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Y2Kev said:
Legend of Dragoon is like a molasses simulator. Maybe if I was unemployed. The game feels super ps1 and very classic but the battles are just so, so slow.
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I'll see if I can find this video, but there was a comparison piece someone did to an average Dragoon battle against a normal battle in FF IX. IX's fights were something like 12-15% more time-consuming, from what I can remember.

I get why people would dislike it, but it's a game that served as a gateway for so many of us into RPGs. Great towns, neat ideas, and good music made it a fun experience.
 
Ended up riding the hype for Wild Arms. Picked up WA 1,2, TM: Black, Legend of Dragoon and Malicious because i had to see how bad or good it was.
 
nrvalleytime said:
I'll see if I can find this video, but there was a comparison piece someone did to an average Dragoon battle against a normal battle in FF IX. IX's fights were something like 12-15% more time-consuming, from what I can remember.

I get why people would dislike it, but it's a game that served as a gateway for so many of us into RPGs. Great towns, neat ideas, and good music made it a fun experience.
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IX is unplayable today.
 
Picked up all the Syphon Filter games and both Dino Crisis. My PS3 backlog is getting nearly as big as my Steam one, goddamn.
 
I'm almost glad I didn't have a PS1 back in the day (Went with N64). Now I can play all he classics for the first time for a cheap price on my Vita!
 
jakomocha said:
Well, I haven't played a JRPG in forever (I think my last one was like Pokemon Platinum, and that was released what- 5 years ago?) and was planning on playing Ni No Kuni to reintroduce myself to the genre (or maybe Earthbound), but would something like Wild Arms be better? I guess I'm looking for something that's not toocomplicated or time consuming, but still has a good plot and strong enough gameplay mechanics.
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I cannot stand the battle systems in modern jRPGs, so I would definitely recommend WA over NNK. For more information about Wild ARMs, pros and cons, you can check out my post here.

Y2Kev said:
Legend of Dragoon is like a molasses simulator. Maybe if I was unemployed. The game feels super ps1 and very classic but the battles are just so, so slow.
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Adam Prime said:
Let me refer you to my earlier impressions of this title:
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I'm with you guys. I remember renting that game back in the day, before it could feel "dated" and all, and it was so boring, I hated it. Can't imagine I'd like it today.
 
Mutagenic said:
Totally unplayable.
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Adam Prime said:
Completely agree. And it's totally depressing because IX was my favorite FF. But Ill never replay it in its current state.
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Y2Kev said:
IX is unplayable today.
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So...what am I playing today?

True there's a lot of slowdown. A lot of slowdown. But it's still nice to play on the Vita while you're watching TV or just going through the motions, especially if you know what you're going for.
 
Phineous_2 said:
Never played LoD or WA before. Early impressions: LoD I'm finding strangely uneven. Visuals are good (considering the date), music is hit or miss. Like, Menu Music is really good, victory fanfare is laughably awful. I'm also having issues timing the button press you have to make during attacks. IDK if it's because of input lag or what, but i'm having to hit the button (seemingly) super early in order to time it right. It makes me feel like I did the first time I played FFVII (though i'm not as impressed with it as I was with VII), and that's a good thing.
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If you're playing it on a PS3 via HDMI then it's input lag. Any timing-based systems in PS1 games are tough if not impossible to play on a PS3. Should probably be in the OP. I didn't know that game had such a system.
 
On the topic of LoD, the game is pretty damn slow in certain parts. I enjoyed my replay on vita but damn the battle system is slow.

I'm def picking up Wild Arms 2. I'll have to decide on other purchases since I have a lot of those.

Verelios said:
So...what am I playing today?

True there's a lot of slowdown. A lot of slowdown. But it's still nice to play on the Vita while you're watching TV or just going through the motions, especially if you know what you're going for.
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I think it's really dependant on the person but in a lot of cases people will be turned off by IX's slowdown.

I love the game and plan to do a replay soon(haven't played it in almost 9 years hah!) but I'm even a little fearful of the slowdown. I'll get past it but it's not something I look forward to. Especially when I've got games like VII, VIII(No-enc and speed up) and X that are much faster.
 
It really sucks when PSN forces $5 out of you. I'm only interested in the Dino Crises games and Harvest moon. I'm actually not even sure about Harvest Moon. What's the point of it? I've never played Harvest Moon or even Animal Crossing.
 
Astral said:
It really sucks when PSN forces $5 out of you. I'm only interested in the Dino Crises games and Harvest moon. I'm actually not even sure about Harvest Moon. What's the point of it? I've never played Harvest Moon or even Animal Crossing.
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It's super easy to get all the trophies in Virtua Fighter 2, if that's your thing and you don't have it yet. Papo & Yo is also a decent platformer.
Was never into Harvest Moon and I eventually grew bored with Animal Crossing after a few months. Too much of a chore
 
Verelios said:
So...what am I playing today?

True there's a lot of slowdown. A lot of slowdown. But it's still nice to play on the Vita while you're watching TV or just going through the motions, especially if you know what you're going for.
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I agree. Plus the card game in IX is pretty damn fun.

Wild Arms 1 and 2 for $2. Fantastic. Now if only Wild Arms 5 was available on ps2 classics. Loved that game.
 
Got pretty much everything aside from TWA (already have them on PS+), Machinarium Vita, Urban Trials (both), Velocity Ultra (both) and Twisted Metal Black.
 
Y2Kev said:
IX is unplayable today.
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That's the thing - it's time consuming, but not unplayable. I'm in the middle of my first playthrough at the moment for IX, and it's not unbearable. The Vita makes those short sessions tolerable, and the story makes up for the additional time.

It's certainly a product of the past, but it's not archived there.

Dragoon doesn't have the graphical polish of IX, but time consuming isn't the crime that should relegate it to the lower tiers of RPGs.
 
The hell is this?!

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Anyone else getting that? I just bought it. I hope they didn't just spring a free one AFTER people are buying it.
 
Verelios said:
So...what am I playing today?

True there's a lot of slowdown. A lot of slowdown. But it's still nice to play on the Vita while you're watching TV or just going through the motions, especially if you know what you're going for.
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No offense to any of the people you quoted, but the hyperbole train has been making a lot of stops in Unplayable Village lately so I wouldn't pay them much mind. For me, a game is unplayable when, you know, it's impossible to play. Not because the game you're playing isn't quite up to snuff. FF IX absolutely can be played. Sorry if I'm nit picking, but sometimes words really do mean things.
 
You're right-- it's not unplayable or broken or whatever. But I can't see any way I could play it myself today in my contemporary context. I'm kind of sad about that. I could certainly never enjoy a game like Legend of Dragoon where you have to babysit the battles.

DidntKnowJack said:
No offense to any of the people you quoted, but the hyperbole train has been making a lot of stops in Unplayable Village lately so I wouldn't pay them much mind. For me, a game is unplayable when, you know, it's impossible to play. Not because the game you're playing isn't quite up to snuff. FF IX absolutely can be played. Sorry if I'm nit picking, but sometimes words really do mean things.
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For me it actually is unplayable.
 
Y2Kev said:
You're right-- it's not unplayable or broken or whatever. But I can't see any way I could play it myself today in my contemporary context. I'm kind of sad about that. I could certainly never enjoy a game like Legend of Dragoon where you have to babysit the battles.

For me it actually is unplayable.
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That's an interesting perspective. And a valid one, given that you mentioned contemporary influences being a large reason you can't play it. So long as the grievous train recognizes hyperbole and personal opinions. :-D

I'd like to know though: what RPGs from that era do you prefer then? Faster paced ones (obviously), but just curious.
 
Wounded said:
Is it worth it to go ahead again get Wild Arms 1, or splash a bit more and get the PSP remake?
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I think you may have gotten 'Wild Arms XF' and 'Wild Arms Alter Code F' mixed up. Alter Code F is the remake of the original, a PS2 title. It's somewhat rare and expensive at this point - you're talking ~$50 used versus 99¢.

The PSP title, Wild ARMs XF, is a pretty good SRPG, but it's unrelated.
 
nrvalleytime said:
That's an interesting perspective. And a valid one, given that you mentioned contemporary influences being a large reason you can't play it. So long as the grievous train recognizes hyperbole and personal opinions. :-D

I'd like to know though: what RPGs from that era do you prefer then? Faster paced ones (obviously), but just curious.
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Y2Kev said:
You're right-- it's not unplayable or broken or whatever. But I can't see any way I could play it myself today in my contemporary context. I'm kind of sad about that. I could certainly never enjoy a game like Legend of Dragoon where you have to babysit the battles.




For me it actually is unplayable.
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Verelios said:
So...what am I playing today?

True there's a lot of slowdown. A lot of slowdown. But it's still nice to play on the Vita while you're watching TV or just going through the motions, especially if you know what you're going for.
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I think the context of sitting in front of a TV playing them is unbearable. I could do these games sitting on the couch doing something else playing on Vita or PSP. Basically it needs to be a mobile type of experience where you're not all thee way engaged.
 
Adam Prime said:
I think the context of sitting in front of a TV playing them is unbearable. I could do these games sitting on the couch doing something else playing on Vita or PSP. Basically it needs to be a mobile type of experience where you're not all thee way engaged.
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Reminds me of Conception II and Mind Zero.
 
Adam Prime said:
I think the context of sitting in front of a TV playing them is unbearable. I could do these games sitting on the couch doing something else playing on Vita or PSP. Basically it needs to be a mobile type of experience where you're not all thee way engaged.
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I did mention in an earlier comment that's how I am playing through IX, but that clarification isn't given in the original argument. Unplayable seems a holistic reason, but it's one that's very personal and likely won't apply to the majority.

But - there's also a certain level of tolerance for these things, and one man's hurdle is another's pleasure.

There appears to be a need for clarification too - the time isn't that horrendous, but the game itself has always been divisive. The time issue just exacerbates what is probably already a general opinion about the game.
 
Man those VF2 trophies. So freaking easy. Got them all already. I'm totally crap at the game though :( didn't used to be too bad back in the day. Beating my ass now.
 
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