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[QaaQer]

I don't know if it is entirely fair to judge things based on a beta vs 2 full games, but when has the internet ever been fair.

COOP FUN:

Imo, Borderlands is more fun. The world colourful (literally and figuratively), humorous, and filled with interesting stuff. Firing up Destiny, you get Dinklage telling you to go here, kill that, & leave. Its lore is dry and utterly humourless.

LOOT:

Borderlands wins here as well, and it comes down to how they set things up with their random loot generating algorithm, with millions of possibilities. It was great fun opening boxes. B also had better lore behind the weapons.

CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

Again, I have to go with BLs here, and basically only for one reason: COOP character = PvP character.

The good PvP gear in Destiny, which you absolutely require if you don't want to get one-shoted and cause your team to lose everytime, is entirely separate from the COOP gear.

This makes it like two separate games because your coop character /= your pvp character. That is a terrible decision to make when people are spending dozens of hours levelling and customizing a character. It prevents the attachment to the character and gear that occurred in BL for me.

PVP FUN

In Borderlands, it pretty much was just an extension of the game. You dueled other players with you character. It added some fun and excitement, but it wasn't particularly fleshed out or extensive.

Destiny's PvP looks to be quite separate from the game, as described above. I found it unfun because the separation of coop character and pvp character, and the necessity of grinding for pvp gear.

I just want one character.

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Here is a quote Joe Staten, Destiny's creative lead describing what he sees as the differences:

When we look at a game like that [borderlands], we look at the things they’re doing well and also at opportunities they might have missed that we can capitalise on. You can party up with a group of people and then go around with that group, but never in Borderlands are you going to collide with a group of other people doing it too. We don’t do that just once or twice in the game, we do that all the time, everywhere. You see other people on the horizon, hear gunfire over a hill and see space magic flying behind some trees, and you know… there are other people out here, that [changes everything]. Borderlands right now is: ‘I’m going to walk into that space and we’re going to clear them out and keep going’. And frankly that’s not just Borderlands, that’s any co-op shooter.

I think we did two things well with the Halo games. One, we told a story that you can play by yourself or with a small group of friends. And two, we made a great hardcore, competitive game. Between those two choices we tried to do other things – Firefight, for example – but the options are very slim, and I think that’s true for most shooters.

Between those two poles there’s a vast gulf of opportunities but a lack of choices. We want to very carefully bring those two communities together and open up those choices.

In Halo...We planned for an eight-hour experience then, two years later, figured out another eight-hour experience. This time we’re thinking about how you grow and evolve this world over many years, many hours. It’s a whole different mindset.

 

[Hoo-doo]

I haven't enjoyed a single Borderlands game, yet I played over 15 hours of a goddamn 4-mission Destiny beta.

The gulf in quality is vast.

 

[BigTnaples]

Um...

 

[Straid]

You're comparing a beta with a full game.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I also dislike borderlands and could never get into it but Destiny sold me on the Alpha.

 

[Silky]

Destiny is more Phantasy Star than Borderlands' Diablo influences.

Love both. Completely different games.

 

[nomis]

Randy? Is that you?

 

[Wensih]

I haven't enjoyed a single Borderlands game, yet I played over 15 hours of a goddamn 4-mission Destiny beta.

The gulf in quality is vast.

How so? You never touched one of the games. You can't make a comparison in quality.

EDIT: I misread haven't enjoyed as haven't touched, my apologies.

 

[renitou]

You're right - comparing two full games to a beta is a dumb idea.

For what it's worth, I've enjoyed the actual shooting in Destiny a lot more than what was in Borderlands. That counts for a lot in a game whose main verb is "shoot."

 

[Hoo-doo]

How so? You never touched one of the games. You can't make a comparison.

I have played Borderlands 1 and 2 both (although not to completetion, obviously). I just did not enjoy them at all.

It's the hideous art style and zanyness of the entire franchise that makes me want to go: "nah, i'm good".

 

[InFamousRaiden]

Came to the similar conclusion.

Borderlands 2 at least presents a colorful world where you want to go SOLO and pass some time.


Pre-Order cancelled.

 

[Ikuu]

I haven't enjoyed a single Borderlands game, yet I played over 15 hours of a goddamn 4-mission Destiny beta.

The gulf in quality is vast.

I haven't played Destiny, but Borderlands 2 is a much better game.

 

[Vanillalite]

Destiny is more Phantasy Star than Borderlands' Diablo influences.

Love both. Completely different games.

I'd agree with this. Also makes sense since I was a huge PSO fan back in the day, and now I'm digging Destiny.

 

[IHaveIce]

Borderlands is better on the loot, fun and so far ( keep in mind Destiny is only in beta) feels just better in PVE. The classes ate also way more different.

Borderlands has no PVP but Destiny's pvp is unbalanced nonsense and doesn't get any winning points.


Destiny though feels more epic and a way better artstyle and artdirection, it also will be more serious but feels already corny in some dialogues.


So I would be more happy about a next gen Borderlands/ Borderworlds than about Destiny.

 

[Revolutionary]

So you didn't read the responses to your PvP complaints in OT1, I see.

 

[Wensih]

I have played Borderlands 1 and 2 both. I just did not enjoy them at all.

It's the hideous art style and zanyness of the entire franchise that makes me want to go: "nah, i'm good".

My apologies. I misread. I thought you said you haven't touched, not haven't enjoyed. I'm sorry for my poor reading comprehension at the moment.

 

[Ocelott]

I haven't played Destiny, but Borderlands 2 is a much better game.

What is going on here?

 

[Silky]

Came to the similar conclusion.

Borderlands 2 at least presents a colorful world where you want to go SOLO and pass some time.


Pre-Order cancelled.

But solo Borderlands is boring.

Borderlands is better on the loot, fun and so far ( keep in mind Destiny is only in beta) feels just better in PVE. The classes ate also way more different.

Borderlands has no PVP but Destiny's pvp is unbalanced nonsense and doesn't get any winning points.


Destiny though feels more epic and a way better artstyle and artdirection, it also will be more serious but feels already corny in some dialogues.


So I would be more happy about a next gen Borderlands/ Borderworlds than about Destiny.

Borderlands has PvP.

 

[oti]

I've played ~3h BL1 in Singleplayer and ~5h BL2 multiplayer coop.

Destiny all day, every day.

 

[BigDug13]

Borderlands has PvP.

It's terribly balanced and not at all designed for it.

 

[Kouriozan]

I hate PvP and that's probably why I don't like 90% of the shooters since last gen, they all had strong focus on multiplayer PvP.
Borderlands is one of those rare shooter I could enjoy, so I'll try Destiny someday but if PvP is a big part of the game, then goodbye.

 

[SolsticeZero]

LOL at people comparing a beta to a full, released game.

 

[Dragon]

Obviously subjective like the OP:

Got Borderlands for free, bought B2 on Steam for like 10 bucks. Haven't played either of one of them. Played five hours of PvP Destiny last night with GAF peeps and holy shit is the game fun as hell.

I hate PvP and that's probably why I don't like 90% of the shooters since last gen, they all had strong focus on multiplayer PvP.
Borderlands is one of those rare shooter I could enjoy, so I'll try Destiny someday but if PvP is a big part of the game, then goodbye.

You're going to miss out on stuff but who cares? You can play essentially with two other people and do all the missions in the game.

 

[Slixshot]

I haven't enjoyed a single Borderlands game, yet I played over 15 hours of a goddamn 4-mission Destiny beta.

The gulf in quality is vast.

While I've enjoyed Borderlands before, I agree with you that the Destiny Beta is by far a much more enjoyable experience. The game feels lightyears ahead of anything I've ever played in Borderlands and the artstyle is nicer (Borderlands never really impressed me). Don't get me started bout dat score either.

 

[Silky]

It's terribly balanced and not at all designed for it.

Just like The Crucible!

Destiny is really a PvE game. PvP is horribly balanced so far.

I hate PvP and that's probably why I don't like 90% of the shooters since last gen, they all had strong focus on multiplayer PvP.
Borderlands is one of those rare shooter I could enjoy, so I'll try Destiny someday but if PvP is a big part of the game, then goodbye.

It really isn't.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

What an awfully strange thread. You're comparing a series with multiple games in it to a beta. Do you see what you're doing wrong there?

 

[Alcoholikaust]

The only thing Borderlands does better is the loot system.

edit:but yeah a demo compared to 2 full games is silly

 

[Norns]

Let's compare full retail products to limited betas of other products. Yeah!

 

[funkystudent]

I think Destiny has a long way to go with its quest system.

All that back tracking to the tower. Having explore + Story be its own separate things. No optional side objectives in quests outside of playing it on a harder difficulty etc...

Borderlands felt more seamless. Hopefully Bungie get there with that stuff later in the series.


Other then that I prefer just about everything in Destiny.

 

[QaaQer]

What an awfully strange thread. You're comparing a series with multiple games in it to a beta. Do you see what you're doing wrong there?

fill me in.

 

[Pixel Beak]

Borderlands can be completed from start to finish by a single player.

Destiny can not. And will not be purchased by me becaus of this.

 

[Karl Hawk]

Borderlands can be completed from start to finish by a single player.

Destiny can not. And will not be purchased by me becaus of this.

Actually, you can complete the story mode on your own. Unless you mean an offline mode, then sorry, no can do.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

I haven't enjoyed a single Borderlands game, yet I played over 15 hours of a goddamn 4-mission Destiny beta.

The gulf in quality is vast.

First post nails it. I've always found Borderlands quite uninspiring but I am loving what I've played of Destiny so far.

 

[ElFly]

I own Borderlands 1 and abandoned it after four hours, swearing off that boring, boring, boring game.

Destiny Beta has problems, mainly the AI, but the game is far more interesting than Borderlands.

I'll take Destiny dry scifi over BL """"""""""humor"""""""""" everyday.

 

[Silky]

Borderlands can be completed from start to finish by a single player.

Destiny can not. And will not be purchased by me becaus of this.

Story Mode doesn't require two people to complete? Just like Dark Souls doesn't.

Just say you're not buying an online only game because this idea of destiny being unplayable solo is not true.

 

[Pixel Beak]

Actually, you can complete the story mode on your own.

Really? I was told that there are parts that actually require multiple players, or you can't beat them.

I'd pick it up if you can truly play through it by yourself though (Not a co-op fan).

 

[QaaQer]

Really? I was told that there are parts that actually require multiple players, or you can't beat them.

I'd pick it up if you can truly play through it by yourself though (Not a co-op fan).

The coop parts offer different difficulties as well, which makes soloing easier.

Although, technically you are never alone in the game as there are always other people in the same instance running around.

 

[ObiDin]

Why can't we have both? I loved Borderlands 1 & 2 for the craziness and the gun porn, but am looking forward to destiny due to Bungies world building and overall quality...and space magic.

 

[tbm24]

Story Mode doesn't require two people to complete? Just like Dark Souls doesn't.

Just say you're not buying an online only game because this idea of destiny being unplayable solo is not true.

They is a mission in the BETA that links you with 2 other Guardians if you don't already have a fireteam and from the multiple times I've done that mission at this point, trying to do it Solo is unfeasible. I don't know if these missions are one off things or considered part of the main game/story, but I'd imagine it is.

 

[Y0j1mb0]

I haven't played Destiny, but Borderlands 2 is a much better game.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

i didnt like borderlands, enough said.

but to add more to that i just fell the game was boring after a while also it lacks the AAA polish Destiny oozes

 

[Silky]

They is a mission in the BETA that links you with 2 other Guardians if you don't already have a fireteam and from the multiple times I've done that mission at this point, trying to do it Solo is unfeasible. I don't know if these missions are one off things or considered part of the main game/story, but I'd imagine it is.

Strike missions aren't part of the story. Because...they aren't listed as story on the map.

 

[GladiatoR]

Liked Borderlands 1, Borderlands 2 was boring to me though and tried way too hard to be funny. It's like the writers got giddy that people liked the tone of the first one and just went overboard with it in the sequel. Was flat out dire. Couldn't even finish it, gave up after about 3 hours of playtime.

Destiny on the other hand. It knows what it wants to be. It's much more fun, much more of a challenge, feels more grand and more open in scope. Has better PvP than Borderlands (though that really isn't hard to beat, PvP Borderlands is so barebones and basic), much more fun co-op instances and a better premise for the story so far - going from what limited amount we do know.

Literally, the only advantage that Borderlands has is the weapons. Much more exotic and out there than some of Destinys.

 

[J 0 E]

I played 2 hours of Borderlands 2 and found it boring, even if BL IS better than Destiny on some factors I don't see myself going back and play it.



regardless to say that the whole comparison is ridiculous atm.

 

[tbm24]

I own Borderlands 1 and abandoned it after four hours, swearing off that boring, boring, boring game.

Destiny Beta has problems, mainly the AI, but the game is far more interesting than Borderlands.

I'll take Destiny dry scifi over BL """"""""""humor"""""""""" everyday.

Beta does a pretty bad job of telling me anything about the universe I'm in, which is fine since it's a beta, but I do hope it does become interesting in the full game. It is really Dry.

 

[1upmuffin]

You're right - comparing two full games to a beta is a dumb idea.

For what it's worth, I've enjoyed the actual shooting in Destiny a lot more than what was in Borderlands. That counts for a lot in a game whose main verb is "shoot."

It is weird to compare full games to a beta, but to be fair, I didn't enjoy the gunplay in Borderlands 1 or 2, while I really enjoy it in Destiny so far.

 

[Karl Hawk]

They is a mission in the BETA that links you with 2 other Guardians if you don't already have a fireteam and from the multiple times I've done that mission at this point, trying to do it Solo is unfeasible. I don't know if these missions are one off things or considered part of the main game/story, but I'd imagine it is.

It's called a Strike. 3 co-op missions that you fight against a swarm of enemies with a boss at the end.

 

[tbm24]

Strike missions aren't part of the story. Because...they aren't listed as story on the map.

Assuming there's going to be many different Strike Missions which I think was pretty dam cool until the 20th time I've done the same one, seems like you'd be missing out on a significant portion of the game by skipping them. Compared to the other missions in the beta, the strike mission was pretty epic at first.

 

[BigDug13]

Haha man. It's crazy that a game that sold 10 million copies seems to have zero fans on GAF.

 

[QaaQer]

Beta does a pretty bad job of telling me anything about the universe I'm in, which is fine since it's a beta, but I do hope it does become interesting in the full game. It is really Dry.

How was the lore in Halo? Also dry?