IntelliHeath
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Addition? I'm pretty sure that it was in the franchise ever since first one.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!
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Addition? I'm pretty sure that it was in the franchise ever since first one.
This I agree with. Heck, I actually kind of like the dynamic platforms of Coliseum, but the level is a walk off and I don't love those. Of course, the FD version of the stage doesn't feature the platforms.
But what ya gonna do?
Red Arremer
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Cool of you bring this up from over 20 pages ago, since then we already have completed this discussion. And no. It didn't introduce time travel. ALttP did that with the switching between light and dark worlds, even though you didn't play as differently aged Links.
Introducing Ganondorf and splitting the timeline aren't great achievements, and I would even argue it was also ALttP that split the timeline before OoT, as it was the first game to tell Link's and Zelda's story anew, and change Link's origins.
sorakirosaki
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i thought screen ko's in the older games didnt show their faces :T
i dont remeber 64's but melee's always seemed to have their back turned, brawls as well (although i saw a pic with peach facing the front so...)
i kinda like smash 4's version since it gives people enough time to see it instead of just a milisecond glance the other games had lol
Hot Coldman
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Did I just watch a Dragon Ball Z fight?
I still don't get the point of FD versions of all stages.
They should have done Neutral versions of all stages, just remove all the hazards and if it's a walk off or a moving stage just make it like a normal stage.
If every stage is FD, there's no actual difference between any of them so you may as well have just left it as FD only at that point.
People talk about proper alt costumes being a waste of time and resources but the FD stage versions definitely are.
They should have done Neutral versions of all stages, just remove all the hazards and if it's a walk off or a moving stage just make it like a normal stage.
If every stage is FD, there's no actual difference between any of them so you may as well have just left it as FD only at that point.
People talk about proper alt costumes being a waste of time and resources but the FD stage versions definitely are.
The12thGripper
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I had a dream where my friend had a build of Smash Wii U and Lucas was playable. I cried.
Source?
Source?
Red Arremer
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It was a fairly ambitious project, and the lead programmer (who was also the guy who came up with the idea) kinda vanished into thin air.
Basically, we wanted to make a MUGEN-type engine, just using Smash Bros.'s fighting game mechanics instead of the regular flat stage with health bars. We would've given people the options to make their own fighters and whatnot, of course, but we also would've made an own set of characters, which was what I was responsible for.
pray for the Battlefield For Glory skin options
no no no platforms are for fun.
there's no glory in platforms.
Yes
None of Smash is very well balanced (including PM). Some people just like throwing a fit. And if we wanted to get really persnickety about it, it is true, you can only achieve perfect balance if all the contestants are equal (the same).
Maybe to simplify balance for the game they decided that 'for glory' would only use final destination so that all (or) characters could be balanced for that mode rather than trying to balance for all stages, modes, etc. You can't use knowledge of how past smash bros work to make a decision about how final destination will play out in smash 4.
That said, I agree with you, but I'm sure sakurai had a reason, and it's probably just simplicity.
Here's a quick guide to what's viable and what isn't:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz96eSYdFvc
not really, but it's funny!
That would be incredible if they made neutral versions of all the stages.
But they aren't doing that, so let's just look on the bright side. At least now we can actually enjoy the scenery of otherwise terrible stages.
Fun Fact (Kinda FE:A Spoilers): If you have Robin marry Lucina,
In the Spring Scramble DLC, if the match above is a thing,
Chrom proves himself as the Ultimate Bro by being cool with it later in the game, despite the act being a direct violation of the Bro Code. You also effectively make Chrom a grandfather when you recruit Morgan.
In the Spring Scramble DLC, if the match above is a thing,
Robin is implied to live in fear of Chrom seeing him & Lucina together.
They don't actually face splat do they?
IntelliHeath
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Well, Melee and Brawl: they hit the screen for millisecond then tumbled down. Yeah, they slow down the animation for SSB4.
JediLink
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For the record, I still fully intend to buy the Wii U version day one and give it the fairest chance I possibly can. At the moment, all we have to go on is what Sakurai gives us.
I think your fundamental misconception here is that you believe Melee was an accident. People always assume, "Oh, it's just a party game", and often draw comparisons with Mario Kart and Mario Party in the sense that it's not meant to be played seriously. The truth is, it was never like that. There's a mechanic where if you ever so gently tilt the control stick while shielding, you can angle your shield to better cover the exposed parts of your hurtbox. Now, who's ever going use that mechanic, except for in higher level skilled play? Melee wasn't ever just a party game - it was a fighting game, with all the depth of a fighting game, but a tiny barrier of entry. That's why it appealed to everyone.
Brawl was a bit different, of course. I'm not going to go into everything that was different about it as it's been done to death over the past six years, but the point is that with Brawl, Sakurai wanted everyone to win. That's what was different about his mentality.
Yeah, well, it's still balanced a hell of a lot more balanced than Brawl is. Brawl is rampant with problems that indicate minimal or underqualified playtesting, with Snake's hitboxes being perhaps one of the most easily noticeable examples.
EDIT: Whoa, apparently a whole page went by while I was typing that. Slow down, guys.
That seems more like they're bouncing off the screen. This Smash seems like they're going splat against it and then sliding off.
Red Arremer
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Beyond Meta Knight, Brawl's top/high/mid tiers are significantly bigger than Melee's, and that's not only on virtue of there being more characters.
Brawl's low/bottom tier is smaller than Melee's.
Joe Prodigy
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Haha. Nice.
Does anyone have a collection of all the "For Fun/For _______" photoshops? There have been so many
Still so good <3 <3 <3 D1
Still so good <3 <3 <3 D1
Gotta love D1! XD
Also maybe the Elite 4 stage on Wii U could be viable, but we haven't seen enough of that stage to say.
IntelliHeath
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I already mentioned that in my original post. They tumbled in Melee and Brawl.
I'm just saying that you said addition when it already exists in the franchise but yeah, they finally changed the animation and screen KO style which made it even much better.
kuroneko0509
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lmao
now THIS is a DBZ fighting game.
balladofwindfishes
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Brawl stages on the 3DS?
I think it could work, there's a lot of them I think wouldn't tax the system too hard.
- Luigi's Mansion (although I think Dark Moon will get its own stage)
- Bridge of Eldin (the background could just be a static image, no need for it to be totally rendered on the 3DS)
- Wario Ware (although I think Wario Ware will have a big presence on the 3DS due to it being a portable series)
- Distant Planet (probably the easiest port, the background can 100% be a static image, it may have even been in Brawl, I couldn't tell)
- Smashville (another one I think will probably happen)
- 75M (terrible level, easy to port)
- Mario Bros (see 75M)
- Pictochat (it would be silly not to include this on the portable version of the game)
- Hanebow (easy level, doesn't even require music)
- Green Hill Zone (a "big" level detail wise, but I think it's doable)
Stuff like Delphino, Port Town and New Pork City are out of the question imo.
I think it could work, there's a lot of them I think wouldn't tax the system too hard.
- Luigi's Mansion (although I think Dark Moon will get its own stage)
- Bridge of Eldin (the background could just be a static image, no need for it to be totally rendered on the 3DS)
- Wario Ware (although I think Wario Ware will have a big presence on the 3DS due to it being a portable series)
- Distant Planet (probably the easiest port, the background can 100% be a static image, it may have even been in Brawl, I couldn't tell)
- Smashville (another one I think will probably happen)
- 75M (terrible level, easy to port)
- Mario Bros (see 75M)
- Pictochat (it would be silly not to include this on the portable version of the game)
- Hanebow (easy level, doesn't even require music)
- Green Hill Zone (a "big" level detail wise, but I think it's doable)
Stuff like Delphino, Port Town and New Pork City are out of the question imo.
Ah, I didn't see it. Guess so.
I'm of the mindset that brawl stages will be on Wii U and melee/64 stages will be on 3DS. I'd love to see them cross over, though. We'll see!
Also:
Why? 3DS has Rainbow road and lumiose city, those 3 shouldn't be that bad.
Holy duck on a crap, that was amazing.
Oh my god
balladofwindfishes
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With "light" stuff like Distant Planet and bridge of Eldin available, I don't see why not.
I don't expect 64 levels on the WiiU, but do on the 3DS. But I expect all three series on the 3DS, and Melee/Brawl on the WiiU. 64 stages will look... off on the WiiU.
New Pork doesn't seem like it would work on a small screen at all.
Same for Port Town, that level was even a bit hectic on the Wii, let alone a tiny screen.
A lot of us aren't actively seeking out smash bros TAS, no. I've seen some, but never one that also features a super-cancel version of brawl.
Edit: Lucina is Inigo Montoya confirmed.
Tables Turn, The Won-Stoppable Wonderful 101 and Final Vorkken Battle would be godlike to have in the game's rotation.
Fun fact, this video and the Melee "L Canceled Everything" video were the inspirations the Project M Backroom had when developing Turbo Mode.
Tables Turn, The Won-Stoppable Wonderful 101 and Final Vorkken Battle would be godlike to have in the game's rotation.
Fun fact, this video and the Melee "L Canceled Everything" video were the inspirations the Project M Backroom had when developing Turbo Mode.
Alright, I know SS already got a stage, but we need to talk about how cool a Lanayru Desert stage could be. You could do the desert itself, Lanayru Mining Facility, or Sandship, but all would revolve around timeshift stones. It'd just be cool to have a level that was completely static until someone hits a timeshift stone and the level comes alive. There's a couple of interesting things you could do with it.
Won't happen, but it's still a neat thought.
A Dark Aether (metroid prime 2) stage could also have a silly "light pocket" gimmick, but no one would probably like that.
Won't happen, but it's still a neat thought.
A Dark Aether (metroid prime 2) stage could also have a silly "light pocket" gimmick, but no one would probably like that.
I think Sakurai donated a large part of his fortune to charity or something
I think my favorite part about that is in the S-support Robin is like
"I tried REALLY HARD not to fall in love with you, but it DIDN'T WORK D:"
Pic of the day. Here's a Screen K.O. shot. There are also patterns where players will disappear into the sky for Star K.O.s, but as a match's time limit approaches, those K.O.s will not occur anymore.
Cool
No more absurd wins
InvincibleAgent
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It's from 18 hours ago. I recently got home from my 12 hour shift. The 7 hours before were dedicated to sleeping. When the thread moves as fast as this one, 30 pages go by quickly. I have to get caught up.
Authority is not given to you to deny further comments. And I said time-travel, not sequels or alternate realms.
Oh, nice idea. Also silent realm too pls. Everyone gets that special glow when they're playing there. Have guardians in the background that jump in to attack every now and then.
I guess Chrom respected Robin's efforts. And hey, better your best friend who you know you can trust than some other guy.
I think this topic came up several threads ago as well. Definitely something I'd like to see.
I dislike the idea of not having atleast a couple of stages from all past games on each version but they will look off.
They looked off in Brawl as well, it's why I think they should remodel the stages instead of just straight up porting them, but that's not going to happen.
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