There is a difference between watching Alien in 1080p versus watching Alien in 1080P at 240hrz.
First impressions of The Last of Us: Remastered (Game Informer)
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jacksepticeye
Member
Don't be silly. Choices are great
Seriously the goofiest thing I've heard in a while.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Funny that you mention that, but a lot of older movies (Aliens included) suffered from the "peek behind the curtain" problem due to clarity of HD transfer making props look far more fake than they looked on DVD.
Get over yourself. I don't know how many times it needs repeating, but the 30FPS and grungy motion blur made a certain look to TLOU that a lot of people thought went hand in hand with the presentation of the dilapidated world in the game.
See above post.
Uno Venova
Banned
Out of all the options and choices this one just rubs me the wrong way.
giancarlo123x
Banned
How does this option effect you?
LastNac, you did not just compare native high framerates to motion interpolation, did you? I know you and I have discussed that fallacy before.
ethomaz
Banned
Not everybody feels comfortable with 60fps action scenes.
I'm really happy they give a choice for both framerate.
Not really. Developers should be forcing the objectively superior 60fps on gamers until they accept it as a standard. Don't pander to luddites.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
There is that too. People underestimate how much more nauseous 60FPS makes some people when they look fast moving camera scenes. This is especially true for someone looking at the screen while you're playing the game.
Because never settle for less. 30fps is less and therefore you shouldn't want it! Always be pushing to get the greatest of the great for a game. 60fps is that and 30fps is not and it's not acceptable to include an option for a framerate that shouldn't exist in this generation.
Am I kidding? Who knows.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Again, condescending. Tell that to people who want to puke after 10 minutes of watching me play some FPS in 60FPS.
Didn't stop Ground Zeroes from being awesome in 60fps.
Tell 'em to pop some Dramamine beforehand.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
Man some of you...
Believe it or not 60fps actually feels 'off' to some people. They now have the option to adjust to 30fps if they don't like it; stop losing your shit and being so pretentious.
Believe it or not 60fps actually feels 'off' to some people. They now have the option to adjust to 30fps if they don't like it; stop losing your shit and being so pretentious.
Because its unnecessary, and only further propagates the misconception that there might be something better about 30fps. This kind of sillyness is why it took forever to get people to understand and embrace widescreen movies instead of the "standard edition".
How does it feel "off"? That doesn't make any sense to me how someone can dislike a superior format for playing games.
Yet cod is the most populated franchise right now and people seem to be fine with 60fps.
I think in this case of this *Remaster* the argument can be made that the option legitimizes technically handicapping what is intended to be an improved experience and further legitimizes the acceptance of games with poorer performance. So I can see why people might not want it in. If it was a brand new game, they might not feel that way as much. I also disagree that running at 60 will negate the grittiness at all. It will make the animation smoother, which will highlight the fantastic animation in this game. So it could very well make it feel more "visceral'.
Controller input delay is independent of framerate.
Night Hunter
Banned
TLOU2 reveal is going to kill gaff.
There is nothing wrong with this getting GOTY awards if said person did not play the PS3 version in 2013.
Now, if they did play it, then yes, it's stupid.
Sheeeeeeeeet, I know it'll be easier to hit those zombies at 60 frames than it was at 22.
Uno Venova
Banned
i'm trying to think of more condecending insults to people who don't see the importance of 60FPS like I do.
how do you guys feel about "slow"?
how do you guys feel about "slow"?
tringworldso
Member
Haha
LastNac caught by RoboPlato again lol
LastNac and I actually chat a lot off of GAF. I'm just giving him a hard time.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
It making sense to you is irrelevant of the perception and enjoyment of the medium to others. Hell, even one of the ND devs stated that they preferred the game at 30fps.
Jules Coast
Member
Can we just get a damn gameplay video? Is it too much to ask?
Naughty Gods status revoked.
Did they? I know a few said they were skeptical of TLoU at 60 but were converted once they played it.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Digital foundry analysis should be interesting.
Not directly, no. My point is, something's definition is not the same as its motion.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Man, only on GAF do you see folks going nuts over other people having a choice to play the game how they want it.
Unless there is some kind of visual boost at 30 I'm sure FR ups and downs is what it is. [We could be wrong of course]. Hmm I wonder cross gen assets and code is an issue.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Sounds great. 700 posts already? Concern is high lol
Not surprised this happened. Makng something out of nothing.
Not surprised this happened. Makng something out of nothing.
Doesn't a game need to be running north of 70fps and maybe closer to 80fps before you're able to provide a stable 60fps lock? I just don't see that happening very much at all this gen.
Especially for a game that originally targeted 30fps. They're trying to make this edition look head-and-shoulders above the PS3 version. Making it run 75fps locked to 60 would mean less visual upgrade. I guess they could use variable resolutions to maintain 60. But it would lose visual pop at random times.
Well when the medium should be aiming at 60fps it is relevant.
giancarlo123x
Banned
In no later than 13 days you'll get some, I bet my gaf account on it.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
It would be negative if the choice was presented at the beginning?
ethomaz
Banned
This is a good example...
Snake running feels off and unnatural in 60fps compared with 30fps.
The game is amazing but I noted this awkward comparing the 30fps vs 60fps.
I'm glad they're putting a 30 fps option in. I'll try it both ways, and pick whichever I like the feel of more. Sometimes I'm okay with 60, but 60 can just make some games feel off, or janky.
Probably doesn't help at all that low budget shows are filmed at 60 fps in the US, and higher budget shows are recorded at 30. Might be why I think 30 looks better (sometimes).
Probably doesn't help at all that low budget shows are filmed at 60 fps in the US, and higher budget shows are recorded at 30. Might be why I think 30 looks better (sometimes).