Thor is now the goddess of Thunder

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I think someone at Marvel editorial really likes the idea that Thor is the Wonder Woman of the Avengers trifecta, and asgard the marvel answer to DC's amazon.

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i doubt it will be retconned. very few things are retconned.
Sometimes, I don't think people understand what a retcon is.

You know I'm all for women superheroes and do agree that they haven't done a great job in that regard but don't change a character just to fucking change them. I'm sorry but Thor is Thor. You can't just go oh no sorry you're not Thor anymore. I'd rather them create a new character who kicks ass and happens to be a woman and Then have her take his hammer.

Hell I'd be totally ok with this if they just did not call her Thor. That simple.

Marvel can and has said "Thor is not Thor anymore" multiple times. And now they're doing it again.

And the "just create new characters!" argument always feels disingenuous because comics create new characters fairly often. The reason you don't know about them is either because most of them fail or you'd have to actually read comics to know they exist (which most of the folk in these threads don't do, ironically).
 
Valkyrie was pretty bad ass in the Defenders. She's criminally underused. Like Thor, but without compassion and a sword.
 
Eeeeeh sorta. Messier situation as it was Masterson's mind in the body/form of Thor. He was Thor in the same way that Octavius was Peter Parker for a while.

They called Masterson Thor even though he clearly wasn't the same guy. He didn't become Thunderstrike until after Thor returned.

Marvel can and has said "Thor is not Thor anymore" multiple times. And now they're doing it again.

And the "just create new characters!" argument always feels disingenuous because comics create new characters fairly often. The reason you don't know about them is either because most of them fail or you'd have to actually read comics to know they exist (which most of the folk in these threads don't do, ironically).

I think that's the thing that gets me. People who are saying "why? I don't like this thing" seem to be people who do not read the comics. They don't pick up Thor: God of Thunder, Avengers, or Avengers World.

Thor will be a woman for the foreseeable future. He was dead for years, with no title or anything. And then things will shift. That's comics. Jason Aaron is still writing the book. He's doing a good job with God of Thunder, and Marvel currently doesn't do the editorial cock-up, so this was presumably his idea. Let it ride.
 
I think someone at Marvel editorial really likes the idea that Thor is the Wonder Woman of the Avengers trifecta, and asgard the marvel answer to DC's amazon.

There is nowhere in any Marvel multiverse where Marvel has to answer to DC's anything.
 
Why do we only care about "sexual identity" in women's costumes? No one goes over Master Chief's armor and thinks, "hmmmm... not titillating enough."

We care about it for men too. It is just up until now, the 'default' was male. So unless the features were clearly so alien as to make gender moot, a character is assumed to be male unless enough of their characteristics show them to be otherwise.

It is why Samus was assumed by many to be male. In the absence of anything that suggests she is female....
 
Awesome. Anything that annoys bro comics fans is a good thing. Comics shouldn't be a boys club.

Let's see this in games, too. I want a female Kratos, a gay Marcus Fenix, a trans Lara Croft...
 
There is actually a good reason for this. Sometimes.

Depending on costume, a character design can become devoid of almost all sexual identity. This sounds good in theory, but if the character just ends up looking like a pretty dude, it can alienate the readers whom the character is meant to be identifiable to.

In the long run, 'boob plates'--especially as they are done here--do more good than harm.

I am more annoyed that they could not help but show midriff.

This is like the horrible defense Riot Games' character artists came up with to defend the fact that every female champ was rocking G cups.
 
Man you guys are so cynical. Of course, this is not going to stay but Jason Aaron has great fit with Thor so changing the status quo could be fun.

I think someone at Marvel editorial really likes the idea that Thor is the Wonder Woman of the Avengers trifecta, and asgard the marvel answer to DC's amazon.

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We care about it for men too. It is just up until now, the 'default' was male. So unless the features were clearly so alien as to make gender moot, a character is assumed to be male unless enough of their characteristics show them to be otherwise.

It is why Samus was assumed by many to be male. In the absence of anything that suggests she is female....

Samus is literally the one example anyone can usually think of. And yet, everybody still automatically thought she was a dude, despite the arguably feminine waist/hip ratio of the armor. I guess the problem is with us.
 
Awesome. Anything that annoys bro comics fans is a good thing. Comics shouldn't be a boys club.

Let's see this in games, too. I want a female Kratos, a gay Marcus Fenix, a trans Lara Croft...

What...it's like you literally ignored every post in this thread. And those suggestions are equally weird. Those are names not titles!
 
What...it's like you literally ignored every post in this thread. And those suggestions are equally weird. Those are names not titles!

I read the op. After the racist reaction to Miles Morales, I plan on ignoring all reaction to this change as much as possible just to save my own sanity. If Satan can dissolve marriages or Doc Ock can be Spider Man, a woman can be Thor.

My suggestions are awesome. :-P
 
I read the op. After the racist reaction to Miles Morales, I plan on ignoring all reaction to this change as much as possible just to save my own sanity. If Satan can dissolve marriages or Doc Ock can be Spider Man, a woman can be Thor.

My suggestions are awesome. :-P

It's funny because no one on this thread reacted in any way you thought.

Your suggestions are lazy.
 
Samus is literally the one example anyone can usually think of. And yet, everybody still automatically thought she was a dude, despite the arguably feminine waist/hip ratio of the armor. I guess the problem is with us.

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People thought/think Samus is a dude because there is pretty much no way to discern her gender while she's in suit. Especially with the original's NES graphics. I'm sure a lot of people also thought/think she's just a robot.

20 years?!
DC's last big, full universe reboot was Crisis on Infinite Earths, which came out in 1985. They've had smaller ones (namely Infinite Crisis), but as far as a wholesale wiping the slate clean like the New 52 did....yeah. You're looking at about 20-30 years.
 
..marvelman or miracle man? I do believe it is angela though , probably fall out from the original sin crossover ill have to pick up in trade.

either or is fine. i dont really care what they call him, just use the same magic they used to bring angela into 616 and do it to him. he and union jack can go around and fuck shit up
 
Don't know why everyone is getting so upset. No way this stays permanent. Think of Cap's death, Superman's death, Batman's broken back. Heck Thor's already been replaced before by Beta Ray Bill and Thunderstrike.

I'd put money on male Thor returning right around the time that Thor 3 gets it's theatrical release.
 
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People thought/think Samus is a dude because there is pretty much no way to discern her gender while she's in suit. Especially with the original's NES graphics. I'm sure a lot of people also thought/think she's just a robot.

is there a metroid cover that looked like that? ive only seen the 8 bit one
 
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People thought/think Samus is a dude because there is pretty much no way to discern her gender while she's in suit. Especially with the original's NES graphics. I'm sure a lot of people also thought/think she's just a robot.

I mean, fine. In later games, though, it was obvious to me. I guess most people still got confused, but their probable "every badass in space armor must be a dude" bias didn't help.

Also, imagine if Samus had a boob plate. Wouldn't she be a better character, simply because of how easy it would be to tell she's a girl? Right bros?
 
Don't know why everyone is getting so upset. No way this stays permanent. Think of Cap's death, Superman's death, Batman's broken back. Heck Thor's already been replaced before by Beta Ray Bill and Thunderstrike.

I'd put money on male Thor returning right around the time that Thor 3 gets it's theatrical release.

This comes up in pretty much every comic thread.

There are people who simply cannot STAND the idea of "temporary" status quo changes. They seem pissed that these things never stick and won't give the story any thought as a result. They're the kind of people that wanted Bruce and Steve and Peter to stay dead. Which is a fine opinion to have but that's not how Marvel and DC operate, and we just gotta deal with it.

I used to think this way, I would get so annoyed any time a "death" was announced or something crazy was going to happen which they would claim would "SHAKE THE FOUNDATION OF THE MARVEL/DC UNIVERSE FOREVER."

In reality, you kinda just have to roll with it, knowing that things won't stay this way, and just enjoy the ride while it lasts. Yes Marvel still puts out some shitty ass books like Age of Ultron, but you're telling me that Jason Aaron is writing a story like this and people are writing it off just because it's obvious that she won't be "Thor" forever?

I wasn't a big fan of Amazing Spider-Man "One More Day" and beyond, but Superior Spider-Man was an awesome way to shake things up and breathe new life into a series that was experiencing a funk. Granted, God of Thunder has been fantastic and I don't feel that way about it at all, but we all knew Peter was going to be coming back and that didn't lessen my enjoyment of Superior Spider-Man at all.

I have faith in what Aaron's got planned for these characters and I'm looking forward to seeing how it plays out, because it will be new and fresh. Then we can give Thor his hammer back and whoever this woman is can become her own character, having held up the mantle and honoured Thor's legacy. And she'll be way cooler for it and everyone can be happy.

At least wait until the #1 is out before you discount it entirely for things you don't even know are true yet, bros!
 
20 years?!

Quite possibly. These continuity changing line wide revamps don't come along nearly as often. Crisis on Infinite Earths was 1985, new 52 was 2011. There were some smaller less catastrophic continuity sweeps on the meantime but prior to New 52 it was still pre-crisis vs post-crisis.

But hey, you never know. Someone could decide next year it's not working out and do it all over again, just isn't likely.

They called Masterson Thor even though he clearly wasn't the same guy. He didn't become Thunderstrike until after Thor returned.
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I'm aware and I understand where you are coming from, I just have a different perspective. In Masterson we had Thor's host, changing into Thor like he always did, except not, because his mind was still Masterson. It's an entirely unique situation. They called him Thor because in a lot of ways, he was. But different.

Edit : fixed date for the new 52
 
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People thought/think Samus is a dude because there is pretty much no way to discern her gender while she's in suit. Especially with the original's NES graphics. I'm sure a lot of people also thought/think she's just a robot.


DC's last big, full universe reboot was Crisis on Infinite Earths, which came out in 1985. They've had smaller ones (namely Infinite Crisis), but as far as a wholesale wiping the slate clean like the New 52 did....yeah. You're looking at about 20-30 years.
Broad shoulders are also a male attribute. And samus has some ginourmous shoulders
 
is there a metroid cover that looked like that? ive only seen the 8 bit one

It's the cover for the GBA's "NES Classic Series" port of the original.

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I mean, fine. In later games, though, it was obvious to me. I guess most people still got confused, but their probable "every badass in space armor must be a dude" bias didn't help.

Also, imagine if Samus had a boob plate. Wouldn't she be a better character, simply because of how easy it would be to tell she's a girl? Right bros?
I mean, yeah. In later games, Nintendo stopped being coy about it because the secret was out.

Still, the whole of the character's design is that her gender is ambiguous. You still have to play a Metroid game (or Smash) to find out she's a woman. Before I played Metroid Prime, I thought she was a dude. I don't know if making her discernibly female would make her a better character since she's fine as she is and the Power Suit is a great design as is.
 
I mean, fine. In later games, though, it was obvious to me. I guess most people still got confused, but their probable "every badass in space armor must be a dude" bias didn't help.

Also, imagine if Samus had a boob plate. Wouldn't she be a better character, simply because of how easy it would be to tell she's a girl? Right bros?
You don't seem to get that this new Thor is marketed around being a girl. If you couldn't instantly tell that she's a woman this whole stunt would be pointless.
 
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