is impossible to avoid with any game. I always get that feeling that the design choice of the designer will always clash with some people and work with others i think this is just to be expected in the arts and entertainment industry :T
I'm not sure what exactly you're refer to but there will be disagreements when any game comes out. There are ways to have a healthy arguement. There are some examples here and there are some examples of unhealthy arguments here as well.
Well it is a big issue.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Yup! Less landing lag is the new Ridley basically.
TheSlySoul
Member
Closer to launch I think. The Wii U will be pushing to hit 2014. I can imagine it getting pushed to Feb. 2015 luke Tropical Freeze.
Also, such toxic. I will be back when the roster is revealed to see how close I was...
Actually I've never complained if someone is stalling or edge-hogging me, because like I said, I don't mind someone doing whatever is necessary to win. I've won against people who edge-hog without doing it in return, though. Even though I consider it a legitimate tactic it would feel like a hollow victory to me. Just personal preference -- I still look forward to playing everyone regardless of their playstyle!
SliceSabre
Banned
I dont know about the casual side but if competitive scene wanted the casuals gone, when would the new talent come from? Also Melee totally didnt sell 7 million copies or anything.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
You mean like Persona and SMT? Pls Smash ain't like that.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Is this you?:
Miiverse is basically Smashboards, only they care about the roster instead of the physics.
sorakirosaki
Member
actually i wouldnt be surprised if every fan base just seeks to destroy one another i think it just boils down to having different passions and certainly very different views on what makes things fun. Personally i dont think its bad at all and people have been pretty respectful (tensions are rising a lot though).
Not75Drops
Member
Miiverse is basically Smashboards, only they care about the roster instead of the physics.
Goku, Shadow, Shrek and Steve (Minecraft). They're the main requests I see on Miiverse but Shrek supporters seem to be mostly trolling.
Competitive players want things that don't affect casuals enjoyment in a negative way.
Casual players don't want them to add things that would increase competitive players enjoyment.
I don't want the casual audience to be removed from smash but it sure feels like the other side either want us removed or just don't care either way.
sorakirosaki
Member
I am really excited for SSB. The mii fighters are just too good. i love playing games as my mii.
im actually pretty excited to try out the brawler and the gunner seems like they will be a lot of fun the sword user looks great too
I'm so disappointed that they didn't change his :/ if anyone deserved a new one, it was toon linkIn the Spirit Train video I just linked:
The over world remix is awesome and Toon Link's FS is seen at the end of the video.
I'll leave y'all to find out what it is.
SliceSabre
Banned
I view many of the things that some on the competitive side want to be in a poison to what makes Smash fun to me, a casual. Thusly they are attempting to destroy the Smash I know the love.
On the opposite side competitive believe that not changing things to what they want is an attempt to or will kill their scene.
Sometime I wish Melee never existed or wasn't so broken so that this argument never started in the first place.
theprodigy
Member
Interesting how you project your own beliefs onto others.
sorakirosaki
Member
to be fair there has been people wh played the game and their impressions have been mixed
to negative to positive (albeit mostly on the 3ds version)
i think every opinion is fair and to knock out discussion isnt really fair at all (or maybe im misunderstanding a bit)
in the end i think its up to everyone to make their own impressions ( im hoping that nintendo releases some kind of demo to give those people who didnt get to try it chance)
honestly thats not really a fair view at all granted i didnt really have fun with melee myself either almost lost a lot of friends because of it actually. But its not fair to say melee had suddenly caused smash to become bad. Competition will be in any game and i welcome it i think its always something good to have as well. My main gripe is when people are asking for a melee 2.0 or something to that degree when that just wont happen
If Smash 3DS was releasing soon instead of Oct. 3rd, I would seriously be considering getting it from the gameplay vids.
Other than the discussion about balance patches, what other suggestions could be considered poison for casual players?
There's that word, "broken".
Can you tell me which aspects of melee were broken that would suddenly make it a bad competitive game if they were removed?
I'm interested in hearing how much you actually know considering all the bullshit you spout, or if it's just going to be "oh noes wavedashing!".
Rynocirator
Member
It's so great how the announcer says Luigi
CaptainSchwann
Member
After playing a good 3 or 4 matches as little Mac (my best buy wasn't that crowded) I can say his recovery feels non existent.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Nope, just Pikachu guy
Then don't play with them? Smash is a game of options. I play with stock because time sucks.
What was broken about Melee? How did this negatively impact your enjoyment?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I think people need to take their time to breath and trying to discuss things more civil.
I think it's enough is enough with tensions because it's causing too much toxic feelings here, and I think people need to stop shitting on smashboard. It's their problem, not our place to talking about them since we are no better as them right now.
Calm down and take a breath then let discuss things throughly and calm please. Just for SmashGAFs' sakes.
I think it's enough is enough with tensions because it's causing too much toxic feelings here, and I think people need to stop shitting on smashboard. It's their problem, not our place to talking about them since we are no better as them right now.
Calm down and take a breath then let discuss things throughly and calm please. Just for SmashGAFs' sakes.
Karsticles
Member
Put down your Pikachus.
I don't really care about casual or competitive. I haven't wave-dashed or L-cancelled in my life...
I just thought that Brawl was sort of a slow, overly defensive game that didn't leave much room for movement options or strategy, and thus was boring to watch/play after a prolonged period of time.
I want ridiculous items, crazy assist characters, final smashes, etc., all in. I don't want to destroy casual smash.
I just don't want it to be boring again and I'm afraid it will be.
I just thought that Brawl was sort of a slow, overly defensive game that didn't leave much room for movement options or strategy, and thus was boring to watch/play after a prolonged period of time.
I want ridiculous items, crazy assist characters, final smashes, etc., all in. I don't want to destroy casual smash.
I just don't want it to be boring again and I'm afraid it will be.
I've got two dilemmas with Smash Bros 4.
1) Do I really need both versions? (I really want that answer to be yes, believe me).
2) If I only got one version, which to get? Wii U will look amazing and more traditional and comfortable to play. 3DS is portable and something of a novelty, with exclusive modes.
Hopefully Nintendo run a promotion for ordering both, which will ensure I get each.
1) Do I really need both versions? (I really want that answer to be yes, believe me).
2) If I only got one version, which to get? Wii U will look amazing and more traditional and comfortable to play. 3DS is portable and something of a novelty, with exclusive modes.
Hopefully Nintendo run a promotion for ordering both, which will ensure I get each.
SliceSabre
Banned
It seems that everything the competitive side wants changed is not an upgrade or anything like it, it is a regression. They want this to be Melee 2.0, in their heart of hearts they know that's want they really want because every suggestion comes from the melee angle or will make it play more like Melee. They do not want to learn a new game or discover new techs, they do not want Smash to progress onto the future. They want the game to play just like Melee except with new characters and stages.
Is Melee a regression because it was the second game in the series and this is the fourth?
sorakirosaki
Member
ummm no i think your looking at it wrong dood i think for a lot of them they know that they wont get a melee 2.0 nor have they asked for it :T. I think their complaints are as fair as anyones and getting riled up about it isnt going to do you any favors.
in some ways i always felt that sakurais mind set was to improve on something the work he had before
i presume hes worked on all 4 smash brothers and to him melee was his improvement to smash 64 but when the wii came out he wanted to change up what he had wether he himself deemed melee or even 64 as a faliure and tried out a new system. It seems smash 4 might be like that as well its him trying to improve what brawl was and to try and evolve it. But hey i dont know the guy and he just loves to troll everybody lol
I don't feel Rainbow Road's too much, but the others are great. Spirit Tracks overworld theme is amazing and this remix is quite nice, though I think I prefer the original.