Not really. If anything it's showing that the issue isn't with homosexual sex but rather with the lack of women (or abundance of men) is what people don't like.
Does finding the act of gay sex repulsive, make you prejudiced?
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Not really. If anything it's showing that the issue isn't with homosexual sex but rather with the lack of women (or abundance of men) is what people don't like.
YesNOnoNOYes
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truth bombs o7
sounds like he isn't gay. or atleast asexual
Hahaha you can't handle seeing dudes kiss? Yeah, I think that's weird.
Or, it is because I'm attracted to women and not to men. Sexual interactions between 2 people I am not attracted to is "repulsive". Has nothing to do with homophobia.
Moff
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I never said everyone needs to like watching guys sucking dicks, quite the opposite actually.
Hours Left
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The topic title is a bit leading here, and repulsive is a pretty strong word. It feels like one of those "as long as it's not shoved in our faces" type things. (Which in case you didn't know, is an extremely offensive thing to say.)
Anyway, if you find the act of two men or two women making love upsetting simply because of their gender, then yes, you are prejudiced. If it's the actual act of different sexual practices you find unappealing, then no. That's just personal taste.
This is not an excuse for comments like "seeing such and such do X together makes me want to throw up", etc. These type of comments are not okay.
Anyway, if you find the act of two men or two women making love upsetting simply because of their gender, then yes, you are prejudiced. If it's the actual act of different sexual practices you find unappealing, then no. That's just personal taste.
This is not an excuse for comments like "seeing such and such do X together makes me want to throw up", etc. These type of comments are not okay.
Monocle
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hours went ahead put what i want to say into words. i'm bad with words.
still find it humorous that 2 guys kissing makes peoples skin crawl though. like i don't have to deal with heterosexual couples kissing all the time, smh
afternoon delight
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Get drunk with some gay men and ask them to describe what a vagina looks like to them. Dudes are fierce.
MarkMclovin
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How is it homophobia when a straigt guy can bang one out to 2 girls making out, but find it gross when 2 men do?
I'm not homophobic in the slightest, but I'm sure as shit gonna crack one off to a few girls scissoring over a few guys, umm, docking/cottaging or whatever else guys do. I certainly won't be repulsed by it either.
Because gay or not, sex is on my mind: 70 to 80% of the Day. I'm not complaining, but it can be quite exhausting sometimes.
travisbickle
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Only on page 1 and already a lot of people comparing gay sex to fetish.
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YesNOnoNOYes
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yeah, that bit really strikes me as a bit odd, too. its just two mouths kissing, showing affection. but if its two dudes' mouths = skin crawl.
weird, that.
and yeah, as if we dont have heterosexual couples showing public intimate moments everywhere in every genres. as if homo mouths have no places to be kissing in public spaces cuz ick. etc.
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SliceSabre
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I don't get why people have to label it as prejudiced at all. Why does it have to have a label?
I think the bigger issue is that prejudiced is a word viewed negatively. So say you may be a person who has not a problem with gays whatsoever and even openly supports gays, but you do not like watching two gays have sex.
The way it is placed in the context of this conversative implies that you are prejudiced against gays and thusly you are a bad person.
I think the bigger issue is that prejudiced is a word viewed negatively. So say you may be a person who has not a problem with gays whatsoever and even openly supports gays, but you do not like watching two gays have sex.
The way it is placed in the context of this conversative implies that you are prejudiced against gays and thusly you are a bad person.
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well if you consider heterosexual sex a fetish, too, I dont see why that would be so wrong. at least in my experience losing/aquiring a fetish is about as impossible as changing your sexual orientation.
there are also people who have given up on sex with other people completely and just indulge in their fetish.
so maybe sexual orientation is just kind of a fetish, too.
Monocle
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Haha, that's some pretty wild stuff compared to vanilla gay sex. It's not all about fisting and poo eating you know.
Oral and anal are the two most common sexual activities if I remember the statistics, and as you've probably guessed already, straight couples vastly outnumber us in both simply because the world has a lot more sexually active straight people than gay people.
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Why is it gross to you though? What is gross about two men kissing?
I don't find a man and a women kissing gross, or two women kissing gross. Just because I am not aroused by it, doesn't mean it's something I'm adverse to seeing.
The reality is, anyone saying stuff like, "I don't care what you do, I just don't want to see it", in regards to gay signs of affection are in fact imposing their prejudice on others. No one is forcing you to watch gay porn, but when, for example, a show like Game of Thrones shows two dudes in a love scene and certain people start freaking out like they've been forced to be a fluffer in a Falcon production, that is a problem.
Straight displays of affection and sexuality are EVERYWHERE. Literally in all places. Having the prevalence of the same type of content with gay individuals increase is showing that some people are not okay with being exposed to things that do not personally cater to their interests or beliefs, and many of these people feel the need to express these feeling through oppressive comments and/or actions. This is not okay.
Many people feel a variety of hate fueled emotions, that doesn't mean that other people should be subjected to them.
Which would only be a problem if you have some sort of issue with the idea of a Fetish.
Do you?
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I view sexual pleasure and sexual attraction as two different things. Straight men can find the act of "gay sex" pleasurable, but still not be emotionally gay.
milquetoast
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I agree, my question was stupid
George Oscar Bluth II
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No. At least, I don't think so.
Prejudice shaming?
And is often criticised by people for being shallow fanservice in film/TV/comics.
IsntChrisL
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Some of you guys really have your own heads up your asses when it comes to repulsion. You really think that every straight male that is grossed out by two men kissing/banging is caused purely by society? What's worse is some of you think gay people are incapable of the same reaction.
Plenty of gay men find the idea of having sex with a woman (even watching a woman have sex) repulsive. Being gay does not exempt you from natural reactions based on sexual attractions.
Plenty of gay men find the idea of having sex with a woman (even watching a woman have sex) repulsive. Being gay does not exempt you from natural reactions based on sexual attractions.
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I find it odd how straight men openly and, actually, fervently declare how appealing they find lesbian sex/porn. It's interesting because 99% of lesbian porn isn't actually made for women to watch, but for men. I guess it all ties into the fetishization of gay women as objects for enjoyment and not as real people.
I don't think straight men's aversion to gay male sex is based on the fact that they're not attracted to men. I think it's because they view gay male sex/porn as legitimate and not some fantasy in which to insert themselves, and the opposite holds true for lesbian sex/porn.
I don't think straight men's aversion to gay male sex is based on the fact that they're not attracted to men. I think it's because they view gay male sex/porn as legitimate and not some fantasy in which to insert themselves, and the opposite holds true for lesbian sex/porn.
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Um, no. If you're gonna tell me that most signs of straight sexuality present in today's culture are looked down upon, I would very strongly disagree with you. Of course certain specific aspects of it are, but that is not the topic at hand here.
Straight sexuality is celebrated and promoted everywhere. EVERYWHERE. In so many facets of life, I think most people do not ever consciously realize it.
ExplodingKetchup
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Is vanilla sex automatically a fetish if it involves something you don't like? No.
Monocle
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You sound like the kind of guy who holds hands with other guys in public. Why you gotta force your sexuality on everyone else?
Masquerader
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Basically this. It's so in-your-face, too. As if you absolutely must know about straight sex all the time, and absolutely must know that straight sex is the only form of sex ever.
If we don't consciously realise it, I don't see how we're celebrating it.
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Please don't speak for me. I can speak for myself just fine. And let me be blunt: you're making a large and incorrect generalization.
Do you have any idea how insufferable life would be for gay people if they were as repulsed by straight people kissing as some straight people are to gay people kissing? And don't even get me started on how little media could be consumed if straight sexuality made our skin crawl and made us physically ill.
I'm not bothered by it at all, and I can't think of any gay people I've personally known who were repulsed by heterosexuality. Can't speak for anyone else though.
Considering I never hear heterosexuality compared to fetishes, I would say it's a strange comparison to make. Particularly when there's a history of treating homosexuals as sick perverts -- the comparison draws on some bad history.
Being repulsed by gay sex is one thing, I sort of expected those responses coming in this thread. But some of you can't even stand to see two guys kissing, to the point of getting sick to the stomach? Really?
I may not be attracted to women but seeing a naked woman or women having sex doesn't bother me at all. So I'm boggled at the responses that it's cringe inducing to see two guys even kiss.
I'll be sure to kiss in public more often from now on so the heterosexual public at large can get desensitized to it.
I may not be attracted to women but seeing a naked woman or women having sex doesn't bother me at all. So I'm boggled at the responses that it's cringe inducing to see two guys even kiss.
I'll be sure to kiss in public more often from now on so the heterosexual public at large can get desensitized to it.
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The sad thing is, so many gay people are still afraid to show public signs of affection because they are worried that, (or just don't want to deal with), people having an adverse reaction to it.
Straight people never have to consider this. Bigots are not gonna call you out for being straight. Because straight sexuality is "normal" and gay sexuality is not to many people, and this is ingrained into you pretty much from birth.
That's why comments like "keep it to yourself!" or "why do I have to see it?" are so damaging.
I'm not sure you understood my comment. I don't mean that all signs of straight sexuality are not immediately definable, but that their sheer abundance is not something people consciously consider.
For example, in some topics we've had on GAF about more gay characters in games, some people break out the "why does the character have to say they're gay, can't you just assume they are?" or "straight characters aren't that prevalent! Most games I play everyone is completely sexually ambiguous!" to which I would say that if you truly think that, then you are incredible dense or are being purposely obtuse.
How is averting your attention subjecting them to it?
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This is very true. It's very interesting how straight men self-insert themselves into imaginary gay situations and therefore came up with an urgent and negative emotional feedback.
And yes, most lesbian stuff is made for men, straight men, and often would offend actual lesbians. And in turn, offended real lesbians are later dismissed as not actually appetizing by the same straight men audience.
Fascinating self-centered, self-catering circle jerk.
Monocle
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The worst thing is straight people at work who have pictures of their families. We get it Bob, you like to stick your man parts in lady parts, and you've done it at least three times if the brats in the photo are any indication. Why should I have to imagine some dude's engorged rod jackhammering his wife's beef curtains every single time I walk by his cubicle? Straights, have some decency. Pls stop broadcasting your bedroom activities to the entire world.
But seriously, you're right. I hope this illustrates the double standard.
Your solution?
It seems like representation is the issue (which is born from what currently is the majority "norm")
I hope my comparison isn't offense I've but it reminds me a little of the topic in gaming regarding the lack of proper female representation.
ab.aeterno
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Because, if we're talking about gay PDA, it's noticeable and it sends the message that "I can't look at this, it's not normal/it's weird/it's gross." Now imagine seeing people react negatively to you holding hands with or kissing your girlfriend/wife/partner every single day, and tell me that doesn't affect you or make you think twice about expressing affection in public the way straight couples do.
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It doesn't make you prejudiced as long as you don't try to impress that belief onto others.
I think eating fucking Marmite is disgusting and repulsive (probably only Brits will get this one), but I'm not going to tell everybody who does eat it they're disgusting, or that they can't do it.
I think eating fucking Marmite is disgusting and repulsive (probably only Brits will get this one), but I'm not going to tell everybody who does eat it they're disgusting, or that they can't do it.
...But not an actual circlejerk, mind you. That's just repulsive. Makes me sick just thinking about it. Keep your gay sex stuff away from my puritan senses!
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Adverting your attention? What exactly do you mean? Like closing your eyes when you see two dudes kissing? That's silly.
No one is saying that someone should purposely seek out something that does not interest them. But if you should happen to come across some gay sexuality in your travels through life, no one needs to hear your seven part thesis on how this disgusts you.
Gay people are subjected to straight sexuality on a daily basis. I don't feel the need to pour bleach on my eyes when I see this, or tell everyone in a five mile radius to keep their straight lovin' to themselves.
Some did, and some didn't. I'm not sure why that is important.
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No, it just means you're not gay*.
Finding it gross and then treating or even thinking about gay people as 2nd class citizens just because they are gay.....that would make you prejudiced.
*though not everyone who's straight would fine it repulsive
Finding it gross and then treating or even thinking about gay people as 2nd class citizens just because they are gay.....that would make you prejudiced.
*though not everyone who's straight would fine it repulsive
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