Opus Angelorum
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Paying a subscription to access Publisher specific games. Who it is shouldn't cloud the argument as others will inevitably come along.
Sony's response to EA Access Subscription plan
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Paying a subscription to access Publisher specific games. Who it is shouldn't cloud the argument as others will inevitably come along.
Or they could subscribe to EA Access service, get the no-cost back catalog, get early access to new titles, and have paid a net-cost of zero for it if they buy three EA titles digitally over the course of a year?
I don't buy many EA titles, but you're putting yourself in the place of deciding what's best for other consumers with different taste, and you're not doing a very good job of it.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
The difference between competing companies offering movies and shows from countless studios versus each studio only offering its own movies and shows, each for a separate subscription fee is astronomical.
One is capitalism at its finest. The other is a nightmare hellhole that MS and EA are driving the gaming industry toward.
Yup. There will be a time when EA doesn't need even more money right? Right???
Which would be no worse than, say Destiny content exclusive to PS4.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
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I'm sure there is more to this than what they are telling us but, what they are telling us is not really that cool. I'd rather make the choice for myself.
RobertMuldoon
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Do people really care about the ability to play out dated sports games on their console for a subscription? Like let's face it, that's what it will mostly be.
Steverulez
Member
Payback for Titanfall...?
Im sure MS (and therefore Sony on PS4) get a cut of the sales so I doubt it would be all money in EAs pocket
Heh, saying no (or releasing a statement against) an EA subscription service doesn't really suggest that
condompickle
Banned
Kinda feel bad for fellow sony brothers. The option would of been nice to have. Chin up.
Dreamgazer
Member
My only dislike to the EA subscription service is that at it's initial year, it's going to be lackluster to non-sports fans or the occasional EA games purchaser. I already have a big enough backlog as is, and I don't see myself wanting to play the few sports game + the 10% discount at the current point. Best Buy's Gamer Club Unlocked at least offers a 20% discount + additional reward points for game purchase.
However, assuming EA keeps all of their games in the vault, the service will grow in value overtime. The service would also appeal to me more if it extends down to the 360 library. Of course, that also means the later I sub the better...
However, assuming EA keeps all of their games in the vault, the service will grow in value overtime. The service would also appeal to me more if it extends down to the 360 library. Of course, that also means the later I sub the better...
Opus Angelorum
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If EA were desperate to be on the Sony platform as well then EA Access would be on the PS4. Sony are the wall here, not EA's bankroll.
It would be interesting to hear your take on this as a developer, genuinely.
Brad Grenz
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Paramount
Universal
Warner Brothers
Sony
Disney
Fox
New Line
MGM
Lions Gate
We're already at $27 and you're losing out on tons of independent movies, televisions shows and documentaries that would not come under the above studios.
It was the mantra on PS2. Sony didn't have an infrastructure so they just allowed publishers complete control over their own fiefdoms with PS2 online, technically and business wise. Different logins for different pubs, different payment methods etc. etc. Publishers handled and controlled everything themselves.
MS countered with a unified platform that all publishers has to use, and basically won the argument on unified vs open.
It's interesting that roles have reversed on this...especially because Sony has also been perceived to be the more open of the two to publisher-initiated online business models, even since PSN emerged and unified things more. But I guess PS+ is a bit of a sacred cow for Sony, and they might feel a particular bit of entitlement around it since they basically pioneered the idea, and openness to individual publisher biz models ends at content subs.
because it looks like they taken decision to not allow it on PS4 ? they should explain and have.
LowerLevel
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Stop reading my mind!
Probably not. But people will care about playing the newest sports games 5 days earlier than release. Which is the reason why they've been subscribing to an almost identical service from EA for the past 3 years. And probably, given its success, why EA are continuing it on current-gen.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
But this was made with Microsoft. It wouldn't have been there at all anyways. This is not something EA came up with on its own.
spookyfish
Member
I'm speaking only for myself, but I don't play multiplayer online games. But I have and will keep PSPlus. With the Xbox One's release, I let my Gold lapse on my 360, because I perceive Plus to be a better value.
Again, that's just my take on it, but I can't be the only one.
shanafan
Member
Sure, why not? I picked up Madden 13 for Wii U recently because I wanted to play a football game, and I wanted to play it on Nintendo.
I played NHL 07 a lot around 2009-2010 because it was a high quality hockey game and I got it at a great value. So, if I can play a year old sport franchise for $5 a month, along with many other sport franchises and FPSes, and RPGs, jeez just take my money! And come on, it's $5. $5. $5. $5.
Opus Angelorum
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Indeed, but EA did approach Sony so clearly this wasn't simple a Microsoft and EA engagement.
Dragonborn
Member
True, I personally don't care for year old sports games (or sports games in general), so I don't see the value in this.
Still, I don't want a subscription filled future. If EA wants to offer a legit streaming option, then get other publishers. If they do that and Sony then refuses again, that'll be a different discussion. But as is, I support Sony putting their foot down and stopping EA in their tracks.
I'd rather have a netflix style service, than a one per publisher subscription.
Exactly, and some people are arguing something like this would be good for gaming. I don't think so.
So, Sony too?
Chobel
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Both are bad, and both should stop.
Sorc3r3r
Member
Btw, such a 'harsh' statement by Sony will be heard by all pubs, it is loud and clear 'not on my platform guys!'
Interesting times ahead.
May work for Sony if they manage to continue to outsold the competion like they did till now, but even then if all the big one begin to offers discounts and first accesses on the xbox one after subbing the market could shift.
Just writing up almost random thoughts in my mind.
Interesting times ahead.
May work for Sony if they manage to continue to outsold the competion like they did till now, but even then if all the big one begin to offers discounts and first accesses on the xbox one after subbing the market could shift.
Just writing up almost random thoughts in my mind.
BruiserBear
Banned
at least that's the way they're spinning it. The fact that Sony responded tells us they were approached and offered this subscription service as well, but they turned it down.
So then Microsoft and EA try and pimp it as an "exclusive" thing and make it sound more special.
Well then you must be furious that Netflix doesn't have all the movies Hulu has, and HBO has content the others don't, and Amazon has their own shows, etc.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
My point being regarding Netflix is that it's a service Sony don't provide. It allows you to watch online movies. By your reasoning, you can still buy films without it.
Anyway, we're getting dragged away from the main point.
By the way, you're not the cricketer, are you?
He he no.
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JoJo UK
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So customers would choose to use the service and that makes it a bad thing?
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Where was this said? I didn't see them say that they approached Sony.
Handy Fake
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This is what is called a Slippery-slope Fallacy.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Choice is only good if the majority of people won't make a stupid one. I think this subscription service thing can and will get quickly out of hand if it is let to pass.
Maybe? Depends on the price and content. I might enjoy the movies from one studio more than the others. Maybe it would be cheaper if I don't subscribe to all the studios instead of the Netflix subscription. It's all in the value. And if studios would have subscription models maybe Netflix would be pushed to be cheaper. Because competition.
Dragonborn
Member
Sure, but this is EA/MS we're talking about. You're actually telling me there's no reason to worry?
There is competition for Netflix. Prime, Hulu, etc.
The Jackdog
Member
You arent losing anything. You can buy your games at full price, or at retail, or whereever you want.
Its just a different option, i just cant understand how thats a bad thing
Opus Angelorum
Member
That suggests EA approached them.
But if it was GG/Sony it would be fine?
Chobel
Member
The OP? You know, Sony saying no to EA about this.
GrayDock
Member
I know choices are good, etc, etc, but, in this case I think Sony did what MS couln't.
MS is in an uphill battle and even if it lose some money now because most of the subs and the game revenue will surely to EA with MS getting just tidbits, but any "added value" percieved for it's platform is good news, like "hey the XBox have EAcess and the others don't!"
If this EAcess was for the X360 too I would say that MS saw some money in there that Sony didn't, but being X1 only indicates IMO that was more like "well, we need all the help that we can get...."
MS is in an uphill battle and even if it lose some money now because most of the subs and the game revenue will surely to EA with MS getting just tidbits, but any "added value" percieved for it's platform is good news, like "hey the XBox have EAcess and the others don't!"
If this EAcess was for the X360 too I would say that MS saw some money in there that Sony didn't, but being X1 only indicates IMO that was more like "well, we need all the help that we can get...."
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why would they lie? And there's probably money associated with getting the program that Sony probably chose not to spend. I doubt MS got this program for free from EA.
Brad Grenz
Member
If you buy FIFA, Madden and Battlefield every year you already own the games that are going to be in the vault, and you're going to buy the games they will be adding to the vault next year. Other than that it's a limited trial of games you have to buy a few days early. And a 10% coupon you paid $30 to have.
Eat more fiber!
I feel like I just lost 10 pounds
The Jackdog
Member
Do this with cable channels and yeah, yeah I would.
Hell maybe even with movie studios if i can get everything on all my devices.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
A practice that already harms gamers, so why not more right?
When did I say I was objective? You constantly put words into people's mouths, it's pretty irritating. All I said was don't pretend that you, yourself, are the bastion of objectivity. You aren't.
I don't care what consoles you own, it's completely irrelevant.
I'm sure it's been said but:
PlayStation Plus memberships are up more than 200% since the launch of PlayStation 4, which shows that gamers are looking for memberships that offer a multitude of services, across various devices, for one low price."
Because it's required on PS4.
PlayStation Plus memberships are up more than 200% since the launch of PlayStation 4, which shows that gamers are looking for memberships that offer a multitude of services, across various devices, for one low price."
Because it's required on PS4.
BibiMaghoo
Member
Have you never met anyone that chose to do a stupid thing?
I meet them every day of my life. Consumers as an entity, are not smart. Informed consumers are. We are the latter, not the former when it comes to games. Unfortunately, the former vastly outnumber that latter.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
I re-read it again and I see it. Well that just confirms that it was a threat to them and this is the only way they could respond. Ugly really.
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