Same here. The level of posh and gameplay being actually thought out and balanced puts destiny well over borderlands.
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Same here. The level of posh and gameplay being actually thought out and balanced puts destiny well over borderlands.
Mr.Miyamoto
Banned
Destiny isn't robust enough in single player to keep me interested. Borderlands, for all of its faults, was continually charming and engaging when playing alone or with friends while both the Destiny Alpha and Beta made me incredibly bored within the first 2 hours or so when trying to play by myself.
Sandy Nipples
Banned
Is this forum 60% shill? What the actual fuck. The absolute rabid pro-Destiny shit being spewed non-stop is so obviously manufactured! The game really isn't that amazing, fuck me.
Fallout-NL
Member
COOP FUN:
The things you mention have no bearing on co-op gameplay, that's world buildign and storry. Actual co-op gameplay is better in desitny imo as they have matchmaking, designated co-op strikes (And later raid types too), and yo ucan meet people in the open world who aren't joined to your game.
Just better support all round.
LOOT:
At a glance, a Bazilion guns looks better, but the majority of the stuff I found in both BLs titles was either trash or below what I already had. I had to spend a ridiculous amoutn of time comparing stats and sorting the horrific inventory.
Detiny is much better imo. It doesn't throw as many guns at you, sure, but it gives enough for it to be a steady stream. The UI makes it 10x bette to sort through, too.
Weapon design is something different.
CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
Again, the coments you list are little off point.
Both games handle character cevleopment slightly diffrently. BLs has tress where you need to make choices, Destiny has classes that you unlock everything for over time.
I think I actually prefer the choice based systems more, with unique builds being available.
I think BL trumps Destiny here.
PVP FUN
I seriously can't see how you'd even begin to say BL Pvp > Destiny. I really don't think this part needs a counter. You're just wrong!
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The things you mention have no bearing on co-op gameplay, that's world buildign and storry. Actual co-op gameplay is better in desitny imo as they have matchmaking, designated co-op strikes (And later raid types too), and yo ucan meet people in the open world who aren't joined to your game.
Just better support all round.
LOOT:
At a glance, a Bazilion guns looks better, but the majority of the stuff I found in both BLs titles was either trash or below what I already had. I had to spend a ridiculous amoutn of time comparing stats and sorting the horrific inventory.
Detiny is much better imo. It doesn't throw as many guns at you, sure, but it gives enough for it to be a steady stream. The UI makes it 10x bette to sort through, too.
Weapon design is something different.
CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
Again, the coments you list are little off point.
Both games handle character cevleopment slightly diffrently. BLs has tress where you need to make choices, Destiny has classes that you unlock everything for over time.
I think I actually prefer the choice based systems more, with unique builds being available.
I think BL trumps Destiny here.
PVP FUN
I seriously can't see how you'd even begin to say BL Pvp > Destiny. I really don't think this part needs a counter. You're just wrong!
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Sandy Nipples
Banned
Let's post here so we can piss off the brand awareness brigade.
I like borderlands a great deal, it's not up it's own ass, it's still a very original franchise, variety out the ass, and the art style is unique and grows on you.
Anyone know if there might be a chance for a GOTY edition on PS4? That would be awesome.
The Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel isn't coming to PS4... so I would hardly think soo
Sandy Nipples
Banned
That's a weird decision, surely the game wouldn't be that much of a mission to port to the x86 systems?
Would look and run much better than Destiny does right now on PS4, BL clocked at 60FPS turned up would look fantastic.
Diablo Rosso
Member
The biggest difference between the two, from an FPS perspective, is that Destiny's guns are fun to use but the guns in Borderlands have poor feedback and feel unsatisfying.
Sandy Nipples
Banned
I dunno, firing a rocket launcher and then throwing said rocket launcher as a second projectile was pretty amazing, and the way they handled damage counters was awesome.
Sandy Nipples
Banned
Also, isn't BL2 an infinitely larger game than Destiny? From the Beta you can tell Destiny is kind of small in comparison.
Doomshroom
Member
Lol this is stupid
just like Borderlands
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
The AI in the beta is already miles better than anything in borderlands. Watching an enemy maneuver back and forth around a pillar while i try to do the same to him was so much more enjoyable than the slow rolling bandits in borderlands 2
My biggest issue with Borderlands (played through about 10-15 hours of the first game with 2 friends) is that the guns don't feel weighty. Everything shoots the same. It's the same issue I have with Valve games too.
The Destiny weapons feel like they operate differently. It's just something that I get really frustrated with in games. Shooters are all about shooting, and I want the shooting to feel different when I change guns.
The Destiny weapons feel like they operate differently. It's just something that I get really frustrated with in games. Shooters are all about shooting, and I want the shooting to feel different when I change guns.
Man I don't think it's just your nipples that are sandy
DryvBy
Member
This.
Destiny shouldn't be compared to Borderlands at all. There's nothing about it that rings Borderlands. When I first went in during Alpha thinking Borderlands, I was disappointed. Then it hit me that this is Halo x PSU. It would be better to compare it to Halo than Borderlands.
Doomshroom
Member
You cant tell shit. What do you know about the scope of destiny?
In Halo, worked with a team of 130 people. Now there are over 500 people working on Destiny.s A much, much bigger game with a new graphics engine, explained Christian. Bigger? The destinations [scenarios where goes the game] like Mars, Moon, Earth, each one is more or less the same size as the entire game Halo: Reach.
Jeronimo Jones
Member
Since we're giving "initial thoughts" comparing 2 full games to a beta... I like Destiny more, it's more interesting and fun.
I never finished Borderlands due to boredom and never touched the second one. Opinions, man.
I never finished Borderlands due to boredom and never touched the second one. Opinions, man.
Salz01
Member
I was instantly addicted to borderlands. With destiny, since it's beta, I'm kind of wait and see. I want to like it, and be addicted to it, but I'm just not there yet.
On a side note, after I down a destiny boss, I expected a big explosion of loot. Which there isn't one. It's all sort of anti climatic. At least shower us with glimmer....
On a side note, after I down a destiny boss, I expected a big explosion of loot. Which there isn't one. It's all sort of anti climatic. At least shower us with glimmer....
Fallout-NL
Member
So you're comparing a game you've never touched to a beta?
(Not that I think you can't do that, mind you. Unlike you, I do understand that the couple of hours you've spent with Borderlands enable you to form a reasonably informed opinion on the game. Same goes for the hours most of us here have spent with the Destiny beta.)
……forgetit
Member
Am I the only one who passes loot boxes constantly in destiny? They blend in way too well with the background.
maneil99
Member
Borderlands 2 loot system sucks imo, you get tons of shit guns and useless weapons and items just for the sake of a bazzilion guns, destiny most guns and items matter and last longer. I'd rather have items drop less and be more relevant then tons of irrelevant guns dropping all the time. Also actual armor customization is a big plus for Destiny.
sometimes i game
Member
Cool to see this opinion out there. I honestly don't see myself buying Destiny based off of my time with the beta. It's nice, but doesn't hook me. Glad I got to experience it.
On the other hand, I love Borderlands. That game really felt fresh and interesting.
SerTapTap
Member
My opinion is Destiny is horrifically lacking in personality (beyond Bungie's decent alien designs) but far ahead of Borderlands in terms of multiplayer gameplay. People will have differing opinions on how gunplay works and the art styles, but I don't think art style is relevant as a direct comparison.
Unless something major changes by release Destiny's story is really turning out to be poor, especially with the Ghost's voice. But loot is pretty nice once you start getting Greens, and the game was built around multiplayer, while Borderlands, even though it's most fun in co op, feels like multiplayer was tacked on.
In Destiny item drops are just for you. There is no ninja-looting. There is no arguing over drops. If you get an item a friend can use you can give it to 'em, but they'll never know you got that purple Sniper Rifle so there's no awkwardness if you want to keep it.
The non-fireteam stuff is handled very well too. They can kill enemies, but they can't really get in the way of you solving your objectives. I noticed non-fireteam kills can still drop mission items for you in free roam mode.
Joining fireteams is...almost too smooth. I've had people join my fireteam without me even knowing. It's a good idea to say hi over the mic if you have one when joining a fire team because of this. But it's much better than
The mission structure and free play mode are also much more co op friendly--replaying missions is great, as is free roam, just running around and doing silly shit. In Borderlands you'd have to actually restart the story mode to replay missions. Farming bosses is about the only thing you can with friends do once all story missions are done, and they only added a "reset story mode" option in Borderlands 2's playthrough 3.
Weapon comparison is way ahead of Borderlands. Borderlands 3 should just straight up steal the method of comparison and probably most of the multiplayer stuff Iv'e mentioned. It doesn't need the weird pseduo MMO instances, but loot really needs an overhaul for multiplayer, as does the linear story problem.
As far as gunplay, I do find myself wishing guns had more personality. Fusion rifles feel great, most other guns are at least servicable, and there's some cool weapon skills out there, but I really loved how the weapon manufacturers added personality to the guns in Borderlands 2. Guns felt different, not better, and outleveling guns in BL2 actually made me very annoyed because of that. Destiny on the other hand seems to have less variation in "personality" which I hope is remedied with the higher level Purple guns we can't play with in the Beta.
Unless something major changes by release Destiny's story is really turning out to be poor, especially with the Ghost's voice. But loot is pretty nice once you start getting Greens, and the game was built around multiplayer, while Borderlands, even though it's most fun in co op, feels like multiplayer was tacked on.
In Destiny item drops are just for you. There is no ninja-looting. There is no arguing over drops. If you get an item a friend can use you can give it to 'em, but they'll never know you got that purple Sniper Rifle so there's no awkwardness if you want to keep it.
The non-fireteam stuff is handled very well too. They can kill enemies, but they can't really get in the way of you solving your objectives. I noticed non-fireteam kills can still drop mission items for you in free roam mode.
Joining fireteams is...almost too smooth. I've had people join my fireteam without me even knowing. It's a good idea to say hi over the mic if you have one when joining a fire team because of this. But it's much better than
The mission structure and free play mode are also much more co op friendly--replaying missions is great, as is free roam, just running around and doing silly shit. In Borderlands you'd have to actually restart the story mode to replay missions. Farming bosses is about the only thing you can with friends do once all story missions are done, and they only added a "reset story mode" option in Borderlands 2's playthrough 3.
Weapon comparison is way ahead of Borderlands. Borderlands 3 should just straight up steal the method of comparison and probably most of the multiplayer stuff Iv'e mentioned. It doesn't need the weird pseduo MMO instances, but loot really needs an overhaul for multiplayer, as does the linear story problem.
As far as gunplay, I do find myself wishing guns had more personality. Fusion rifles feel great, most other guns are at least servicable, and there's some cool weapon skills out there, but I really loved how the weapon manufacturers added personality to the guns in Borderlands 2. Guns felt different, not better, and outleveling guns in BL2 actually made me very annoyed because of that. Destiny on the other hand seems to have less variation in "personality" which I hope is remedied with the higher level Purple guns we can't play with in the Beta.
Nerevarine
Banned
How can you compare a game which is out for 2 years now with tons of dlc with a game that hasn't released and have only gotten a taste of it through the beta?
IMO it isn't that they blend in too much, but the extremely narrow fov.
veloxStrix
Banned
Weren't you the one complaining about the game in the Alpha thread?
And yes, all the hype is manufactured. No one has played the game at all. Or enjoyed it for that matter.
Source: Activision and Bungie pay me millions to get on the internet and say good things about an amazing game that you have probably not even played.
Edit: After reading your illogical and uninspired posts, I am now 99% sure you are either a troll or just a simple idiot. One or the other.
Or a salty Borderlands dev.
How do u know how robust it is? They only give unaccess to few missions and one location ofcourse not everyone is going to want to explore the same areas over and over again especially when there is a level cap. You can only go so far with exploring before u run into enemies you can not damage. I for one can not wait for the full game.
By comparing the parts of the unreleased game that we've gotten to play so far? No one is demanding that people make a final judgment call, just saying "Hey, how do these sorta-similar games stack up based on what we know so far?"
I've only ever seen one, so no. I probably have missed any other ones (that or they just don't pop up at all for me).
I think the problem here is that people are getting defensive as OP started off with comparing it to another game and finding it lacking. Even worse it seems that people who tend to like Destiny tended not to like Borderlands so it's really getting their hackles raised (it does seem people are getting pretty defensive with as much venom that is spit on Borderlands in defense of Destiny).
Honestly, I can't tell if I'm interested in Destiny. There's some stuff that is fun, but the story is really bland (and honestly, I need good story in a game), the characters are bland (that also is a turn off for me), and I agree with people that even with the "fix", Dinklage sounds like he could care less about his lines. Your ghost sounds really uninspired and not all that much caring.
I do like the special events (those are really fun) and the one level that is designed to be co op only rather than going through yourself. And even though one person pointed out that what I used wasn't strategy and is poor design, I kinda like that it has that design (For some one who isn't great at FPS's and probably never will be it's nice having a way to keep msyelf from being overwhelmed and having a spot I can keep from getting surrounded and even retreat back if I'm getting overwhelmed).
I will say the shooting does feel more substantial than B2 but I love all the zany guns in B2 and I do think they have enough differentation cause I know that I have certain types I prefer (I hate hyperion guns in general, I prefer sniping guns and the pistols. Sadly I find the assault rifles are annoying, they either have no scope and are decent or have a scope and suck. And I've gotten to enjoy the shotguns that you can just throw and explode after you are through with the clip, that's fun. And I usually don't like shotguns).
And B2 is better for a player like me that doesn't tend to MP a lot (first of all the only gamer I know IRL is a PC gamer and I'm a console gamer and the only way I have any friends on my friends list is meeting people through GTA online honestly. And one or two from this forum and another forum). B2 is much more fun to play as single player, probably cause for me it has a much better atmosphere/story. Destiny's atmosphere just seems kinda bland (except the airplane graveyard, I love that one but I love airplanes). But I will say for fighting it does have a good mix of places to hide behind.
I think for me the stuff I like about Destiny I'm not sure will be something that will keep me entertained for a long amount of time. It is good for shooting stuff, I'll say that. But for me I need more than that in a game (it's why for me RPGs are great. I tend to get too bored with a game if you only can do one thing in it, I like to have distractions and some variation in gameplay/mechanics).
I guess I'd say Destiny is too pure shooter for me (complete with uninspired story that is just there to give you an excuse to shoot stuff) and B2 isn't quite so much which is probably why I like B2 better.
CantTrickMe
Neo Member
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found the Beta gameplay to be bad. Don't get me wrong...the world is beautiful....but I would gladly give up detail for better mechanics/physics/story/voice acting, etc. First I want to know why there are only 3 classes. They couldn't make a better create a character than the few preset options? Next...I thought this was supposed to be a MMO. It's not. There are other people in the world, however there is a limit on the amount of players. And not only that...Im pretty sure there is a limit to the amount of people you can explore with. I somewhat enjoyed doing the missions at the time...but in retrospect...they were pretty shitty. I hope that's just because it was the first set of 5 missions but if what we saw was a precursor of how missions are done and what is to come then I'd have to go out on a limb here and say Im not looking forward to it. This game feels like Borderlands with a Halo suit on. Now to the atrocity they call pvp....I have no idea where to start. I found this to be the most horrible part of the game. I did not enjoy my time playing it. In fact...I turned it off completely after about ten matches and went to play Dark Souls on my 360. I beat the missions and decided to give pvp a shot. I was at a level 5 with a few upgraded pieces of gear upon entering. Very shortly there after I realized that being 3 levels lower than the rest of the people playing(who were for the most part all level 8) that I was super underpowered. I would get one shot nearly every time. Even when I was firing first...my weapon seemed to do minimal damage. So between being jelly and trying to stay safe from the vehicles(most OP vehicles of any game in my opinion) I just couldn't get into it. Not only that...I found the pvp to be really slow. I started a Warlock class and the double jump/float is god awful. Running feels more like a power walk and Not only that...the amount of one-hit killers in the game is ridiculous too. If I wanna play one hit kills, I'd go play hardcore in CoD or better yet Golden Gun on Goldeneye for the 64. (Bungie has their own Golden Gun btw). Also, what's up with the lack of blood or oil coming from the machines? Shooting thing's doesn't cause some kind of reaction? Im not even a proprietor for blood in games. That said, Im sure there are a ton of fanboys for this game already and that's fine. To me...Bungie seems like they just didn't want to let Halo go. Everything about Destiny screams Halo to me. The "Fallen"(might as well have been called the "flood"...still starts with an F) arrive in ships and jump off the platforms just like Halo. The sniper looks and feels like the snipers in the Halo franchise. The Guardians all feel like a wannabe Master Chief...especially when they put their helmets on.
Look...I realize it's "Just the Beta". But let's be real. The game isn't going to change all that much. Truth is that the FPS genre just isn't what it used to be and sadly Destiny is not the future of the FPS. It's just another chapter In a book with all the same shit as the other FPS's out there. They're working on a few things they can tweak but mostly they're just making sure the network wont crash and the servers are operating correctly for launch day and leaving themselves a window for repair time. . What, because I get to change boots and gloves I'm supposed to be impressed??? I will be picking this game because I love to play Coop....but...I feel it's only going to grab my attention for a few weeks or so. It reminds me of Titanfall in the fact that the hype has surpassed the final product. I feel like game developers and the producing companies need to stop the Pre-release hype and possibly cut down in advertising. They need to figure a way to keep the mystique. I think the biggest fault is that this game does not identify itself as new and fresh...it's being compared to Borderlands and Halo so much that it turns this into a comparison match. For this game to have been "Great"...It needs it's own personality...and the one we were shown is just a copy-cat.
Look...I realize it's "Just the Beta". But let's be real. The game isn't going to change all that much. Truth is that the FPS genre just isn't what it used to be and sadly Destiny is not the future of the FPS. It's just another chapter In a book with all the same shit as the other FPS's out there. They're working on a few things they can tweak but mostly they're just making sure the network wont crash and the servers are operating correctly for launch day and leaving themselves a window for repair time. . What, because I get to change boots and gloves I'm supposed to be impressed??? I will be picking this game because I love to play Coop....but...I feel it's only going to grab my attention for a few weeks or so. It reminds me of Titanfall in the fact that the hype has surpassed the final product. I feel like game developers and the producing companies need to stop the Pre-release hype and possibly cut down in advertising. They need to figure a way to keep the mystique. I think the biggest fault is that this game does not identify itself as new and fresh...it's being compared to Borderlands and Halo so much that it turns this into a comparison match. For this game to have been "Great"...It needs it's own personality...and the one we were shown is just a copy-cat.
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Mr.Miyamoto
Banned
If a game's mechanics are solid it doesn't matter how much of the game you're given to play -- it should still be entertaining. I played the Crackdown demo for hours and hours before the game came out without getting bored.
Something else to keep in mind. Borderlands franchise has had rampant cheaters across all platforms because Gearbox does nothing to stop it. The drawback of being offline or peer-to-peer is the ability to cheat.
It's possible with a server-based game that it will not be as easy to cheat in Destiny and the experience throughout multiplayer will end up being more consistent with other players.
It's possible with a server-based game that it will not be as easy to cheat in Destiny and the experience throughout multiplayer will end up being more consistent with other players.
I've played about 20 hours and it's fun to me. The mechanics really shine the more time you put into it. I rip through PvE now and PvP is really fun bouncing on rooftops.
MyNameIsRye
Member
Why does this thread even exist? Destiny isn't even out yet.
So? It's not completely unfair to draw comparisons, I don't think. We've had enough time with the beta to have a pretty good idea of what the final game will be like.
Let me preface this by saying that I absolutely adore Borderlands, it's one of my favorite series of all time. I don't want anyone to think I'm bashing Borderlands, because honestly, I think it's pretty awesome - it's just got a few problems.
Loot System:
Destiny > Borderlands
Loot management is much easier in Destiny. You can sell items straight from your inventory, and you're not constantly worrying about running out of bag space and then being forced to go all the way the fuck back to town in order to sort shit out.
Not just that, but in general, Destiny doesn't completely inundate you with loot like Borderlands does. After a certain point, the loot feels completely meaningless in Borderlands because there's SO FUCKING MUCH of it.
In addition, Destiny looks like it has a solid end-game progression path with excellent, hand-tailored gear to barter for - something that Borderlands lacks entirely.
Skill/Leveling System:
Destiny > Borderlands
Again, Destiny trounces Borderlands here. Borderlands takes excruciatingly long to really get going on the class front, but I already have tons of interesting things to do with my classes in Destiny at level 8. A lot of the skills in Borderlands lack impact, and outside of the Assassin, I never really felt like I was getting any kind of huge upgrade when I placed another skill point into my character. Destiny doesn't do the "multiple levels of the same skill" shit that Borderlands does, and as a result, each time you place a skill point it feels like it actually matters.
Leveling is maybe a little too fast in Destiny, however. I'm curious to see how long it will take to go from 1 to 20 in the final game, because as it stands, it feels like I'd be able to do it in a single sitting - I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Art/Visual Design/Graphics:
Destiny > Borderlands
Borderlands art style, while endearing, is quite ugly in certain spots. Visually, on a technical level, it doesn't even begin to hold a candle to what Destiny is doing. I still find myself just stopping and looking around in Destiny, even after putting in over 30 hours during the course of the Alpha and Beta thus far.
The lighting engine, in particular, is absolutely incredible. Borderlands also has dynamic time of day, but it looks nowhere near as nice as it does in Destiny. I think that environmental shadows don't even budge an inch in Borderlands, but I could be misremembering. In Destiny, they smoothly walk across the environments, and it's an amazingly pleasing effect.
I've always been a sucker for Bungie's art styles, and this game is no exception. Even the low-level armor looks great, and is very cohesive as a whole. Some might call it generic, I like to call it consistent. In many MMOs mixing and matching various low-level armor pieces can turn into an absolute disaster (from a visual standpoint), but in Destiny, the armor seems like a natural progression from lower to higher level gear, getting slowly more intricate over time. I'm very impressed, honestly.
One thing I'll give Borderlands is monster variety - in Destiny, the enemies you fight are generally the same size. There's very little difference in the stature of enemies from race to race (at least for what we've seen from revealed media - the Fallen are a little taller than most Hive, the Vex seem to be somewhere in between the two - the Cabal are wider, but still about the same height). In Borderlands, you fight tiny things, and you fight ENORMOUS things. I realize it's unfair to judge based just off the beta on this one, but it seems like it's going to be the case for the final game as well. I'd like to see some more variety among trash mobs.
Gun/Gameplay:
Destiny > Borderlands
The most important category here. Borderlands is floaty and even the most insane end-game weapons just don't have the same kind of impact as even the very first starting rifle you get in Destiny. There's hardly any feedback - gunplay feels almost completely hollow.
Bungie has always been good at gunplay, and Destiny is no exception. Weapons feel weighty, and the combat is incredibly satisfying. My roommates and I are able to just grind for hours in the same spot - something that I HATED doing in Borderlands - because the combat feedback loop is just so fucking satisfying. Critical hits feel like critical hits, and the awesome animation you get for head-shotting enemies is just too good.
I think that the combat is by far the weakest part of Borderlands. It's almost completely thoughtless, especially when you get better weapons later on. Hold down trigger -> sweep the room -> you win. Destiny makes you think about encounters, something that I only ever had to do on maybe one or two bosses in the entire Borderlands series.
e: sorry for the double
Loot System:
Destiny > Borderlands
Loot management is much easier in Destiny. You can sell items straight from your inventory, and you're not constantly worrying about running out of bag space and then being forced to go all the way the fuck back to town in order to sort shit out.
Not just that, but in general, Destiny doesn't completely inundate you with loot like Borderlands does. After a certain point, the loot feels completely meaningless in Borderlands because there's SO FUCKING MUCH of it.
In addition, Destiny looks like it has a solid end-game progression path with excellent, hand-tailored gear to barter for - something that Borderlands lacks entirely.
Skill/Leveling System:
Destiny > Borderlands
Again, Destiny trounces Borderlands here. Borderlands takes excruciatingly long to really get going on the class front, but I already have tons of interesting things to do with my classes in Destiny at level 8. A lot of the skills in Borderlands lack impact, and outside of the Assassin, I never really felt like I was getting any kind of huge upgrade when I placed another skill point into my character. Destiny doesn't do the "multiple levels of the same skill" shit that Borderlands does, and as a result, each time you place a skill point it feels like it actually matters.
Leveling is maybe a little too fast in Destiny, however. I'm curious to see how long it will take to go from 1 to 20 in the final game, because as it stands, it feels like I'd be able to do it in a single sitting - I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Art/Visual Design/Graphics:
Destiny > Borderlands
Borderlands art style, while endearing, is quite ugly in certain spots. Visually, on a technical level, it doesn't even begin to hold a candle to what Destiny is doing. I still find myself just stopping and looking around in Destiny, even after putting in over 30 hours during the course of the Alpha and Beta thus far.
The lighting engine, in particular, is absolutely incredible. Borderlands also has dynamic time of day, but it looks nowhere near as nice as it does in Destiny. I think that environmental shadows don't even budge an inch in Borderlands, but I could be misremembering. In Destiny, they smoothly walk across the environments, and it's an amazingly pleasing effect.
I've always been a sucker for Bungie's art styles, and this game is no exception. Even the low-level armor looks great, and is very cohesive as a whole. Some might call it generic, I like to call it consistent. In many MMOs mixing and matching various low-level armor pieces can turn into an absolute disaster (from a visual standpoint), but in Destiny, the armor seems like a natural progression from lower to higher level gear, getting slowly more intricate over time. I'm very impressed, honestly.
One thing I'll give Borderlands is monster variety - in Destiny, the enemies you fight are generally the same size. There's very little difference in the stature of enemies from race to race (at least for what we've seen from revealed media - the Fallen are a little taller than most Hive, the Vex seem to be somewhere in between the two - the Cabal are wider, but still about the same height). In Borderlands, you fight tiny things, and you fight ENORMOUS things. I realize it's unfair to judge based just off the beta on this one, but it seems like it's going to be the case for the final game as well. I'd like to see some more variety among trash mobs.
Gun/Gameplay:
Destiny > Borderlands
The most important category here. Borderlands is floaty and even the most insane end-game weapons just don't have the same kind of impact as even the very first starting rifle you get in Destiny. There's hardly any feedback - gunplay feels almost completely hollow.
Bungie has always been good at gunplay, and Destiny is no exception. Weapons feel weighty, and the combat is incredibly satisfying. My roommates and I are able to just grind for hours in the same spot - something that I HATED doing in Borderlands - because the combat feedback loop is just so fucking satisfying. Critical hits feel like critical hits, and the awesome animation you get for head-shotting enemies is just too good.
I think that the combat is by far the weakest part of Borderlands. It's almost completely thoughtless, especially when you get better weapons later on. Hold down trigger -> sweep the room -> you win. Destiny makes you think about encounters, something that I only ever had to do on maybe one or two bosses in the entire Borderlands series.
e: sorry for the double
Of course. I only ever played the PC versions.
SerTapTap
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Destiny gunplay is mostly very satisfying, but one area where Borderlands was fantastic was the elemental DOT. Enemies running around on fire, screaming, several quotes per (human) enemy while on fire. Destiny has none of that, and elemental guns don't even seem to do DOT. Only DOT I've noticed is the Ranger's fire grenade. Elements in general feel tacked on in Destiny, but maybe it's because I don't really understand their effects.
RadicalVelocity
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What? Borderlands doesn't have that at all. It has quantity loot mechanics. It's a damned stream of shit that you have to carefully sift through to find things that are actually better than what you have. Maybe. I recently started BL2, after loving the first game. On a mission to rescue a certain prisoner, my brother and I had to literally run back to the vending machines FOUR times to discard all the crap the game dropped on us. And the only thing I found that was actually better than what I had was a shield. Brother got one good rare gun (all the other rare guns were trash compared to my green smg or whatnot).
I'm filled with nostalgia for the first game, so I don't trust my judgement of it, but BL2 is filled with so much trash loot that I don't want to play very much. It's a struggle. Destiny, on the other hand, actually gives loot that's worth looking through.
Also, saw some claim in the thread about loot dropping once every half hour or so. I ran through the strike on level 8 last night, and I counted my drops. 10 weapons and armor, 3 of which were uncommon rarity. That took about 35-40 minutes to run through. And i've gotten about 12 rares throughout the beta so far, in less than twice that many hours of playing. So.
Only other thing to add is that Borderlands never had very good FPS mechanics, whereas Destiny is top of the class. I'll probably never bother to do an itemized comparison, ever, but if I did, i'd wait until I can actually see what the full game is like.