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[Vidiot]

I think I was the only person who thought it was a good call to remove mewtwo. Not out of some weird spite, I just didn't think he fit. In the movies, Mewtwo was an untouchable god-like character. To have someone like jigglypuff or luigi fighting on par with him feels like a disservice to his character IMO.

That said I'll be glad if he returns just cos so many people want him back.

The only thing that should hurt Ganondorf is the Master Sword and light arrows yet Olimar throwing a pikmin at him can fuck him up.

In short the games aren't realistic measures of the characters powers and it's only for fun.

 

[Kyzon]

I'm so excited to play with sonic again. I really liked what they were going for with him in brawl, but he was so bad

I'm kinda sad that everything he does looks the same though

Well not everything, but there's a lot that's very similar. I'd want him to have his power shields, or maybe other abilities from games. Bounce Bracelet maybe, lightspeed attack, etc.

 

[Kjellson]

I didn't even realized that. I wonder if there are other characters that probably have been ignored for awhile.

Greninja has been in like two PotDs since his reveal.

 

[Ryce]

I think I was the only person who thought it was a good call to remove mewtwo. Not out of some weird spite, I just didn't think he fit. In the movies, Mewtwo was an untouchable god-like character. To have someone like jigglypuff or luigi fighting on par with him feels like a disservice to his character IMO.

Smash Bros. is a series where Bowser can wear bunny ears and assault the Ice Climbers on a Pikmin stage. Canon is meaningless.

 

[Wreck-It Ralph]

ROB missing would certainly rub me the wrong way.

Would you feel... ROBBED?

 

[PadWarrior]

Rofl, why would they do that? That was transparently fake. The median age of their staff must be like 14.

I don't quite understand it myself lol.

 

[Ahnez]

I think I was the only person who thought it was a good call to remove mewtwo. Not out of some weird spite, I just didn't think he fit. In the movies, Mewtwo was an untouchable god-like character. To have someone like jigglypuff or luigi fighting on par with him feels like a disservice to his character IMO.

That said I'll be glad if he returns just cos so many people want him back.

Actually, there are many characters like that.. (I want to list them for some reason lol)

Like Ganondorf, that is so powerful that it normally requires Link and Zelda, two triforce bearers, and the Master Sword, a weapon created specifically to fight him, just to stand a chance against him

Same with endgame Ness and Lucas, whose powers easily rivals mewtwo's

Rosalina and Palutena are immortal beings

In the end, its better just to remember that smash bros is about toys fighting lol

 

[autobzooty]

Smash Bros. is a series where Bowser can wear bunny ears and assault the Ice Climbers on a Pikmin stage. Canon is meaningless.

Yeah I'm probably holding a double standard but to me it would be like if Giygas was playable. But I guess ganondorf is in a similar situation and that doesn't bother me so yeah.

I'm kinda sad that everything he does looks the same though

Well not everything, but there's a lot that's very similar. I'd want him to have his power shields, or maybe other abilities from games. Bounce Bracelet maybe, lightspeed attack, etc.

I think the power shields would actually make great items that anyone could use!

I don't think sonic needs new moves, I just think they needed tweaks. His side-b looks much more fun and powerful now, and it looks like it's easier to combo out of spindashes too. If they make stuff like that easier, I'll be very happy with sonic.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Mewtwo can be made subservient by a machine that you get for beating a mob boss who was beaten several times by a child.

 

[Mr-Joker]

3DS gets Green Hill Zone! YES!

I hate that they chose Windy Hill for the WiiU version. It's like an advertisement for a game that'll be almost a year old that didn't even turn out to be that great.

Really would have rather seen another Genesis stage or something from a better received Nintendo Sonic.

Personally I am not bothered since you can changed the music.

It would be nice we get Casino Night stage for Sonic!

Ewwwwwww.

I don't any casino levels from Sonic games.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I thought distinguishing Sonic's attacks was easy. He always does a weird hop when the spin dash starts, and it starts slower than the charge, which goes straight at you really fast.

Though my brother mains him, so I'm used to it.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

3DS gets Green Hill Zone! YES!

I hate that they chose Windy Hill for the WiiU version. It's like an advertisement for a game that'll be almost a year old that didn't even turn out to be that great.

Really would have rather seen another Genesis stage or something from a better received Nintendo Sonic.

To be fair, Smash Bros. is a giant advertisement for Nintendo's games. These games also advertising Pokemon X & Y, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Fire Emblem Awakening, and Tomodachi Life. Hell, Brawl was basically advertising Metal Gear Solid 4.

Smash Bros. is a series where Bowser can wear bunny ears and assault the Ice Climbers on a Pikmin stage. Canon is meaningless.

I'd be fine with Ridley being playable just so I could see him wearing Bunny Ears or otherwise being involved into funny antics.

 

[Ryce]

Yeah I'm probably holding a double standard but to me it would be like if Giygas was playable. But I guess ganondorf is in a similar situation and that doesn't bother me so yeah.

Palutena's pretty powerful, too.

 

[Kyzon]

Yeah I'm probably holding a double standard but to me it would be like if Giygas was playable. But I guess ganondorf is in a similar situation and that doesn't bother me so yeah.



I think the power shields would actually make great items that anyone could use!

I don't think sonic needs new moves, I just think they needed tweaks. His side-b looks much more fun and powerful now, and it looks like it's easier to combo out of spindashes too. If they make stuff like that easier, I'll be very happy with sonic.

His side and down specials are both literally spindashes as well as his down smash and his up smash is..... something similar.

Strangely enough to me though, his roll isn't some type of spin dash XD

 

[Ahnez]

Palutena's pretty powerful, too.

Also, I dont think punches and sword slashes can damage the Varia Suit at all lol

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Anyone read the newest leaks from Smashboards?

>Dixie
>Shulk
>Chorus Men
>Ridley
>Bowser Jr (riding in the mini clown car, 7 koopa kid alts)
>Mewtwo
>Duck Hunt Dog

Mentions of Ice Climbers, Snake, Wolf and Lucas being cut. Maybe saved for DLC?

Sadly Dixie and Ridley are the only ones who have only been speculated on for what ever reason. Also aside from foul mouth guy, the others are reputable as far as I know. Oh and no one knows if these are all the rest of the newcomers.

It's worth a look that's for sure and I mean we are getting extremely close to launch, someone is bound to leak something. Still even the guys who leaked this stuff are saying take everything with a grain of salt since they didn't see everything for themselves.

EDIT: Wait can I even post the link? I forget how things work around here sometimes.

>Bowser Jr

yeah okay fuck thi-

7 koopa kid alts)

Oh my~

Don't see the Ice Climbers (or even Wolf for that matter) getting cut when we've already seen the Polar Bear in Smash Run and Sakurai awkwardly swapped out a photo of said bear probably because he doesn't want to show them off yet. I am sort of wondering if they'll get a makeover due to the 3DS's limitations though.

It's an out there leak, but if it were true I'd be super happy. I really dislike Bowser Jr. when he's just by himself since he more or less made the Koopalings redundant, but nowadays since they show up together I'm fine with him if it means I get the other 7 as well. Seems a bit overkill to have so many alts for one character though, especially if they all need unique animations and voice clips :V

EDIT: Didn't realize this wasn't meant to represent one individual Smashboards link and is instead a combination of several different ones. Anybody have a link to each example?

 

[autobzooty]

His side and down specials are both literally spindashes as well as his down smash and his up smash is..... something similar.

Strangely enough to me though, his roll isn't some type of spin dash XD

I don't mind the over abundance of spindashes cos that's kinda what sonic is all about, but I understand the complaints.

I did notice they changed his down smash to like a break dance kick move. Not sure if they made any other visual changes to his moves though.

 

[PadWarrior]

Pit is pretty powerful himself. I would love to see him crossover to a Zelda game.

 

[superNESjoe]

Is there any legitimacy to that Duck Hunt Dog rumor?

 

[Kyzon]

I don't mind the over abundance of spindashes cos that's kinda what sonic is all about, but I understand the complaints.

I did notice they changed his down smash to like a break dance kick move. Not sure if they made any other visual changes to his moves though.

While that is what sonic does, it's very well not all he does, and more often than not every game gifts him new abilities. He could have his wind attack. Randomly have a sword aided spin attack (lol I'm a hypocrite), use chaos control, etc.

Honestly all I would really want changed since his down smash seems to be different is either the down or side special moves. Homing attack is quite alright and one spin attack is quite all right.

His Up B is fantastic though. I love what they did there.

Is there any legitimacy to that Duck Hunt Dog rumor?

Nope

 

[alecfa]

Yeah I'm probably holding a double standard but to me it would be like if Giygas was playable. But I guess ganondorf is in a similar situation and that doesn't bother me so yeah.



I think the power shields would actually make great items that anyone could use!

I don't think sonic needs new moves, I just think they needed tweaks. His side-b looks much more fun and powerful now, and it looks like it's easier to combo out of spindashes too. If they make stuff like that easier, I'll be very happy with sonic.

Giygas is understandable. It's the embodiment of evil and fear - despite having a shape in the manuals and one battle, it's more of a concept than something tangible or anthropomorphic. Its attacks are psychological - it'd be ridiculous to see it running around throwing punches and kicks - not to mention completely undervalue the series' emotional subtext.

Someone like Gannondorf may also represent evil in the Zelda series, but he's still a tangible character with funny clothes and a perm and a dorky laugh and shakespearean monologues. Having him wear a tanooki suit doesn't change the Zelda series. Having Giygas in a tanooki suit? That would.

And while Mewtwo may be this unstoppable force in the movies, you can feed him cupcakes and scratch his belly in the games.

 

[OmegaSmash]

His side and down specials are both literally spindashes as well as his down smash and his up smash is..... something similar.

Strangely enough to me though, his roll isn't some type of spin dash XD

He's supposed to emulate the Genesis games despite using his modern design, so mainly using spin dashes for attacks makes sense since that's his main gimmick in those games.

 

[WiiRevolution1]

They also theorize a Zelda newcomer. For context, I think this was compiled from I think three "leaks" and they put two and two together from their different builds apparently. The only credential one source showed was two alt colors posted on June 6 they recreated as a Brawl mod that could be found in the E3 build (Blue/Pink Mario and Green/Blue Bowser). And then all of a sudden this same list pops up. I'm all for any "leaks" that includes Dixie Kong at the very least.

I want to believe. If Chorus Kids and Shulk are final newcomers revealed before launch, that gives us a good number of unlockables, and all the unlackables make sense since they don't have a game to advertise except Bowser Jr. and Dixie. Bowser Jr. Can be because they didn't want to show off two Mario newcomers before hand. (FE probably only did it because IS really wanted to show them all off, since I'd imagine Lucina was originally a unlockable.) And Dixie...well, maybe just to add to the unlockables?

The unlockables will probably be stuff that doesn't have a recent game, which is why stuff like Duck Hunt Dog amd Ridley make sense. I want to belive this list, because finally it makes perfect sense. It is the ultimate leak, and I believe it.

 

[Sponge]

So it's tuesday, which means another project m alt costume is revealed, this time, it's shinobi squirtle.

How did they not do the Squirtle Squad?

 

[Kyzon]

He's supposed to emulate the Genesis games despite using his modern design, so mainly using spin dashes for attacks makes sense since that's his main gimmick in those games.

Homing attack, and a few of his sonic battle fighting moves are present in his moveset.

He emulates all of Sonic... but mostly spins.

How did they not do the Squirtle Squad?

It's one of his taunts

 

[IntelliHeath]

Bower JR being playable with 7 Koopaling Kids alts would make people raging for sure. I know it's more likely to be fake, but if it's actually real then we will have enough salts to last us for many years.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I feel like I'm the only one who's glad Sonic is mostly unchanged, even down to having two spin dash specials. Always thought they were different enough and fun.

 

[Cody_D165]

How did they not do the Squirtle Squad?

Protip: If you do Squirtle's uptaunt in PM, then press B right as he touches the ground, Squirtle will wear the glasses until the next time he is attacked.

Also while we're on the subject my favorite added taunt in PM is the ability to make Captain Falcon yell "YESZ!" mid-knee by pressing taunt at the moment of impact.

 

[Troubled Bat]

Honestly all I would really want changed since his down smash seems to be different is either the down or side special moves. Homing attack is quite alright and one spin attack is quite all right.

His Up B is fantastic though. I love what they did there.

That's one of the reasons why i'm so bothered by Sonic, I hate that of his specials weren't changed. I was hoping his side-b would be the wave attack he can do in Sonic Battle. But nope.. :c Hopefully one of his custom moves allow that. >.<

 

[Platy]

How did they not do the Squirtle Squad?

 

[Anura]

I hate the Squirtle matchup in PM. It's so weird for me.

 

[Starphoenix]

Yeah I'm gonna wait and see myself. Didn't the mods vouch for that other guy who knew a member of the sound crew?

The circumstances are a bit different, but you're right in being skeptical. As much as I respect my peers there is still a justice due to common sense until otherwise proven. I don't know how many, or how detailed, the palettes leaked were, but I assume it's quite enough to at least validate one of the users in the mind of several mods. And the interesting component is there are different users claiming the same information (DHD and Koopa Family). Normally, I'd suspect some kind of alt trickery, but we have the ability to check users' ip addresses, and I assume that would have been the first things they checked. Still doesn't eliminate the possibility of a collective hoax -- I'll try to pick the brains of the couple staff members a little more. I still remain unconvinced.

 

[Frolow]

So, I talked with some of the moderators at Smashboards; I'm not sure about the cut veterans and some of the other newcomers like Ridley, but apparently the few people who've come forward on info with Duck Hunt Dog and Koopa Clown Car Koopaling (my term) predicted some unique palette swaps a month ago that were confirmed via the latest demos. Still not sure I believe this but hoo boy would it be funny if true.

Dog Hunt Dog? Damn I'm behind on all these rumors.

 

[PadWarrior]

Bower JR being playable with 7 Koopaling Kids alts would make people raging for sure. I know it's more likely to be fake, but if it's actually real then we will have enough salts to last us for many years.

Heh just need Pink Gold Peach now lol.

 

[PadWarrior]

The circumstances are a bit different, but you're right in being skeptical. As much as I respect my peers there is still a justice due to common sense until otherwise proven. I don't know how many, or how detailed, the palettes leaked were, but I assume it's quite enough to at least validate one of the users in the mind of several mods. And the interesting component is there are different users claiming the same information. Normally, I'd suspect some kind of alt trickery, but we have the ability to check users' ip addresses, and I assume that would have been the first things they checked. Still doesn't eliminate the possibility of a collective hoax -- I'll try to pick the brains of the couple staff members a little more. I still remain unconvinced.

Alright keep us posted!

 

[MrSaturn99]

please no bowser jr.

why would you ever want him

 

[WiiRevolution1]

Bower JR being playable with 7 Koopaling Kids alts would make people raging for sure. I know it's more likely to be fake, but if it's actually real then we will have enough salts to last us for many years.

??? it would be one of the best things in Smash history. Why would people be salty?! :/

 

[Starphoenix]

??? it would be one of the best things in Smash history. Why would people be salty?! :/

I assume because people hated seven playable Koopalings in Mario Kart 8.

After the Paper Mario stage I'd really hate any other Mario character other than him at this point.

 

[SmithnCo]

please no bowser jr.

why would you ever want him

Dude can't even get into Kart, he has no chance for Smash.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I assume because people hated seven playable Koopalings in Mario Kart 8.

and the fact that they would felt that they waste their time working on 7 koopaling kids' models, so they are going to blame those models for robbing their chance to have their favorite characters' chance to be playable or their alts.

 

[ffdgh]

I assume because people hated seven playable Koopalings in Mario Kart 8.

Vocal minority. Koopalings are mostly loved.

 

[Kyzon]

That's one of the reasons why i'm so bothered by Sonic, I hate that of his specials weren't changed. I was hoping his side-b would be the wave attack he can do in Sonic Battle. But nope.. :c Hopefully one of his custom moves allow that. >.<

His custom moves will be more spin attacks XD

BTW: I don't HATE Sonic's moveset, more like I feel like they could have done so much more with it. I was a huge Sonic fan as a kid, so that may be why. I always imagined him using his different abilities..... His dash attack is a spin attack too isn't it >_> lol

 

[DICKS AHOY]

please no bowser jr.

why would you ever want him

If it lets me rock out with Roy and Wendy in Smash via alts then I'll let the stupid bastard get his time in the sun.

 

[MrSaturn99]

I wasn't aware there was a Koopaling MK8 controversy, but I imagine it wouldn't be such a big deal if they rounded out the roster with two newcomers that were actually, y'know, good.

Dude can't even get into Kart, he has no chance for Smash.

seriously.

If it lets me rock out with Roy and Wendy in Smash via alts then I'll let the stupid bastard get his time in the sun.

fair enough

 

[emb]

I assume because people hated seven playable Koopalings in Mario Kart 8.

After the Paper Mario stage I'd really hate any other Mario character other than him at this point.

Whaaaat? Who would hate that? That was probably the coolest part of Mario Kart 8.

Not that it matters who you play in Mario Kart.

 

[IntelliHeath]

His custom moves will be more spin attacks XD

BTW: I don't HATE Sonic's moveset, more like I feel like they could have done so much more with it. I was a huge Sonic fan as a kid, so that may be why. I always imagined him using his different abilities..... His dash attack is a spin attack too isn't it >_> lol

I think his moveset is just fine but I hope that he would have better kill moves this time, but I heard that he's overall better than brawl's Sonic.

 

[Guesong]

Ehhh I don't know how I'd feel about the Koopalings.

I think the idea of having Clown Car Bowser Jr is pretty great, but modeling the Koopalings as alts while X/.exe/StarForce/Volnutt are non-selectable, AFAWK...that'd hurt me pretty deep.

Then again, Sakurai teased us about it a while ago with a trophy. They could still be alts.



Anyhow we are totally getting a Ness reveal where it is shown he inherited some of Lucas' moveset like his snake throw tonight and Sakurai will tell us "I never forget about snakes". Complete. Global. Meltdown.

 

[alecfa]

Heh just need Pink Gold Peach now lol.

"Pink Gold Peach started as an alternate costume for Peach, but we concluded that this character deserves their own slot to go with their slightly faster falling speed! All other properties are the same."

Whaaaat? Who would hate that? That was probably the coolest part of Mario Kart 8.

Not that it matters who you play in Mario Kart.

A lot of people were salty because a lot of characters got cut, like Dry Bones, Birdo, Bowser Jr., Diddy Kong, Funky Kong, King Boo, but they added 7 koopalings, 2 metal characters, and 4 babies.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

I assume because people hated seven playable Koopalings in Mario Kart 8.

Yeah, the koopalings were awful in Mario Kart 8, but they were balanced out with how imaginative and original the metal texture swaps and baby characters were, so it's all good.

Spoiler

I don't remember people complaining about the Koopalings in Mario Kart 8. Nobody worth listening to anyway.

Ehhh I don't know how I'd feel about the Koopalings.

I think the idea of having Clown Car Bowser Jr is pretty great, but modeling the Koopalings as alts while X/.exe/StarForce/Volnutt are non-selectable, AFAWK...that'd hurt me pretty deep.

It'd hurt me deeper not having an alternative to playing as one of my least favorite Mario characters, especially if the Clown Car moveset is fun.

I think I hate Bowser Jr. more than some people hate K. Rool in this thread, and that's saying something.

 

[Hatchtag]

I think people are overestimating how much work it'd be to have Koopalings alts. If they're in the Koopaling car most the time, the animations would barely have to change, if at all.