He didn't play hero ball in the Olympics.
Lebron James' NBA Finals record is now 2-3, fails to 3-peat this year
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TemplaerDude
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I'm not a basketball fan by any stretch but I do enjoy a game here and there. People whine and moan about Lebron like he beat their mother's, but for crying out loud do the Spur's play a boring ass game.
CassidyIzABeast
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Melo want some patches too
Love Deterrence
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Randolph Freelander
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James had a good series, this isn't on him. Spurs were a better team.
Forceatowulf
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Exactly. Dude needs to get help. 2 HOF'ers and an Allstar ain't gonna cut it.
And another lock-out season too. That would help.
Why are the odds always so against him. ugh it's not fair.
Tragicomedy
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I am far from a Spurs fan, but that has to be the most objectively wrong opinion in this thread so far. The Spurs offense in this Finals was the LEAST boring we've seen in decades. Amazing passing, constant motion leading to mismatches, high pick-and-rolls, and an NBA record in shooting percentage. Basically, they went Harlem Globetrotters on the Heat. Entertaining as hell.
You're right about one thing: you aren't a basketball fan.
theignoramus
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You assume Melo's selfishness outweighs his desire to win. I dont think that's the case, otherwise he'd be staying in NY and continue to be the number one focus of the Knicks. Seeking out other superstars is a tacit admission from him that he cant win as a number one option.
Tragicomedy
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So basically what LeBron had to do to win?
cr_blah_blah
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Spurs boring? Are you watching a game from a decade ago? They're in the top of the league in scoring, assists, 3s, and fast break points. You're absolutely wrong.
Net_Wrecker
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This post fell through a wormhole from 2004.
IrishNinja
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does anybody who's actually played a sport run with cramp jokes? honest question
basic_element
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You don't have to tell me how good coop, bscott, and iron man are, I grew up watching them. But if you include them, you have to include guys like mike miller who shot lights out in the finals, and all time 3 pt shooting leader and future hof Ray Allen on your list for the heat. Even guys like Battier and Haslem were solid contributors. Just not this year.
Lebron was in a different situation. He had to leave....there was no way they could build the team he needed playing in Cleveland. Superstars aren't going to go there....even to play with Lebron. If he were in a market like Chicago, LA, New York...he wouldn't have had to leave.
Same thing happened to Kevin Garnett. No matter how great he was...superstars didn't want to play in Minnesota.
Tragicomedy
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I called him out for that, but in his defense the Spurs offense from even three seasons ago wasn't nearly this interesting. If you don't really watch the game and just repeat catch phrases you've heard over the years, that makes sense.
I used to find the Spurs offense predictable and boring. In it's current form, it's the most refreshing thing I've seen in the league in years.
I used to find the Spurs offense predictable and boring. In it's current form, it's the most refreshing thing I've seen in the league in years.
JesseEwiak
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I hear this from casual fans all the time. You have to realize, your average casual NBA fan doesn't watch the same game we do. They want to see stars, dunks, 3's, and not a whole lot of defense. What we see as impressive basketball, they see as boring.
Syphon Filter
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you know nothing about basketball
Tragicomedy
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And yet...the Cleveland roster looks a hell of a lot more promising in the near-future than Miami's does. All those #1 picks are adding up. LeBron should know, he was one of them.
Which they wouldn't have had if Lebron stayed there. You don't get #1 picks when you win...Cleveland still would've won....just not championships.
All those #1 picks are adding up...but not #pick talent. Kyrie Irving is the only one that's played anywhere near a lottery pick for them.
Epsilon-delta
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Spurs are great to watch. When they're on fire, it's simply amazing. I haven't seen a Finals where a team consistently shoots out the lights.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Kobe wins. We all win.
Melo's about to sign with Cleveland and bump LeBron, haha.
Melo would literally rather play 2nd fiddle then play for the Knicks
Nobody wants to play as the Knicks.
I like to shit on Bron as well, but this series wasn't completely on him. Team was looking all sorts of flabby and sick out there. Shit was looking like the Cavs for a min.
gutter_trash
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LeBron cursed himself when he disrespectfully stared down MJ in Round 1
respect goes a long way
respect goes a long way
Spurs ain't boring anymore. One of the best offensive teams we've seen in a long while. The incredible ball movement, the shot making, the unselfishness.
The Heat were the only boring team in this series. Wade fishing for fouls in the lane, Rashard Lewis and Bosh camping outside, worthless old role players like Battier and Birdman. Everything about them this series was ugly and dull.
Edit: San Antonio had the highest collective shooting percentage of any team in finals history since the shot clock era began.
The Heat were the only boring team in this series. Wade fishing for fouls in the lane, Rashard Lewis and Bosh camping outside, worthless old role players like Battier and Birdman. Everything about them this series was ugly and dull.
Edit: San Antonio had the highest collective shooting percentage of any team in finals history since the shot clock era began.
who honestly believes this anymore?
Spurs are the only team in basketball that's actually fun to watch. The ball movement, the chemistry, etc.
Garbage time scrubs had better ball movement than 90% of the teams in the league while playing their starters.
SlackAdjuster
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Oh please.
He could have made his decision and donated money to a charity without acting like a d-bag on national TV. There is a reason you've never seen that before him and will likely never see it again from anyone else.
IrishNinja
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say what? im not a huge basketball fan either but did you watch that offense? shit was so fluid those dudes look like they were water elementals
shit happened one time, years ago, and again went to charity. let it go.
it's like people on kobe's shit...why would i care what athletes do off the court? MJ's supposed to be a huge d-bag, does that take away from him being the GOAT now?
jakefromstatefarm
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That run they had in game 2 of the 2012 WCF is the prettiest basketball I've ever seen.
Warriors, Trail Blazers, Mavericks, Suns, Wizards; all those teams check those boxes.
Jordan would have lost with this Heat team to these Spurs
Jordan wouldn't won without Pippen, and later Rodman and Pippen.
Its like basketball is a team game or something. But the irrational LeBron hate is kind of funny. When they win, its cause of roleplayers hitting 3s. When they lose, its all on LeBron.
Jordan wouldn't won without Pippen, and later Rodman and Pippen.
Its like basketball is a team game or something. But the irrational LeBron hate is kind of funny. When they win, its cause of roleplayers hitting 3s. When they lose, its all on LeBron.
Wendel Clark
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notice how none of lebron's teammates are helping
Syphon Filter
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lebron coming to NY.
Bam Bam Baklava
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He'll never be Jordan. Just live with it.
Is that ONLY because of rings?
TheKaeptain
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He's going to Brooklyn.
Wendel Clark
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Birdman is on the heat
can't they just give lebron the east coast all star team? dude needs some help.
So Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Magic Johnson, Clyde Drexler, and Gary Payton don't count I take it.
SlackAdjuster
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Mike didnt really give people too much ammunition. What are ya gonna say bad about him? What can you rub in his face? That he couldnt hit a curveball? Lebron has given people PLENTY so he deserves the criticism that goes along with it. You're the one in the minority on that opinion and for good reason. It was an asshole move.
Even right now, tonight, and plenty of times previously, he could just simply say some cliche line like "Sure, I'd love to stay with the Heat" but noooooo he wants to drag out some soap opera bullshit. But hey, maybe he can turn Decision #2 into some more charity money this summer...cause thats what its reallllllly all about with him.
People always go on about his stats, but I think that's because people just don't bother to check MJ's stats. Even with that in mind, MJ is still better.
BadAss2961
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It was already over in my mind when he went to his super team and got beat by Dirk, but this should officially put an end to GOAT talk for LeBron... 2 Finals losses that he absolutely should've won, and needed to win to be considered the greatest ever.
Not only did he lose this one -- he was contained, his team was destroyed, and they were lucky they didn't get swept. This is the same 2-time defending champions, so any talk of there being no help is pretty ridiculous. lol
Not only did he lose this one -- he was contained, his team was destroyed, and they were lucky they didn't get swept. This is the same 2-time defending champions, so any talk of there being no help is pretty ridiculous. lol
jordan0386
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Bron will likely finish with 30k points 10k boards 10k assists.
There really ain't no worries or fucks to be given.
Everybody who dislikes now, will be telling their grandkids how unselfish he was on the court and they don't know real basketball when XYZ is doing is thing in 2024.
There really ain't no worries or fucks to be given.
Everybody who dislikes now, will be telling their grandkids how unselfish he was on the court and they don't know real basketball when XYZ is doing is thing in 2024.
Avon Barksdale
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A bunch of haters ITT.
IrishNinja
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this is more salt than my diet can handle, but if you actually think MJ and the other greats from that era would've come off as saints in this modern world of social media, you're kidding yourself.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Lebron fans trying to say he's the best on today of all days is like Republicans trying to defend going into Iraq in 2003 with the country in turmoil currently.
Just take your L and move on.
Just take your L and move on.
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