Audible Phonetics
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LOL seriously.
Several times enroute to the Finals Chicago was pushed to game 7's by the Knicks, Pistons, and Indiana.
Lebron James' NBA Finals record is now 2-3, fails to 3-peat this year
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LOL seriously.
Several times enroute to the Finals Chicago was pushed to game 7's by the Knicks, Pistons, and Indiana.
ShinobiFist
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Like Bosh had to deal with players like Mchale, Parish, Oakley, Ewing, McKey and Barkely.
I think if Lebron had gone to Dallas instead of Miami he would already have five rings.
Liquidsnake
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Lebron's game is not conducive to taking over. On a night where he should have had 50, he had 31.
Its just not in him.
Im not knocking him for the way he plays, hes just a different cat.
I don't think hes the best to ever play the game, and I don't think he will be regarded as such when this is all over.
Its just not in him.
Im not knocking him for the way he plays, hes just a different cat.
I don't think hes the best to ever play the game, and I don't think he will be regarded as such when this is all over.
Audible Phonetics
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So wade, Bosh are not good team mates now?
Spurs just won the chip with 2 players well out their prime, and one is exiting it. That is such a BS excuse it isn't even funny.
jordan0386
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Pistons weren't relevant after 91.
And MJ played one seven game series vs both Knicks and Pacers.
Can we stop pretending like the Bulls were ever in danger of losing after 91.
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I never said he wasn't better than Kerr. I said that they bot serve the same purpose of their teams and they are both very good at it. Wade wasn't all that great in this series, either.
See above.
I am not twisting anything. I am just showing that Kerr is an excellent shooter as well.
Pretty much
Epsilon-delta
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Allen made more 3pt in less games surpassing Reggie Miller. Kerr having a better percentage means little when he barely averaged 8.2 PPG.
Why would Bosh's PPG matter if Rodman would shut him and still grab 18 boards while hustling his but off the whole game? Rodman was Rodman because he neutralized PFs. He made the Mailman work his tail off for everything he got. Bosh's game isn't anywhere near as complete as Karl's.....Rodman would have a field day on a PF who could barely rebound and camped out on the perimeter all day.
Last I heard....defense wins championships.
Audible Phonetics
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No one said they were ever in danger. But acting like the road was easy in the east is silly. They faced way more HOF type players then Miami ever has since they've been together. The east is soft as Hell and you and I both know it.
Yeah I'd still take the Big O, even in terms of all around game. And maybe even Elgin Baylor. I mean think if these players had been around after the 3-pointer came into play.
You were still confusing those two things.
His point was about percentage, not how many he made, and not who was the best of all time.
how'd that next season go for them?
ShinobiFist
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The Knicks had a fucking squad and great season in 92. Stop acting like there was no teams that had massive talent in 92.
It's all rather relative. Lebron needs points. Rodman is not going to win a battle with Tim Duncan anyway. Wade is probably the worst defensive starter on the Heat, but Bosh's 3-ball kept them in the game many times.
jordan0386
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If its consensus that they'd probably have gone to eight straight finals. You can't sell me on superior comp.
MJ didn't have to guard any perimeter player who could go left. For a whole decade.
Lets stop waxing poetic.
Audible Phonetics
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To keep things subjective. The road to the Finals in the east was WAY easier for Miami in comparison to the Bulls.
While it is a great accomplishment they've gone to 4 straight finals, in this weak ass east they better with that line up.
If Jordan let Drexler goes off like what Kwahi maybe they would actually in danger, just saying..
Also if he not average 40ppg against the Suns..
Epsilon-delta
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So going up against Barkley and the Suns in the Finals, (in which the Suns had a better record), and Jordan averaging 41 PPG in the Finals means nothing? Dropping 55 on Barkley in Game 4 when Barkley had 32 points himself and the Bulls winning just by 6 points is pretending to be in danger?
Jordan scoring all the Bulls points in the fourth quarter in Game 6 except for Paxson making the game winning 3 and winning by 1 is pretending?
You're showing your age young buck.
Audible Phonetics
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LOL this dude..so no one used their left hand to drive in the 90's. Magic didn't have a left hand?
Man I'm done I give up. These Lebron stans on full defend mode.
Bosh has been great for the Heat these past 2 years.
People are being stupid when it comes to Lebron as usual. The Heat as constructed were always a flawed team. They never had a center or PG but were able to make up for it with the big 3s athleticism. There are not many teams that could make them pay for those deficiencies. The Spurs are just a matchup nightmare for the Heat. That plus the fact that the team is gassed as fuck after 4 straight finals and it is the perfect storm for a blowout.
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-tetsuo-
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It means a lot since he is not the first, second or even 3rd scoring option on the team. He is going to take less shots so the higher his percentage, the better.
Epsilon-delta
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I give up myself. Salty fans being emotionally involved in it and all.
Oh well.
Well, "good" is generally considered a relative term. Are they good compared to the average player? Yes. Are they as good as they used to be? Clearly not. Are they good enough to assist LeBron in winning a championship? It appears not any more.
But mostly you misinterpret my statement by assuming Wade and Bosh are LeBron's only teammates- that's the problem. The Spurs run 8-9 deep and the Heat run 3 deep.
Also you incorrectly assume I'm a LeBron fan.
jordan0386
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The Finals should be hard to win. You are playing the best from the west.
However, Bulls did whatever they wanted to the East. For six years.
MJ swept Penny and Shaq to get to a Finals.
Stop going crazy about the past. The east was fodder for the Bulls.
Liquidsnake
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If I were Bosh, I would leave Miami.
They don't appreciate him, and they under utilize him. I hate that he thinks hes a 3 point specialist now.
Maybe he doesnt have enough left in the tank to bang down low anymore, I don't know.
They don't appreciate him, and they under utilize him. I hate that he thinks hes a 3 point specialist now.
Maybe he doesnt have enough left in the tank to bang down low anymore, I don't know.
Ninja Scooter
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I think he likes that to be honest. There was an article a few days back about how he loves being in Miami and being low key. He seems to have that kind of personality.
Audible Phonetics
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The fuq am I reading?
Spurs did not beat the Heat taking advantage of any of their deficiencies, height or lack of PG. Matter fact Tony Parker played well average.
This year Wade was rested FOR the Playoffs. HE didn't show up.
Spurs were simply the superior team at EVERY position aside from SF, and even then Leonard's contribution's can be debated vs lebrons
Epsilon-delta
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The Knicks and the Pacers were fodder back then? I've heard it all now.
jordan0386
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The Bulls were never down 2-0 3-1 or 3-2.
Where is this greater competition?
Where is this greater competition?
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Liquidsnake
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The kind where he can be a number 3 ?
I guess I understand if that's his preference. What happened to the real Alpha dogs of this league man!
Audible Phonetics
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This team was GOOD enough to get to 4 finals. To even allude to the fact Lebron needs more seems flawed.
Look at the production this series outside of lebron.
Ninja Scooter
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lol That's not what I meant
Epsilon-delta
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So a team is only great if the Bulls were down games? It can't be that the Bulls just elevated their game in the playoffs and just beat them?
Keep moving the goalpost.
I don't see any team besides prime Spurs being able to hang with the Rockets after 94.
jordan0386
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I never said all those 50 win teams are not great.
I'm saying Mike beat them every fucking year. The comp can't be that much greater than now, if nobody every got one on him.
Penny and Shaq are the only team to get a win off the Bulls in 7 playoff runs.
Think about all the teams in the 90s. And the Magic are the only ones who beat them. The 90s are not that much better than no other era.
Stop it...Jordan didn't toy with Reggie Miller. Ever.
You need to stop pretending the competition wasn't better because of what the Bulls did.
jordan0386
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They've only played one playoff series vs each other and MJ won.
MJ vs Reggie is not some great all time rivalry.
BadAss2961
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This.
Epsilon-delta
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So you only see one outcome in your tunnel vision. Comp must've been shit if no one didn't knock the Bulls out of the playoffs.
You can't even entertain the idea that maybe MJ was that damn great and the most competitive SOB to play basketball.
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