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[Mammoth Jones]

Disgusting. Wtf was that guy with the chokehold fucking thinking? Fucking scum.

He was thinking that is a big ass dude and only way to take him down is choke him out. Unfortunately not everyone responds to choke holds the same way. Some people have asthma. Some people's carotid arteries don't open back up even after you let go of a choke.

Notice how he puts his palms OUT. Repeatedly. Dude isn't trying to fight back. He's trying to show he's not a threat. I've done the same thing each and every time a police officer approaches me or pulls me over...etc. I didn't even learn to do that from someone else. Just comes natural when you know the cops jus tlooking for any excuse to bust you up. If he wanted to fight back that video would have shown alot more movement especially considering his size.

The cops anticipated he'd fight back so they went with overwhelming force. A poor assumption.

As a large Black man this scares the shit out of me. Doubly so since I'm in NYC right now. Ugh.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

I think theres a serious difference between being harassed by an asshole, and being arrested forcefully by the asshole.

Which is why I've said multiple times on one page that it's not nearly as bad for white people as it is for a minority. Just that the statement

If you're white you've got nothing to worry about from the police.

isn't true. I have no doubt that if I didn't comply with everything the cops were saying when I was being frisked, or when I was explaining to them how I wasn't in a neighborhood buying drugs, I would have been arrested forcefully as well.

 

[esterk]

Jesus. The guy literally repeated 'i can't breathe' at least 5 or 6 times and the cops didn't give a shit. Obviously he was a little over aggressive at first but that's no excuse for how they treated him. Awful.

 

[psychotron]

That guy showed no aggression at all, and was basically begging them to let go so he could breathe. He was loud at first but when they grabbed him he didn't fight back. I'm usually quiet about these kinds of things, but that man was straight up murdered.

 

[J10]

Which is why I've said multiple times on one page that it's not nearly as bad for white people as it is for a minority. Just that the statement



isn't true. I have no doubt that if I didn't comply with everything the cops were saying when I was being frisked, or when I was explaining to them how I wasn't in a neighborhood buying drugs, I would have been arrested forcefully as well.

Enough with the me too bullshit. Nobody gives a fuck.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Only reason they do what they do is because we tolerate it.

 

[SolarPowered]

Been living in NYC for 24 years and the only thing I feared nearly as much as gangs was getting on the wrong side of a police officer's mood. The decent cops are great to have around, but dying a wrongful death like this has to be one of the worst ways to go in a civilized society.

Damn... RIP

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Enough with the me too bullshit. Nobody gives a fuck.

Backseat modding is bannable. If you don't like what I'm saying just move on and mind your own business. I give a fuck about what I'm saying, and I'm not saying anything wrong.

 

[theignoramus]

seems they swarmed him because he was big, black, and they were expecting him to put up a fight. vintage racial profiling

 

[ironmang]

That guy showed no aggression at all, and was basically begging them to let go so he could breathe. He was loud at first but when they grabbed him he didn't fight back. I'm usually quiet about these kinds of things, but that man was straight up murdered.

Exactly. Being loud or yelling shouldn't be a greenlight to use physical force. Trained cops should be able to calm someone down without killing them.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Jesus. The guy literally repeated 'i can't breathe' at least 5 or 6 times and the cops didn't give a shit. Obviously he was a little over aggressive at first but that's no excuse for how they treated him. Awful.

Why do you say that? He had his hands out and in the open and his palms up as Mammoth noticed.

He was upset, but where does he come off "aggressive"?

IF anything he's more cooperative than most people should be surrounded by cops.

 

[CREMSteve]

Disgusting video. How this can continue to happen is beyond me.

What bothers me most, is that police are allowed to forcibly push everyone else away while this is going on.

Even if I wanted to jump in and help this poor man, I couldn't. Look at how casual the cameraman is, he's watching a murder but the system is set up in a way that the public can't even intervene.

This system is messed up something fierce.


Don't you dare step in and try to intervene or I have the power to lock you up for life. No one should have that kind of power, it's bullshit.

 

[zeemumu]

How do you get from "breaking up a fight" to "untaxed cigarettes"?

 

[BronsonLee]

Backseat modding is bannable.

That is not what he was doing.

I've been following this one since yesterday. He was in an argument with them, sure, but they were 1000% the aggressors in the situation and could not have handled it in a worse manner. Once they swarmed him I didn't see anything resembling resistance, or anything to justify any sort of force, much less that.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

The police is the US are more like a gang than anything else.

 

[May16]

That guy ... was basically begging them to let go so he could breathe.

With such lofty demands, what did he...

I...
I can't even finish a joke.

The police are the most dangerous gang America. Fuck the "war on drugs," forget illegal immigrants "takin' our jabs" that supposedly need to be deported or whatever, to hell with a lot of things... people in power have really gotta do something about police brutality. All the stinking time, cops are beating and killing innocent people -- or people who didn't deserve to be fucking killed -- and getting what amounts to vacation time for it. Disgusting.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

That is not what he was doing.

I've been following this one since yesterday. He was in an argument with them, sure, but they were 1000% the aggressors in the situation and could not have handled it in a worse manner. Once they swarmed him I didn't see anything resembling resistance, or anything to justify any sort of force, much less that.

I've been threatened with bannings by a Mod for giving lighter suggestions of how people should post.

Hell, I've been banned for saying less and being less rude then he's being as well.

 

[elrechazado]

Oh man he was screaming he couldn't get air fucking cops fuck you

That's what all the criminals say. The cops can't be expected to take one seriously. As long as they tell the dirty criminal to stop resisting they are justified in whatever they do

 

[sonicfan]

W....T.....F????

Were the cops upset that the guy didn't have a dog they could shoot first?

Oh well, at least the cops all got home safely that night, that's the important thing..... /sarc

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

NYPD isn't representative of the average police force in this land, but wow, this is gang-level activity. A more proactive nation would create an investigative committee and shield the attached representatives from any lobbyist or police-related interests that wouldn't want the force to be broken apart on these grounds.

 

[Infinite]

I've been threatened with bannings by a Mod for giving lighter suggestions of how people should post.

Hell, I've been banned for saying less and being less rude then he's being as well.

He wasn't backseat modding. Cops unfairly target minorities, by injecting your "me too" into the conservation you are attempting to argue against that fact whether you realize it or not.

 

[Two Words]

It's not a ridiculous statement actually. Police brutality is systemic; things like this happen because on a institutional level they are allowed to happen.

Do you think that more than 50% of police officers are bad? If not, then he's right.

If you had to put a guessing percentage, what would you think it is?

 

[MikeDown]

fuck those guys, don't they have better things to do then going after untaxed cigarettes anyway. fucking disgusting

 

[JimiNutz]

Fuck.
Cops have a hard enough job as it is without stupid colleagues like this ruining the reputation of the NYPD and thus making the good cops jobs even harder.

I hate reading about this shit.

 

[Infinite]

Do you think that more than 50% of police officers are bad? If not, then he's right.

If you had to put a guessing percentage, what would you think it is?

I'm not talking about individual morality; who's a good cop and who's a bad cop doesn't matter. Police brutality is institutionalized ie the bad cops are encourage to do shit like this and can get away with it because the institution is fucked up.

 

[DC R1D3R]

to live and die in new york…..tut tut tut

godspeed brother!

 

[Nokterian]

That's what all the criminals say. The cops can't be expected to take one seriously. As long as they tell the dirty criminal to stop resisting they are justified in whatever they do

Did you not read the OP? It was not a criminal they killed a civilian. And fuck you saying it's ok to kill someone like that.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

He wasn't backseat modding. Cops unfairly target minorities, by injecting your "me too" into the conservation you are attempting to argue against that fact whether you realize it or not.

No it doesn't. Especially when I've said multiple times that it's worse for minorities. Saying something happens to another group of people in no way belittles the level that's it's happening at for others.

 

[Barbacoatl]

Fuck.
Cops have a hard enough job as it is without stupid colleagues like this ruining the reputation of the NYPD and thus making the good cops jobs even harder.

I hate reading about this shit.

Ruining nypd's reputation is a self inflicted task that's been going on for what seems decades.

 

[Infinite]

No it doesn't. Especially when I've said multiple times that it's worse for minorities. Saying something happens to another group of people in no way belittles the level that's it's happening at for others.

All that goes without saying so why even bring it up in the way you did? Think about this for a second.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

All that goes without saying so why even bring it up in the way you did? Think about this for a second.

Because someone said:

If you're white you've got nothing to worry about from the police.

I responded by simply saying:

Less for sure. But not nothing.

That's how it got brought up. Someone literally said what you're saying goes without saying.

 

[elrechazado]

Did you not read the OP? It was not a criminal they killed a civilian. And fuck you saying it's ok to kill someone like that.

Sigh....

 

[commish]

Because someone said that if you're white in America that you have no problem with the cops. I responded by simply saying

I hate when people do this. No one is saying that, literally, white folks never (never, as in, 0.00000% of the time) have a problem with police, ever. Yes, we get your point.

 

[Instro]

If the "good" cops are either unable or unwilling to pursue justice when it comes to their fellows then there are no good cops.

I feel like the blue wall issue is largely seen in major city police forces like NYPD and LAPD, where this sort of aggression and/or incompetence is more prevalent and often appears to be handled poorly.

 

[Infinite]

Because someone said:


I responded by simply saying:



That's how it got brought up. Someone literally said what you're saying goes without saying.

I hate when people do this. No one is saying that, literally, white folks never (never, as in, 0.00000% of the time) have a problem with police, ever. Yes, we get your point.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

I hate when people do this. No one is saying that, literally, white folks never (never, as in, 0.00000% of the time) have a problem with police, ever. Yes, we get your point.

Shouldn't you hate the people being hyperbolic and shitting up the conversation more then the person trying to correct them?

 

[fluffydelusions]

Cops get away with a ton of shit. My old landlord was NYPD...he told me some crazy stuff. I remember I took a drive with one time to help him with something. He went to down a BUSY one way the wrong way making cars get out his way...shit was crazy

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

I'm not going to NY and I'm staying away from cops all my fucking life.

Fucking scary.

 

[justjohn]

Shouldn't you hate the people being hyperbolic and shitting up the conversation more then the person trying to correct them?

Stop shitting up this thread.

 

[BronsonLee]

Sigh....

Too subtle, mang

Shouldn't you hate the people being hyperbolic and shitting up the conversation more then the person trying to correct them?

...Which one do you think you are right now?

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Sigh....

lol..more transparent, please!!!

 

[Timedog]

Zen arcade didn't say anything wrong or untrue and he agrees with you guys I think we should move on from petty arguing about his comment.

 

[manhack]

Absolutely disgusting and heartbreaking

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Stop shitting up this thread.

I would have a long time ago if people didn't feel the need to throw statistics at me for saying that sometimes white people get harassed by police. Everything could have easily just been left at.

Less for sure. But not nothing.

Which is a pretty inoffensive and benign statement in the first place.

Zen arcade didn't say anything wrong or untrue and he agrees with you guys I think we should move on from petty arguing about his comment.

Pretty much. It was never supposed to start an argument in the first place.

 

[OriginalNameGuy]

This behavior is all too common, sadly. How many people need to get hospitalised or worse before the 'bad apple' narrative goes away?

 

[muu]

What kind of system is in place here such that the shitty cops keep getting breaks at the expense of every one of their force due to a tarnished image which could make EVERY encounter more difficult? Aside from the asshole cops on the road thinking they can speed/tailgate/do whatever the fuck they want since they're the law, every LEO I've interacted with has been courteous, professional folks who were definitely out there to help us. This stuff is absolutely terrible, but it affects those other cops more than anything else. How can their blood not be boiling knowing their "brothers" pulled this kind of shit?

Of course, I've never lived in LA, NY and other big metropolitan areas so perhaps I've just been lucky to live in areas that have a decent police force top to bottom.

 

[commish]

Pretty much. It was never supposed to start an argument in the first place.

Then why do you feel the need to keep dragging it out by constantly posting about it? Okay, you're right, some white people get harassed too. Good point. Now let's move on.

 

[DigitalRicket]

Truly frightening. I've seen too many of these situations where people are being subdued to death. There needs to be proper training on how to detain suspected individuals in a humane manner without the need of excessive force. We live in 2014. Someone figure this out before more innocent people get killed.

 

[Nabs]

ugh. RIP.

 

[Mackenzie 92]

Sickening. You can hear how scared he is.