Giant Bomb #8 | It's a Hit!
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There are now even more tweets and more calling out. Not about the two women who podcasted and started receiving abuse for thoughtful and considered criticism, but about herself and her experience.
What happened this morning on the mods account?
This is also a giant bomb community and the ferver of discussion regarding the new hires has almost crossed the line.
This is also a giant bomb community and the ferver of discussion regarding the new hires has almost crossed the line.
Jimmyfenix
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I just wanted to know what falserelic did after he visited the strip club.
NumberThree
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I wish that Kat Bailey "Castlevania LOS2" article didn't weight so heavily on me. She was absolutely fantastic at 1up. I honestly can't remember if she was good in front of a camera.
I miss the 1up show.
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only the giant bomb community can turn the simple hiring of two well qualified staff members into the grand struggle for videogames equal opportunity.
this shit is so stupid.
this shit is so stupid.
I wonder how many people applied for that job. To me Giant Bomb (my favourite video games site) always seems like this tiny company that's more like a family business compared to juggernauts such as IGN and Kotaku. But making a living out of video game writing is tough, so I guess you'd try to get a job wherever you can.
Check out the E3 2011(10?) day 2 podcasts.
I felt embarassed for Leigh on those shows. But I felt embarassed for everybody in the room when Greg stripped off his shirt and generally acted like a giant ass even knocking off beer cans deliberately for no reason whatsoever. Leigh said some dumb things but nothing comes close to that level of buffoonery. If a women did anything close to that stuff they would literally probably have to shut down the live stream to sort things out before returning to the broadcast.
Activision renting out the Staples Center. 775 million was the number Leigh Alexander threw out during her Bombcast appearance.
Everyone. And more directly so than people here. Not that what's happened here is great.
So I've looked into what's going on, somewhat. I guess there are people complaining about not being hired, and then people harassing the ones complaining? While I understand the complaints and discussions, some of the stuff being said is a bit ridiculous. Of course the people harassing others are way out of bounds, no matter what is being said.
The whole thing just seems like a bad situation.
Didn't she cast the first stone? All this is crazy simply because the Internet feels the wrong people were hired.
Potted history.
People were mostly laughing about her drunken antics - lots of us found them amusing - then she accused the people commenting of being sexist, that a drunk man would never get flack.
So of course a number of idiots started making vile insults. They are usually the same people and just look for any excuse.
Leigh hit back, lumping the whole "community" together with the idiots and said something along the lines of the GB staff should come down hard on them - which they did on their own forums - but the biggest trouble makers do it over twitter.
Then Ryan "accidentley" leaked a screen shot of an IM conversation (think it was with Dave) calling her a psycho.
She has been taking jabs at GB ever since. I thought she was over it after getting friendly with Patrick but I guess not.
People were mostly laughing about her drunken antics - lots of us found them amusing - then she accused the people commenting of being sexist, that a drunk man would never get flack.
So of course a number of idiots started making vile insults. They are usually the same people and just look for any excuse.
Leigh hit back, lumping the whole "community" together with the idiots and said something along the lines of the GB staff should come down hard on them - which they did on their own forums - but the biggest trouble makers do it over twitter.
Then Ryan "accidentley" leaked a screen shot of an IM conversation (think it was with Dave) calling her a psycho.
She has been taking jabs at GB ever since. I thought she was over it after getting friendly with Patrick but I guess not.
I don't agree with Kat about the Castlevania 2 piece but that doesn't stop me from liking her in general. Nobody bats 1.00.
agreed... also being drunk on a podcast where everyone is drunk shouldn't get that kinda shit regardles... but it seems over the years she keeps poking people with it, when it should have been let go long time ago
Feel so bad for the GB team on this. I do not believe in tokenism or positive-discrimination (or whatever) in the SLIGHTEST. I have a ton of respect for them and don't for one second believe they wouldn't hire a woman if the right one came along. I think equality is key, and acting as though two white male hires are, like, AUTOMATICALLY not striving for equality is a twisted view of what that word means.
And as much as I want to say this lady is making a non-issue into a problem, I now feel like I can't because frankly her entire social media presence is probably going to be miserable enough as is. I don't want to join the pile. I feel both annoyed and sympathetic towards here.
And as much as I want to say this lady is making a non-issue into a problem, I now feel like I can't because frankly her entire social media presence is probably going to be miserable enough as is. I don't want to join the pile. I feel both annoyed and sympathetic towards here.
I remember saying at the time I thought Greg acted worse than Leigh did.
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Deadly Joker
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"getting back to work. literally everything i write is more interesting than everything most of the gb staff does. bye haters"
Totally, they can't all be winners.
But that one was just...well whatever, she has a glistening portfolio, but I believe she's currently in the UK, so I doubt she would have worked either.
Well then.
Jimmyfenix
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Yes i believe she writes for The Guardian i believe. I have zero problem with her work.
Edit Woah
Maybe Giant Bomb should have requested a binder full of women.
Do people hold GB at a higher standard that they're getting so much flack for this? Or was this just a long time coming for the industry?
Anyone recall the last time there was so much discussion over new hirings in the industry?
So much drama over one of my favorite sites, I wished the people hurling insults/harassment would just calm down.
Anyone recall the last time there was so much discussion over new hirings in the industry?
So much drama over one of my favorite sites, I wished the people hurling insults/harassment would just calm down.
I think part of the problem is that the GB community has latched onto 775 and won't let go. It's easy to understand why someone would take that as a constant attack, as I doubt she looks back on her appearance fondly. I certainly know that I wouldn't want a host of people constantly bringing up my embarrassing moments.
I get the sense that when that number pops up that the GB staff is kind of embarrassed and want to get past it, but I could easily be reading too much into things.
Keyser Soze
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Leigh Alexander makes an interesting point about something, then tweets "anything I write is better than anything the Giant bomb staff does" then deletes.
No idea what compels people to lash out like that,
No idea what compels people to lash out like that,
Jimmyfenix
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Cara has done some good work on Eurogamer. I wouldn't be surprised if they pick her up. Eurogamer is good at what it does.
insecurity and immaturity
I don't understand it at all. Patrick is pretty much the only one to broach social issues, the rest of the crew barely touches any of it. Hell, Vinny says a ton of stuff on the podcast that could be taken extremely wrong by the Twitter crowd.
Zoe seems like she has a lot she wants to do which requires her to be away from a desk a lot. That's cool, but I working at a company that would keep her tethered down doesn't seem like the best fit for her or said company.
Anger. Frustration. It happens to us all.
As Rorie pointed out on Twitter, much of the abuse is probably coming from Reddit right now: http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/29kirc/video_game_review_site_giant_bomb_hired_a_cis/
How does making the tweet remarks and deleting them help the situation.. if she didnt make those every so often.. people would have let it be by now I think it was a long ago.
She's intentionally riling people up now, like some sort of psycho vicious circle.. and I have enjoyed her appearances in shut up and sit down.. but man..
That's just ridiculous, and I understand where some of the backlash comes from on the part of the community. Some of the things being said about Giant Bomb are ludicrous. That said, the best thing is to just ignore them altogether. If someone wants to throw a fit and act immature, the answer is not to harass and act in kind. Just let it go.
Anyway, that's just the way I see it.
ok so thats pretty shitty on her part, but again, that doesn't give a bunch of giantbomb fans the right to attack her in giantbomb's honor
i hope jeff calls these people out on a stream or something
It's both.
I'm really happy that Jeff spoke up, but given what I've heard about some particularly gross things being said on Twitter/the forums, I'd like to see more than just a vague tweet. There are parts of the Giant Bomb community that have always been pretty bad and this is as good a time as any for cutting them off.
EDIT: That Reddit link gets into some of what I was talking about, ugh.
MiniBossBattle
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I still want to know what characters Jason mains in Street Fighter. This will fill in my prejudices of what kind of gamer he is.
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