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[Valkerionseven]

I don't find it disgusting no.

I do however get disgusted by the same stuff in gay porn that grosses me out in straight porn so that tells me I simply have preferences lol. Yes I causally watch both but identify as straight.

 

[linkboy]

Two guys having sex doesn't bother me, but I get a little weirded out seeing two guys kiss. I'm not sure why.

However, it's none of my business to tell people what they do with their lives.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Findind the act of gay sex repulsive doesnt make you a bigot

 

[The Adder]

So that comes back to the question: what accounts for the difference in feeling? Not directed at you, but in general. I truly think a lot of it is in what we're exposed to, how, and in what volume.

As to your question: I mean picturing the act, or visualizing things I've seen in the past.

In my case, although I know you're asking in general, I just think we men are fucking hideous on a plain old aesthetic level.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Findind the act of gay sex repulsive doesnt make you a bigot

Are you telling us or yourself?

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

In my case, although I know you're asking in general, I just think we men are fucking hideous on a plain old aesthetic level.

Men are not hideous. OMG. How can say such things, it's sad. Men are as human as women. We come in different shapes and not one shape is less human than another. If there is a child that is born deformed, it does not make that child less human. Saying that 50% of us are' fucking hideous on plain old aesthetics' is quite a shocking thing for me.

Old people are fine. They are old. They were once young too. They sometimes still kiss each other. I think it's sweet. I don't watch but I think it's human to still want affection even at that age.

Fat people are fine. Short people are fine. Men are not hideous. OMG.

We shouldn't think only beautiful people are allowed to kiss and be affectionate in public. Love belongs to all of us, not just to the people who would appeal to the arousal of a subsection of our population, no matter how huge the subsection's majority is!



sorry for wordswordswords >___< tl;dr ....i just think men are as beautiful as women. we're all humans and we should all feel loved.

 

[Monocle]

In my case, although I know you're asking in general, I just think we men are fucking hideous on a plain old aesthetic level.

That's... kind of ridiculous. How could you even think that when you've been exposed to modern media? Beautiful people are everywhere.

It's always seemed so strange to me that some straight guys think all men are hideous. As a gay man I'm not blind to feminine beauty. Gorgeous women don't turn me on, that's all. Average looking women aren't gross either, they're just people who I feel no attraction to, like average looking dudes.

 

[Hours Left]

In my case, although I know you're asking in general, I just think we men are fucking hideous on a plain old aesthetic level.

Really? You can't even appreciate the male form at all? That's too bad.

The human body is beautiful.

 

[Not]

Nope. I mean, I think fat sex is gross, doesn't mean I'll stop fat people from doin' it

disclaimuh: I don't equate being gay with being fat at all. I try to find analogies to help people understand my reasoning, and if people take offense to them or find them problematic... I get bummed out

 

[NinjaBoiX]

What the fuck? Nobody does that. (OK, apart from people on the extreme fringes. The point is that the vast majority of people, gay and straight alike, want nothing to do with poop. It's generally an instant turnoff.)

This is like saying "I find vaginal sex in general pretty disgusting. There's something about putting my penis in a putrid cheesy slimehole that doesn't exactly appeal to me."

Hygiene. Preparation. These things are kind of important unless you have a fetish for filth.

This is a crazy false equivalency.

I presume you need to go to extra lengths to ensure that your anus doesn't have remnants of shit in there, above and beyond simply wiping your butt.

If a lady has a "putrid, cheesy slimehole", chances are her personal hygiene is so disgusting that she wouldn't have someone in her bed to begin with.

 

[Kangi]

Are you trying to make me pull out the Crotch Pockets post again?

 

[Kinokou]

No, the gender of those who preform the sexual acts doesn't matter at all.

The only thing I find repulsive is lack of consent aka rape. Makes me super uncomfortable in any form, even that forced blowjob in Swordfish.
A game of thrones season 4:

Spoiler

even dubious consent like with Jaime and Cersei after the funeral disturbs me.

Edit: I miss interpreted the title and op and every other snippet I looked at before posting.

Outright saying gay sex acts are disgusting is clearly prejudiced.

 

[Captain Europe]

This is a crazy false equivalency.

I presume you need to go to extra lengths to ensure that your anus doesn't have remnants of shit in there, above and beyond simply wiping your butt.

If a lady has a "putrid, cheesy slimehole", chances are her personal hygiene is so disgusting that she wouldn't have someone in her bed to begin with.

Just like someone with a hole full of shit.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

Nope. I mean, I think fat sex is gross, doesn't mean I'll stop fat people from doin' it

disclaimuh: I don't equate being gay with being fat at all. I try to find analogies to help people understand my reasoning, and if people take offense to them or find them problematic... I get bummed out

I know you dont mean bad with your analogy.

But why is fat people sex offensive

Is the answer... is like, well all fat people should just become skinny first before they are affectionate in public cuz otherwise my vanilla sensibilities are grossed out by people of large sizes kissing each other

?

It's not that easy, you know. I'm sure some heavier people wants to be slimmer, but some are pretty happy with how they are.

Shouldn't they be allowed to exist in the sexual realms? Of course, people would say, yeahyeah im not going to stop them, but if I see them eating each other faces in public, I'd find it gross, cuz it's all about me and my opinions. I'm totally cool with gays and fatties, just that if they gonna do icky-intimacy stuffs in public, I'd just quickly avoid being grossed out and avert my eyes and erase their affectionate existence from my sphere of knowledge! PHEW!


Now, now. I know that was an exaggeration.

But imagine how the gays/ fatties / uglies are feeling about themselves right about when they are realising normal people are finding them offensive visually when they are just being affectionate with their significant other in public spaces.



Anyway, I am not attacking you. So please dont feel bummed out <3 I'm just trying to voice out how we are also feeling pretty bummed out, at the other end of the rainbow, because we continuously feel like society equates us to 'ugliness' or 'undesirableness'.

And you know.... we're pretty normal. Swearrrrr~

 

[NinjaBoiX]

Just like someone with a hole full of shit.

Really?

I consider my personal hygiene to be exemplary, but I don't douche my butt or anything, I just wipe normally and run a soapy hand down my crack in the shower.

If a girl has "putrid, cheesy slime" in her vagina, she probably hasn't showered in weeks.

 

[Kangi]

Really?

I don't douche my butt or anything, I just wipe normally and run a soapy hand down my crack in the shower.

If a girl has "putrid, cheesy slime" in her vagina, she probably hasn't showered in weeks.

And if a gay guy finds himself sticking his tent pole into watered soil, then a similar situation is likely at play.

 

[Monocle]

This is a crazy false equivalency.

I presume you need to go to extra lengths to ensure that your anus doesn't have remnants of shit in there, above and beyond simply wiping your butt.

If a lady has a "putrid, cheesy slimehole", chances are her personal hygiene is so disgusting that she wouldn't have someone in her bed to begin with.

No more wild than your suggestion that anal sex involves ramming your dick into shit. The truth is that people with healthy digestive systems and good diets will fully evacuate their colon when they have bowel movements. In which case preparation is still a good idea, but not strictly necessary.

 

[The Adder]

Men are not hideous. OMG. How can say such things, it's sad. Men are as human as women. We come in different shapes and not one shape is less human than another. If there is a child that is born deformed, it does not make that child less human. Saying that 50% of us are' fucking hideous on plain old aesthetics' is quite a shocking thing for me.

Old people are fine. They are old. They were once young too. They sometimes still kiss each other. I think it's sweet. I don't watch but I think it's human to still want affection even at that age.

Fat people are fine. Short people are fine. Men are not hideous. OMG.

We shouldn't think only beautiful people are allowed to kiss and be affectionate in public. Love belongs to all of us, not just to the people who would appeal to the arousal of a subsection of our population, no matter how huge the subsection's majority is!

If you can find a single post where I said otherwise I'd like to see it.

Really? You can't even appreciate the male form at all? That's too bad.

The human body is beautiful.

That's... kind of ridiculous. How could you even think that when you've been exposed to modern media? Beautiful people are everywhere.

The standards of male attractiveness are not appealing to me aesthetically. "Fucking hideous" is an exaggeration into absurdity, but tone doesn't carry properly on the internet despite the incongruity with the rest of my posts.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

No more wild than your suggestion that anal sex involves ramming your dick into shit.

That wasn't me dude, you were quoting someone else.

The truth is that people with healthy digestive systems and good diets will fully evacuate their colon when they have bowel movements. In which case preparation is still a good idea, but not strictly necessary.

So you're saying that even if you eat healthy and wash properly, it's still a good idea to make special hygiene preparations before anal sex.

Which is basically exactly what I was saying.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

If you can find a single post where I said otherwise I'd like to see it.





The standards of male attractiveness are not appealing to me aesthetically. "Fucking hideous" is an exaggeration into absurdity, but tone doesn't carry properly on the internet despite the incongruity with the rest of my posts.

Oh, I am not saying that you said old people are hideous and such.

I am just extrapolating from your post that since you think men are hideous, maybe I should come with examples of things that other posters have brought up as 'unappealing' to them.

I am saying that, that kind of hyperbole language, such as saying "men are fucking hideous" doesn't really foster acceptance in the very discussion of conquering societal prejudice. I think it's not a conducive manner of speech, specially in a sphere where people are already feeling very insecure about them being accepted into the mainstream population.

And yeah, there must have been some tonal contents lost through internet conversation, also.

Hope that clarifies .... a bit.....

 

[Nerokis]

No, it does not make you prejudiced. Sodomy is, from a functional and biological point of view, aberrant from the penis-vagina intercourse, so there is an expected amount of hesitation built into you - built into everyone, actually. But for some, social views have over come that hesitation over time.

Speaking of repulsion, this post reacquainted me with that emotion. The poor, unscientific application of biological concepts; the stunningly backwards declaration that everyone is born apprehensive about gay sex, but society manages to nurture that apprehension out of us; the jarringly placed Biblical terminology, along with the way words like "aberrant" and phrase like "penis-vagina intercourse" were put together. This might seem random, but this post came off as pornographic in the worst way - in a Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom way. Just did not see it coming at all. I imagine that my reaction to this post is the same one some of the people in this thread would have if they were scrolling through NeoGAF, only to suddenly stumble upon a picture of a guy being blown by another guy.

Strangely enough, I could suddenly understand these people, if not necessarily relate to them.

I see you've evolved from your "my friend has reasonable arguments against same-sex marriage out of Aristotelian principles" tirade. But no matter.

...

Homosexuality, and independently, what you refer to as "sodo my", has existed throughout human (and sexual animal) history, and continues to do so today. I fail to see how your argument is anything but unscientific in one respect, but lacking in rational development as well.

This post, on the other hand, is just beautiful.

 

[Monocle]

That wasn't me dude, you were quoting someone else.

Oops, damn.

So you're saying that even if you eat healthy and wash properly, it's still a good idea to make special hygiene preparations before anal sex.

Which is basically exactly what I was saying.

Let's just be clear that not everyone's asshole is a shitpacked biohazard like that other dude seemed to imply.

 

[Not]

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dude, fat people don't gross me out. neither do gay people. neither do most organisms.

when you add sex to the mix, things get a little unappetizing. I dunno, it's just that I can't relate to it, or I'm wired differently, or something.

wasn't attacking you either, or anyone heavyset really. I love all you human beings. 7-billion person group huuuuuuuuuugggg

EDIT:

And if a gay guy finds himself sticking his tent pole into watered soil, then a similar situation is likely at play.

...awww, man

 

[Captain Europe]

Oops, damn.


Let's just be clear that not everyone's asshole is a shitpacked biohazard like that other dude seemed to imply.

People with bad hygiene who have sex with people with bad hygiene need to stop speaking for all people.

 

[san00ake]

No, in the same way that finding some food disgusting or unappealing isn't homophobic.
It just doesn't appeal to you and your body "rejects" it.
Saying that you find it disgusting is a different matter though.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

dude, fat people don't gross me out. neither do gay people. neither do most organisms.

when you add sex to the mix, things get a little unappetizing. I dunno, it's just that I can't relate to it, or I'm wired differently, or something.

wasn't attacking you either, or anyone heavyset really. I love all you human beings. 7-billion person group huuuuuuuuuugggg

YAY 7BILLION PERSON GROUP HUGGGGGGGGGGGG

 

[BouncyFrag]

nvm

 

[Seanspeed]

Outright saying gay sex acts are disgusting is clearly prejudiced.

Agree for the most part.

But I think its normal to be turned off by sexual acts with people you are not attracted to in the least. I have zero attraction to males, so gay sex with males is definitely off-putting for me. Gross is a harsh word, but it wouldn't be unreasonable to use. But equally, sex with a disgusting, morbidly obese chick would also be 'gross' to me as well.

Gay sex between two attractive females is not gross to me, on the other hand.

But yes, outright saying any gay sex is gross is more than likely due to prejudiced beliefs. There may be some instances where this isn't the case, though. I don't know of them, but I don't want to outright deny they could exist.

 

[videogamer3]

that Japanese video where the girl eats the blended up roaches and throws it up onto a guy's junk.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Let me just say that personally, I'm not a homosexual, but I have never been really turned off by seeing attractive passionate people getting it on, regardless of the sex. I prefer hetero and lesbian stuff strongly though.

 

[Lisker]

Finding it disgusting is fine, just as long as you do not judge other people for it.

Having an opinion on something is never a bad thing, it's forcing that opinion on others when the problems start.

 

[Seanspeed]

Finding it disgusting is fine, just as long as you do not judge other people for it.

An important distinction, definitely. Its one thing finding the act disgusting yourself and another judging the people to be 'disgusting people' for doing it.

Having an opinion on something is never a bad thing, it's forcing that opinion on others when the problems start.

Well, that's kind of wrong. Having a negative opinion on something based solely on prejudice is typically a bad thing, whether you keep it to yourself or not.

 

[NinjaBoyLao]

Not at all. I just had a drink with a couple of childhood friends and one of them(gay and a friend for almost 25 years) announced that he'll be married soon (to another gay who was present last night) and I'm geniunely amazed of the news. Some girls were teasing them about those things they do in bed and I don't feel disgusted at all, probably because they are really funny people and I'm really overwhelmed by the news since my gay friend has gone through a lot of horrible things in the past concerning his sexual preference and I'm really happy that he got over all of those.

 

[Frodo]

I find it funny when a straight guy says he doesn't find ANY male on the planet handsome. I mean, I know you have to protect your very very very fragile masculinity because, for reasons unknown, it is also very very very important, but we are all bombarded by media and society with information describing how an attractive male should look like, regardless of us wanting to receive that information or not (unless you live in a cave, with no internet access or TV and haven't touched a magazine or a newspaper or had contact with other human being in ages, which you don't). So, in theory, we all know what constitutes a good-looking male and what constitutes a beautiful female. You have all the right on earth to not be attracted to one of them or even both, but I'm sure you DO know how to differentiate from a conventionally good-looking or attractive person from a not so good-looking one, regardless of their gender. Of course, social and cultural influences and, perhaps most importantly, individual differences or preferences do apply in this case, but you would still know what makes a person to be defined as attractive within your own culture.

Not at all. I just had a drink with a couple of childhood friends and one of them(gay and a friend for almost 25 years) announced that he'll be married soon (to another gay who was present last night) and I'm geniunely amazed of the news. Some girls were teasing them about those things they do in bed and I don't feel disgusted at all, probably because they are really funny people and I'm really overwhelmed by the news since my gay friend has gone through a lot of horrible things in the past concerning his sexual preference and I'm really happy that he got over all of those.

Off topic, but this is something that bothers me a lot. No one comes to a straight couple they have just met and start asking questions about what they do on bed (might not be the case with your friend, just using this as an example because I guess it kind of fits). Why do people think they have the right to ask this to gay/lesbian couples? Drives me insane! You've just met someone! You DO NOT GET TO ASK what they do in bed. It's private, personal and you have nothing to do with it.

It is one of the few opportunities that I'll allow me the right to be unpleasant and start asking the same questions or worse to the person that started the awkward conversation.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

I find it funny when a straight guy says he doesn't find ANY male on the planet handsome. I mean, I know you have to protect your very very very fragile masculinity because, for reasons unknown, it is also very very very important, but we are all bombarded by media and society with information describing how an attractive male should look like, regardless of us wanting to receive that information or not (unless you live in a cave, with no internet access or TV and haven't touched a magazine or a newspaper or had contact with other human being in ages, which you don't). So, in theory, we all know what constitutes a good-looking male and what constitutes a beautiful female. You have all the right on earth to not be attracted to one of them or even both, but I'm sure you DO know how to differentiate from a conventionally good-looking or attractive person from a not so good-looking one, regardless of their gender. Of course, social and cultural influences and, perhaps most importantly, individual differences or preferences do apply in this case, but you would still know what makes a person to be defined as attractive within your own culture.






Off topic, but this is something that bothers me a lot. No one comes to a straight couple they have just met and start asking questions about what they do on bed (might not be the case with your friend, just using this as an example because I guess it kind of fits). Why do people think they have the right to ask this to gay/lesbian couples? Drives me insane! You've just met someone! You DO NOT GET TO ASK what they do in bed. It's private, personal and you have nothing to do with it.

It is one of the few opportunities that I'll allow me the right to be unpleasant and start asking the same questions or worse to the person that started the awkward conversation.

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa this this this

 

[Lisker]

Well, that's kind of wrong. Having a negative opinion on something based solely on prejudice is typically a bad thing, whether you keep it to yourself or not.

True, but changing someones opinion once formed is almost impossible. It's more important to show other people the respect they deserve.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

Not sure how it works.

Most men love the look of two good looking women kissing, but not two good looking men. Strangely enough I don't know any WOMEN who like the look of two good looking men getting it on.

My wife cringed at Jason and Eric kissing in True Blood, but on their own she LOVES them.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

Not sure how it works.

Most men love the look of two good looking women kissing, but not two good looking men. Strangely enough I don't know any WOMEN who like the look of two good looking men getting it on.

My wife cringed at Jason and Eric kissing in True Blood, but on their own she LOVES them.

halllooooo

also, see: lots and lots of fanfiction slash writers. many are women. some are even straight women.

 

[Frodo]

True, but changing someones opinion once formed is almost impossible. It's more important to show other people the respect they deserve.

No.


I've changed opinions a lot of times. People change opinions all the time as well. It is part of growing up. Maturing. Ignorance, arrogance and bigotry make it harder fro people to change their mind, but it is nowhere near impossible to do it. If you have an opinion not based on facts or evidences, and presented with said facts and evidences and explained why you can be potentially wrong and still can't change, it is all on you. I agree all people deserve respect, though.

 

[NinjaBoyLao]

Off topic, but this is something that bothers me a lot. No one comes to a straight couple they have just met and start asking questions about what they do on bed (might not be the case with your friend, just using this as an example because I guess it kind of fits). Why do people think they have the right to ask this to gay/lesbian couples? Drives me insane! You've just met someone! You DO NOT GET TO ASK what they do in bed. It's private, personal and you have nothing to do with it.
.

Nah. We've known each other since we were kindergarten, and we're now 30 years old. We all grew up together, it's lke 20-ish of us who went to the same school from kinder to High school and just got separated when we went to college. Even then, we still make it a habit that we see each other at least once a year. We are almost like siblings(and we are also close to each others parents!). Our girls can talk about how their pee will flow through thighs when peeing on the woods during an overnight camping so talking about personal things like sex is like talking about the new plants vs zombie game for us.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

halllooooo

also, see: lots and lots of fanfiction slash writers. many are women. some are even straight women.

I said I don't know any women who are into it. I never said they don't exist.

 

[Frodo]

Not sure how it works.

Most men love the look of two good looking women kissing, but not two good looking men. Strangely enough I don't know any WOMEN who like the look of two good looking men getting it on.

My wife cringed at Jason and Eric kissing in True Blood, but on their own she LOVES them.

Where is that tumblr video of that girlfriend filming her boyfriend getting a blowjob from her gay friend when you need it? Loads of girls get on with gay sex! There is A LOT of fan fiction and even comic books that sorely revolve around the theme.

Nah. We've known each other since we were kindergarten, and we're now 30 years old. We all grew up together, it's lke 20-ish of us who went to the same school from kinder to High school and just got separated when we went to college. Even then, we still make it a habit that we see each other at least once a year. We are almost like siblings(and we are also close to each others parents!). Our girls can talk about how their pee will flow through thighs when peeing on the woods during an overnight camping so talking about personal things like sex is like talking about the new plants vs zombie game for us.

That's why I added that it might not be the case with your friend. It is just that when I was reading it for some reason I thought about that inappropriate behaviour and wanted to vent...

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

I said I don't know any women who are into it. I never said they don't exist.

Ya, I just introducing myself, I mean. Hallo, and all that.

I think there's a few here on GAF too :>

 

[Kangi]

I find it funny when a straight guy says he doesn't find ANY male on the planet handsome. I mean, I know you have to protect your very very very fragile masculinity because, for reasons unknown, it is also very very very important, but we are all bombarded by media and society with information describing how an attractive male should look like, regardless of us wanting to receive that information or not (unless you live in a cave, with no internet access or TV and haven't touched a magazine or a newspaper or had contact with other human being in ages, which you don't). So, in theory, we all know what constitutes a good-looking male and what constitutes a beautiful female. You have all the right on earth to not be attracted to one of them or even both, but I'm sure you DO know how to differentiate from a conventionally good-looking or attractive person from a not so good-looking one, regardless of their gender. Of course, social and cultural influences and, perhaps most importantly, individual differences or preferences do apply in this case, but you would still know what makes a person to be defined as attractive within your own culture.

There's such a large difference between attractiveness and being attracted to somebody. Either people have completely conflated the two, or they're trying very hard to convince themselves - and by extension everyone else - that they're Kinsey scale 0's.

 

[jorma]

I find it funny when a straight guy says he doesn't find ANY male on the planet handsome. I mean, I know you have to protect your very very very fragile masculinity because, for reasons unknown, it is also very very very important, but we are all bombarded by media and society with information describing how an attractive male should look like, regardless of us wanting to receive that information or not (unless you live in a cave, with no internet access or TV and haven't touched a magazine or a newspaper or had contact with other human being in ages, which you don't). So, in theory, we all know what constitutes a good-looking male and what constitutes a beautiful female. You have all the right on earth to not be attracted to one of them or even both, but I'm sure you DO know how to differentiate from a conventionally good-looking or attractive person from a not so good-looking one, regardless of their gender. Of course, social and cultural influences and, perhaps most importantly, individual differences or preferences do apply in this case, but you would still know what makes a person to be defined as attractive within your own culture.

.

There are miles of difference between recognising that other people will find Brad Pitt attractive and actually being attracted to Brad Pitt. Has little to do with fragile masculinity, but rather with not being attracted to men.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

There are miles of difference between recognising that other people will find Brad Pitt attractive and actually being attracted to Brad Pitt. Has little to do with fragile masculinity, but rather with not being attracted to men.

But the discussion is not about factoring the viewer into the intimacy.... it's more like, if two dudes in the level of Hollywood star beauties are kissing on screen, ... still some men would be like "sorry bro, we men are just ugly gorillas for my sensible masculine eyes"

....and not "oh, those two good looking men are using their faces to express love, that's nice for them"

 

[Maebe]

I think a lot of how a person was raised and what they were told about gay sex warps their perception of it to consider it gross or disgusting.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

I've always really worried about this. In terms of my political inclinations and personal beliefs, I'm as pro-gay rights as you can get, and have written to my MP on the subject of legalizing gay marriage, attended LGBTQ+ rights marches, etc. However, deep down on a sub-logical level, I just find the idea of male-male sex really... icky. It's not that I find it repulsive in the sense of wrong or evil or anything, but it's in the same category of "ewwww" as weird fetishes. I try to never let it prejudice my beliefs or in any way alter how I act or think, but the very fact that it evokes such a feeling in me makes me feel guilty sometimes.

 

[Deaf Spacker]

This is a weird one for me, I'm a fairly laid back guy and I don't mind lesbian porn but I feel uncomfortable at the idea of watching two or more dudes getting it on with each other.

On the other hand I can adknowledge that a guy such as Ryan Gosling is handsome but I'm in no way sexually attracted to him or any other man, I just feel comfortable enough that I can agree with someone if they say "Oh hey XXX is looking great" etc.

Does that make me prejudiced? I hope not as I'm very supportive of GLBT rights and I have a few gay friends.

 

[jorma]

But the discussion is not about factoring the viewer into the intimacy.... it's more like, if two dudes in the level of Hollywood star beauties are kissing on screen, ... still some men would be like "sorry bro, we men are just ugly gorillas for my sensible masculine eyes"

....and not "oh, those two good looking men are using their faces to express love, that's nice for them"

Ok, i was responding to the dude who claimed (or at least i interpreted his post as a claim) that it's unlikely that i would find all men unattractive because i should be conditioned to know what an attractive man looks like by now. And i agree with one of his premises - i am conditioned to know what an attractive man looks like.
But i'm still not attracted.

And why is their perceived good looks of any importance in your second scenario? Can't it be nice for them even if they are ugly looking men?
That these hollywood hunks who are kissing on screen are good looking doesn't change anything for me personally. They could just as well be "ugly gorillas" kissing for all i would care.