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Deified Data
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Currently in Chapter 2 - there's a few quests that are giving me trouble.
First is the one with the old man who wants you to retrieve his family ring from the sewer. I found it but the old man is nowhere to be seen after that. I've tried revisiting the entrance to the sewers every time of the day to no avail.
Second is the quest where you're supposed to investigate the warehouse at midnight. I've gone there and the door is locked.
Third is the spider key you find on the dead knight in the sewers. A note on his body says it goes to some gate in the sewers but I couldn't find it.
First is the one with the old man who wants you to retrieve his family ring from the sewer. I found it but the old man is nowhere to be seen after that. I've tried revisiting the entrance to the sewers every time of the day to no avail.
Second is the quest where you're supposed to investigate the warehouse at midnight. I've gone there and the door is locked.
Third is the spider key you find on the dead knight in the sewers. A note on his body says it goes to some gate in the sewers but I couldn't find it.
It's been a long time since I completed The Witcher so my memory might play a trick on me.
You need to use Aard on some loose brick walls in the sewer to gain access to the gate that lead to the Spider Cultist's gate.
Drake
Member
The first game is good it's no where near as good as the Witcher 2. It took me something like 8 or 9 months to beat that game. I'd play it for a week or 2 then wouldn't play it for 2 or 3 months. It has some decent length to it, I got over 40 hours of game play on one play through.
Also, igni is ridiculously OP. Max that along with your vigor and you'll pretty much destroy anything.
Also, igni is ridiculously OP. Max that along with your vigor and you'll pretty much destroy anything.
Yeah seriously, the whole climax is bloody amazing from a story point of view. So damn good that it even made
that sword is for monsters line
Honestly, I was kind of underwhelmed by the ending.
Or am I missing something?
I understood that Alvin was most likely a time traveler, but since Aldersberg (Alvin) didn't really play any major role until the end (at least in how I played the game) it just didn't seem all that dramatic.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
Im totally stuck in chapter 3, during the fight with the hierophant and some monsters. I've tried that fight over a dozen times now, using potions and whetstones and everything. I even went so far as to download the difficulty potions mod to change my difficulty down to easy but i don't think that worked.
I can't keep playing this and being annoyed by it. It sucks to give up on a game that im 20 hours into already but I've died so many times at this point that its becoming a waste of time.
I can't keep playing this and being annoyed by it. It sucks to give up on a game that im 20 hours into already but I've died so many times at this point that its becoming a waste of time.
Like the Druid circle Hierophant? I didn't even know you could fight him.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
no, it's the fight in the swamp against some salamandra fools where he helps you out. Shits impossible. I then tried to just raid their camp instead but that ended just as poorly. sigh.
I still like the first one a little bit better than W2.. it's more unique (not your typical medieval england surrounding but more unique slavic), then i did enjoyed the combat system, the RPG system is better in this one and what's more important - the atmosphere and OST are far better than in W2 (which is still a great game, still the best RPG in the last 5 years)..
So i'm glad that W3 is taking some inspirations from the first one when it comes to quests - i really like hunting monsters - to the music and atmosphere and more slavic culture
So i'm glad that W3 is taking some inspirations from the first one when it comes to quests - i really like hunting monsters - to the music and atmosphere and more slavic culture
Dries
Member
So how to install the Texturen Mod? The creator also has all these Bloodpatch versions it seems. Is this just the basic Texturen mod but with better blood?
And how does this work in combination with the Hi-res character model mod? Do I have to install both of these mods in a specific order?
Just finished this recently as well.
There are definitely a few boring parts (swamp, village near lake) but when it gets good it gets really good.
The story first got interesting around the trade quarter. I actually started to really like Geralt because the choices I made he accepted as his personality.
The combat was...frustrating. Sometimes i felt group style was the only way to go since the crit chance seems to be a lot higher. And some of the enemies in late game almost made me lose my patience. Even with the best armor it felt like I died in just a few seconds sometimes.
And holy shit, pain is THE WORST STATUS EFFECT ever. Really, you get stunned for like five seconds while the enemies slaughter you? so unfair.
Just started Witcher 2. This one seems much more up my alley. All the mechanics are a lot tighter.
There are definitely a few boring parts (swamp, village near lake) but when it gets good it gets really good.
The story first got interesting around the trade quarter. I actually started to really like Geralt because the choices I made he accepted as his personality.
The combat was...frustrating. Sometimes i felt group style was the only way to go since the crit chance seems to be a lot higher. And some of the enemies in late game almost made me lose my patience. Even with the best armor it felt like I died in just a few seconds sometimes.
And holy shit, pain is THE WORST STATUS EFFECT ever. Really, you get stunned for like five seconds while the enemies slaughter you? so unfair.
Just started Witcher 2. This one seems much more up my alley. All the mechanics are a lot tighter.
Deified Data
Banned
Just finished this tonight, by the way. Thought I'd leave my final impressions.
Overall a solid 8.5/10, might play again someday to see how events unfold differently. Actually, couple more questions:
- I ended up siding with the Order. The nonhumans versus order storyline was a lot like the mages versus templars storyline of Dragon Age II - you're supposed to be able to root for the underdog but the vile lengths they go to prevent you from ever doing so. If the elves can think of no better way to improve their lot than killing innocents, perhaps it's best that they leave in the end.
- I never actually got sick of the combat, and enjoyed it pretty much the whole way through. I probabl would have enjoyed it less if it was a nonstop clickfest but it required just enough input to keep your attention.
- I never did figure out how to carve runes onto my silver sword.
- I'd say all in all I completed about 90% of the game's quests. I started ignoring most of the hunting quests near the end unless I was specifically about to kill a lot of that particular monster. The quests were generally well-designed, but there was a bit more running back and forth than I'd have liked.
- By far the worst element of the game was how hard it was to find certain characters or events, especially if the quest journal doesn't tell you what time of day to find them. Ramsmeat was especially annoying.
- Goddamn if this was the single most sexist game I've ever played. I'm usually not sensitive to that sort of thing but maybe my time on GAF has made me more susceptible to it. Women were constantly being portrayed as either sex objects, as being manipulative, or just being something "other". Looking back on the Reverend's speech about women being the source of all evil, in retrospect it's hard to shake the feeling that maybe the writer was sympathetic to that worldview. Again, this doesn't automatically brand the game as being lesser in my eyes, but it was definitely egregious. There weren't really any respectable female characters in this game, except for maybe Carmen or Triss.
- Trudging through the swamps got old. Made even worse by the fact that you had to return there, and then you have to explore a whole new swampy area. What's with all the swamps?!
Overall a solid 8.5/10, might play again someday to see how events unfold differently. Actually, couple more questions:
- Are any of the bonus chapters worth playing?
- Alvin's storyline never got resolved. Did I miss something, or am I right in following the game's hint that
Fucking crazy if true.he somehow traveled back in time and became De Aldersberg?
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Nice dude! Glad you actually enjoyed it! I actually also loved the combat, especially since I put all my points into Igni which made it hilarious.
Regarding your questions, not really if I remember right the bonus chapters don't even have voice acting in them and are just bonus sidestories and I don't believe they have any impact on anything.
As for your second question
yeah Alvin is basically De Aldesberg and the implications of that are crazy, in fact the whole ending is absolutely insane and awesome
Just one question for you did you get chills during the finale when Geralt says
"They're both for monsters"
Z..
Member
Gameplay in the TW1 is absurdly bad. It can most certainly be enjoyed for it's other features, but consider yourself warned.
Horrible, horrible combat. The absolute worst I've ever experienced.
Edit: Oh, I see you've already finished it. Well, dive into #2, that's where the greatness starts.
Horrible, horrible combat. The absolute worst I've ever experienced.
Edit: Oh, I see you've already finished it. Well, dive into #2, that's where the greatness starts.
Deified Data
Banned
I also put all my points into Igni at the expense of just about everything else. I put a couple into Aard to beat the Beast but other than that it was all Igni all the time. I would have liked to get the ability that made the group special attack cause incineration but unfortunately never got the chance.
So yeah, the ending is pretty crazy then.
So basically Alvin was shaped into being a hater of nonhumans due to the events of Murky Waters? If I had sided with the nonhumans would that have reflected in de Aldersberg's stances later on, or would it all be the same?
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Haha yeah Igni is absolutely destructive by the end, I swear it's just a mini nuclear bomb, especially in the final area
I don't think it changes anything honestly because I think the non choice events are what dictates alvins ascent to being the evil man he becomes. He seems to imply that he hated Geralt later on in life, since he talks about how he's "always preaching" or something, so probably he becomes an evil dude regardless
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Alvin's reasons for his dislike of non humans stems from whatever you tell him as a child as well as prejudice he always carried (his dialogue for what he thinks of nonhumans changes in regards to what you tell him). Ultimately he was driven mostly by what he feared in his dreams more than anything else which is his major motivator everything else was just extra personal baggage. So basically he would have reached that point eventually one way or another
KinoTheMystic
Neo Member
The Witcher 1 is so amazing. I couldnt stop playing it and I clocked in 60 hours when I finished it (but maybe ~50-60, since I tried it before). The first time I played the game, I uninstalled it because I never got into it. Then I tried it for a second time, because I really wanted The Witcher 3 and there is no way in hell I'm playing a franchise starting at the end.
It was an amazing experience. I actually liked the combat, and gaining the additional hits for each weapon stance because the combat animations were amazing (animations in cutscenes however...well..you know).
If anyone wants to start getting into The Witcher, start from the first game! Yes, The Witcher 2 is beautiful and has better gameplay mechanics, but the game is all about the story and character development.
It was an amazing experience. I actually liked the combat, and gaining the additional hits for each weapon stance because the combat animations were amazing (animations in cutscenes however...well..you know).
If anyone wants to start getting into The Witcher, start from the first game! Yes, The Witcher 2 is beautiful and has better gameplay mechanics, but the game is all about the story and character development.
In terms of role playing, The WItcher is awesome. It also helps with combat. Put yourself in Geralt's shoes. You need to think about combat, learn what you can about all of the monsters, meditate, drink your potions, and then go out and kick some ass. It's not really a hack and slash game. This is a detective game. If you take that approach I think you'll really love it.
oh yeah - protip: make sure you're using the correct sword - silver for monsters and steel for humans. I got stuck on that for a bit in the swamp and nearly lost my mind until i realized my mistake.
oh yeah - protip: make sure you're using the correct sword - silver for monsters and steel for humans. I got stuck on that for a bit in the swamp and nearly lost my mind until i realized my mistake.
Bedameister
Member
yep. I never got past that point. But even before I somehow didn't like the game. Really loved 2 though
Turin Turambar
Member
Chapter 2 and 3 were the highlight of the game.
John Kowalski
Banned
You expect better of the human scum? Honest killings are the lesser evil.
A Serious Man
Member
I just finished TW2 myself. I bought it at launch but the game stuttered so bad it was unplayable and I just sort of forgot about it. TW3 hype got me to pick it up again (by now a fix for the stuttering is out there) and I burned through it over the past couple weeks.
The combat is merely "acceptable" but the writing is some of the best I've ever seen in a game and I find the world and lore to be really engaging. It's definitely one of the best RPG's I've played over the last several years and I'm having a hard time accepting that I have to wait another eight months to get my hands on TW3.
The combat is merely "acceptable" but the writing is some of the best I've ever seen in a game and I find the world and lore to be really engaging. It's definitely one of the best RPG's I've played over the last several years and I'm having a hard time accepting that I have to wait another eight months to get my hands on TW3.
John Kowalski
Banned
If this is directed to me, no, i think the opposite.
And I played through most of the game in 2007 before any balancing patches and all the redesigning they did... I still enjoyed it, but The Witcher in its original released state was wildly overrated by the gaming press. And even after the Enhanced Edition people can still describe the gameplay as "absurdly bad".
Tell the truth, you did that shit because Siegfried is the bro-est bro in the game.
But you know there was a
neutral option right? It's more or less treated as the canon one because Witchers don't like getting caught up in political bullshit.
This has basically been my opinion of the series. In terms of RPG storytelling The Witcher games are some of the best out there, with other features merely being "good enough" (thought TW2's graphics were pretty much top-of-the-line in 2011 and I really like its art direction). Though I will say I got really involved in TW1's crafting system, and I like the feeling of having to research and prepare for each monster battle.
Complistic
Member
Neutral is the way to go. All true witchers know this. We don't take sides in politics.
Deified Data
Banned
Had no idea there was a neutral side. Do you get it by refusing to help the Order in Murky Waters? Because there were a ton of situation where they didn't give me a neutral option, it was either side with the elves or the order.
If I recall correctly yes. The bank robbery locks you from allying with whatever side you pissed off there and chapter 4 is a choice between being neutral and and the faction supported in the bank.
Always felt the lack of neutral "fuck you all I'm going home" choice in those situations was contrived and forced on the player.
Dries
Member
So is there anyone who sided with the
at the finale of Chapter 1? To me,
seemed like the one to believe. Her side of the story and explanation of the
motives just seemed to click more with me..
But then again.. that
Damn. Worst thing is, we'll never get to know the real truth.
villagers
Abigail
villagers
But then again.. that
doll in her house.......
Deified Data
Banned
That's one of those choices I'd have a hard time making, but when Abigail plied me with sex I had an inkling that maybe she was in the wrong, but that ultimately proved to be unfounded.
I played for about an hour and it seemed there was no way to play with a 360 gamepad so it was just KB and mouse (I didn't look for mods tho). The combat felt extremely clunky and just about unplayable. I'll probably just watch a lets play to get the story ahead of Wild Hunt. Still super pumped for Wild Hunt.
ISee
Member
Yeah that is really strange. I reinstalled w2 just yesterday and was able to go through the settings etc. with my xone controller but when the game started it stoped working. Only way to play is with K&M. But I think I was able to play with the 360 controller back then...
The Witcher 1 was a real chore to play through. Tons of fetch quests, the worst combat system I've encountered in an RPG, dated graphics (well ok, it's an older game), archaic level design: copy&paste corridors in very linear fashion and usually some knee-high or just simply invisible walls blocking your way for no reason. At least the story was somewhat good and I liked the music, but the whole game was a huge disappointment to me after hearing so much good about it.
Hopefully The Witcher 2 is better, will actually try it out today.
Hopefully The Witcher 2 is better, will actually try it out today.
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