Beelzebufo
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Probably 3 lol.
This makes it sounds like he'll reveal them all before launch though.
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This makes it sounds like he'll reveal them all before launch though.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Well, they could have newcomers without any video. Did Sakurai said something about not all newcomers would have their video?
BassForever
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Hype train all aboard CHOO CHOO
It's got to be Chrom... assuming the Gematsu link is true. I just don't see Shulk or Chorus Men being important enough to get their own live stream... but then again, popularity may not be a factor here.
Also, he chose his words carefully: Nearing the bottom of the Newcomer videos.
Also, he chose his words carefully: Nearing the bottom of the Newcomer videos.
Close to the bottom of these intro trailers. Doesn't mean we won't have new characters in the game, but without trailers like the ones we've gotten.
I think we'll see one more after this one before launch.
Starphoenix
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It's not.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Probably did a countdown solely because Shulk had countdowns to prevent attacks from happening in Blade.
BassForever
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Gematsu leak doubters gonna start sweating monday when chrom/shulk/chorus men are reavealed
Baron von Loathsome
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It'd be cool if the Chorus Kids trailer or artwork somehow referenced this.
balladofwindfishes
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I hope Lucas fans are ready for crushing disappointment.
True enough. Any of those three are pretty unlikely, and basically seal the deal (though Chrom only because of Ike and Marth). WFT aside, the other revealed characters from the leaks were all pretty safe guesses (outside of MM maybe). Still incredible to get that many guesses right though, and with some accurate naming quirks.
Pretty much our only hope at this point is that the third leak was actually from a different, wrong-er source somewhere down the chain. Lucas PLS.
Starphoenix
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Are there people who still seriously doubt those three aren't playable? I could understand not believing those three are the only newcomers left, doubting those three are playable is a bigger stretch.
Hyperactivity
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I'm sorry, Saki's dead ):Feel free to announce these two, Sakurai
Just like you did in that dream I had.
Maybe Isa.....
balladofwindfishes
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JediLink
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There are always people who refuse logic and reason no matter what, so of course.
They didn't guess Greninja. They just guessed some Pokemon from X/Y (though there's a reason for that.)
I thought Pac-Man seemed pretty likley, since we've known Namco was involved. That was before e3, wasn't it? He was already iconic enough to be feasible, but the Namco thing made it seem 'safe' to me.
It's a moot point though, given that they got so many consistently right.
I'm under no illusions as to how unlikely they are, but if we did get a S&P rep, I'd much rather have a team rather than just Isa - (K)achi is equally important in the game, and had a much larger role in the first than Isa. Plus, it'd allow for the first female villain on the roster.
But a trophy is fine too.
(gross sobbing)
SpacePirate Ridley
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Wow, this screen looks terrible.
It's 66.5% Wii assets, so I'm not surprised.
Baron von Loathsome
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Saki got the Smash Bros. logo as his icon. Isa is dead, too.
While you're basically almost assuredly correct... diddy kong also had his brawl image during that same direct. Not all assets were final when they showed saki, so don't 100% rule it out because of THAT. That said, Isa won't be in.
At this point I want one of two things from newcomers.
1. To be surprised by the newcomer itself. If gematsu is correct, then that won't happen anymore. E3 2013 was great because I expected none of them. Especially WFT. Direct was great because I totally didn't think we'd get a pokemon from XY since it came out AFTER smash 4 reveal (unprecedented).
2. To be surprised by the newcomer's moveset. So far sakurai has surprised me almost 100% since I've predicted none of the moves from almost all of the newcomers so far. I kinda expected little mac to be mostly punch based, but never anticipated what sakurai would do w/ him (KO meter, etc)
Beelzebufo
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Villager and Mii weren't exactly easy picks, since Sakurai explicitly said that they wouldn't work as fighters last time around. Maybe Pacman too, although a case could be made for him like others have said.
Either way, by this point it should be obvious the leaker is right.
Either way, by this point it should be obvious the leaker is right.
I have a theory that stems from that part about "bottom of the stash of new challenger videos."
What if the Gematsu leak is only the remaining newcomers with trailers, and there are some that haven't been leaked that will remain secret?
Beelzebufo
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I believe it's been confirmed that all newcomers will get videos.
Some people (myself included) have been guessing the leaker or his source is mostly involved with the production of the newcomer videos. It makes some sense, really. Especially since he seems really confident in the newcomers, but doesn't seem super confident in what else he leaked (he only said DLC was planned and wasn't sure on if Lucas was getting axed or not).
I highly doubt the unlockable newcomers will have them.
I thought that was speculation. Do we have a quote where he says that *ALL* newcomers will get videos? Is there literally ZERO possibility that some newcomers will be secret until release?
Snake and sonic were unlockable. I wouldn't be surprised if megaman, sonic, and pacman were all unlockable.
Beelzebufo
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If he was involved in making the videos, he would have known Greninja's name. It's more likely that he knew early information from the character decision stages (including the initial reveal plans). He wouldn't know Greninja's name, wouldn't know if Lucas was in or not for sure, and wouldn't have known if reveal times were changed.
Couldnt a secret character just have an unlockable video? Hold on, I'll try to find it. I coulda sworn he said that. It would suck for a character to get short changed just because they're unlockable.
Glass Rebel
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It'll be just like Sakurai to get us hyped for another damn sword user.
Give me Ephraim or give me death.
Finale Fireworker
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This raises the question as to why there would be newcomers without trailers. What would be the interest in doing that?
Beelzebufo
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Found it. He doesn't exactly say that there will fo sho be one for every character, but it's definitely implied. It also depends on how much you believe Kotaku's translators.
http://kotaku.com/the-next-super-smash-bros-wont-have-a-story-mode-or-c-906856304
Also, it's pretty intuitive that each newcomer will get a video. They're just screwed over otherwise. Like Mii Fighter, and even Mii Fighter sort of got a trailer.
http://kotaku.com/the-next-super-smash-bros-wont-have-a-story-mode-or-c-906856304
Also, it's pretty intuitive that each newcomer will get a video. They're just screwed over otherwise. Like Mii Fighter, and even Mii Fighter sort of got a trailer.
IntelliHeath
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I have a strange feeling that Chorus Men/Chorus Kids are more likely to be reveal this Monday.
I should've mentioned an exception for third parties, but yeah, they'll have videos if they're unlockable.
There's reasons to not know Greninja's name. He could just plain not be interested in Pokemon, the videos could've been made before Greninja was named, ect. Plus, somewhere between the Smash Direct and E3 2014 Mii's name changed to Mii Fighter, and he or his source was there recently enough to know of this change. That in my mind rules out that he was only there for early production.
It'd be disappointing if all the unlockable characters were veterans. Hope Sakurai saved a few newcomers for that (and not 3rd party ones) although I doubt there are any left aside from the Gematsu 3.
In regards to promotional videos for an unlockable newcomer, here is how I'd picture it. First do a "Challenger Approaching!" silhouette tease, then a match against the character in classic Smash style. If you win, the (skippable) character promotional video plays which can also be watched in the menus.
In regards to promotional videos for an unlockable newcomer, here is how I'd picture it. First do a "Challenger Approaching!" silhouette tease, then a match against the character in classic Smash style. If you win, the (skippable) character promotional video plays which can also be watched in the menus.
I'm thinking the same thing. I find it (extremely) unlinkely that Sakurai will reveal all newcomers before the game is out and not keep a few of them hidden. My guess is that the Gematsu leak has all the starter newcomers, with a few ones being unlockables we don't know about.
(Pac-Man and Mega Man could be unlockables or not, but they were likely revealed before release because they're 3rd party).
Beelzebufo
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I suppose the Mii Fighter change is an inconsistency. I still wouldn't expect more characters, as I can't imagine there aren't videos for any secret newcomers as well.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Well we got Chrom who uses a Sword. Shulk who uses a Sword. And maybe a Rhythm Heaven character.
Ephraim probably gonna be a sticker again.
I agree, I think all newcomers need a video. It totally kills the mystery, though, but it definitely makes up for it w/ a sweet video.
Beelzebufo
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That's true, they could use a sword if the wandering samurai shows up in their moveset!
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