THANOS IS IN GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY, THE INTERNET IS A SNAKE EATING ITS OWN TAIL

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InsaneZero said:
Basically, if something is announced as a press release and thus reported as actual, official NEWS then the complaints of spoilers go right out the window.
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Even stuff like episode previews or promos, like the Hannibal one mentioned earlier? Stuff like that gets tagged in show threads, but it's official press release fare.

DarkFlow said:
Like I edited into my other post, just because YOU don't know something that does not make it a spoiler. Not following the news does not make it go away, it's still out there.

Also by a lot of people, you mean like 15, because that's all I've seen get there panties in a twist over this.
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Have you watched the show Hannibal?

EDIT: Whoops, you're that dude I'm not allowed to talk to
 
Bearthgar said:
It's a bullshit thread title that shouldn't have been allowed. It spoils a surprise reveal, plain and simple.

I am a huge fan of the Marvel films and actively try to avoid spoilers and this was a crappy way to get this confirmation.

I get that some people think it's not a big deal because it is "known", but it's still shitty.
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The producer of the movie said very plainly that Thanos would be in this movie a year ago. This is year-old news. This thread was the exact opposite of a surprise reveal.

And nobody on this forum gave a shit about "spoilers" two months ago when they announced the casting for THIS MOVIE.
 
DarkFlow said:
Like I edited into my other post, just because YOU don't know something that does not make it a spoiler.
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It is a spoiler when people are trying to go into the movie fresh with no information. I think it's unfair to not consider other people just because you follow news. We have GOTG threads to discuss these things, why do we need an entirely separate thread to discuss this thus spoiling something people are trying to avoid?

And also, I have been far from aggressive about this. I'm disappointed I was spoiled and that's it. I just think people are being dismissive of people who wanted to go into the movie fresh.
 
Wazzy said:
I said that not everyone follows GOTG news and castings. That's why people don't click on certain threads to avoid these things.

If Thanos was playing an important role in the movie and was advertised in it throughout every trailer and commercial and promotional artwork, I can see how saying people overreacting is silly. But it's pretty evident a lot of people didn't know about the reveal and are not happy it was spoiled.
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Let's say that I don't follow news about Avengers 2, and only watched the teaser. Should I be angry that I heard about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver being in that movie from a second-hand source?

It's not spoilers if official sources have already revealed this information beforehand.
 
InsaneZero said:
Let's say that I don't follow news about Avengers 2, and only watched the teaser. Should I be angry that I heard about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver being in that movie from a second-hand source?

It's not spoilers if official sources have already revealed this information beforehand.
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Well Avengers 2 is ruined now, thanks man.
 
InsaneZero said:
Let's say that I don't follow news about Avengers 2, and only watched the teaser. Should I be angry that I heard about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver being in that movie from a second-hand source?

It's not spoilers if official sources have already revealed this information beforehand.
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The difference with those two is they are central characters in the next movie. You literally CAN'T avoid knowing they're in it. Everything from trailers to promotional artwork will show them.

But oh well. It doesn't matter anyways debating this because I know now and not much I can do. I'm not super offended by this, I'm just shocked it was allowed to be a thread title.
 
Wazzy said:
The difference with those two is they are central characters in the next movie. You literally CAN'T avoid knowing they're in it. Everything from trailers to promotional artwork will show them.

But oh well. It doesn't matter anyways debating this because I know now and not much I can do. I'm not super offended by this, I'm just shocked it was allowed to be a thread title.
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Wazzy, I know you're shocked about the title, but please read the whole thread if you haven't already. It's gold.
 
Wazzy said:
Cut it out with passive aggressive crap.

We have threads for information on movies for a reason, it's to avoid spoiling people about stuff that happens within movies/tv shows/ etc.



I said that not everyone follows GOTG news and castings. That's why people don't click on certain threads to avoid these things.

If Thanos was playing an important role in the movie and was advertised in it throughout every trailer and commercial and promotional artwork, I can see how saying people overreacting is silly. But it's pretty evident a lot of people didn't know about the reveal and are not happy it was spoiled.
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We literally already had a topic stating Thanos being in GotG in the title in which some of the people complaining about being spoiled in this very thread posted in that thread without any complaint.

Also, you not following news does not make all news you don't hear "spoilers". This is not a spoiler, it is not intended to be a secret or a reveal in any capacity, there is no interest in the makers of the movie to have surprised viewers with the existance of this character in this movie.
 
Wazzy said:
It is a spoiler when people are trying to go into the movie fresh with no information. I think it's unfair to not consider other people just because you follow news. We have GOTG threads to discuss these things, why do we need an entirely separate thread to discuss this thus spoiling something people are trying to avoid?

And also, I have been far from aggressive about this. I'm disappointed I was spoiled and that's it. I just think people are being dismissive of people who wanted to go into the movie fresh.
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I think my biggest issue is that the bolder is vague and ultimately meaningless. What does "no information" even mean. At a certain point, you need basic setup information to even know why something is worth watching. I understand that nobody is referring to "going in blind" in a literal sense. But plenty of information is disseminated at various points in the marketing cycle to drum up interest. Obviously, not every bit of info is a spoiler, right?
 
Steve Youngblood said:
I think my biggest issue is that the bolder is vague and ultimately meaningless. What does "no information" even mean. At a certain point, you need basic setup information to even know why something is worth watching. I understand that nobody is referring to "going in blind" in a literal sense. But plenty of information is disseminated at various points in the marketing cycle to drum up interest. Obviously, not every bit of info is a spoiler, right?
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No and that's fair. For me, I just don't see how Thanos reveal fits into normal information.

I could be wrong, mind you, and be letting my shock affect how I see this. It's just this is one thing I don't see promoted in anything until I saw this thread.


Not The Droid You're Looking For said:
Wazzy, I know you're shocked about the title, but please read the whole thread if you haven't already. It's gold.
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Buuuuuuuuu- I wanted to wait until after I've seen the movie. :(

I'll give it a read when I get home from work. There better not be any spoilers! I've put my full trust in.
 
besada said:
He eventually gets caught and meets Jodie Foster.
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You tagged this. Are you getting soft now?

Steve Youngblood said:
I think my biggest issue is that the bolder is vague and ultimately meaningless. What does "no information" even mean. At a certain point, you need basic setup information to even know why something is worth watching. I understand that nobody is referring to "going in blind" in a literal sense. But plenty of information is disseminated at various points in the marketing cycle to drum up interest. Obviously, not every bit of info is a spoiler, right?
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you get the benefit of erring on the side of caution though, right? Just because you can't avoid spoilers indefinitely doesn't mean you go around saying what you believe isn't a spoiler to everybody. I've looked at that leaked Interstellar script that's accessible to anyone; do I get to dictate what others consider sensitive material? Where does the impetus for action fall?
 
Wazzy said:
The difference with those two is they are central characters in the next movie. You literally CAN'T avoid knowing they're in it. Everything from trailers to promotional artwork will show them.

But oh well. It doesn't matter anyways debating this because I know now and not much I can do. I'm not super offended by this, I'm just shocked it was allowed to be a thread title.
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Well, if I actually don't follow Avengers 2, but just watched the teaser because it was on youtube, then I can avoid it just fine. The point I'm trying to make here is that people are making an arbitrary judgment of what constitutes a spoiler based on their own personal anecdotal observations, and that is by no means a reasonable standard.
 
Wazzy said:
The difference with those two is they are central characters in the next movie. You literally CAN'T avoid knowing they're in it. Everything from trailers to promotional artwork will show them.

But oh well. It doesn't matter anyways debating this because I know now and not much I can do. I'm not super offended by this, I'm just shocked it was allowed to be a thread title.
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Thanos is a cosmic entity that has a direct relationship to several of the characters in Marvel's first Marvel cosmic film. He is Gamora's father. He might not be a central character, but he is prominent enough to not be a surprise.
 
Your feelings do not matter if you want to go on a media black out. If you go on a media black out and learn that Thanos (who was announced to be in the movie) is in the movie then you have no one to blame but yourself. Your feelings are not important in this matter. Grow up. It's a movie.
 
InsaneZero said:
Well, if I actually don't follow Avengers 2, but just watched the teaser because it was on youtube, then I can avoid it just fine. The point I'm trying to make here is that people are making an arbitrary judgment of what constitutes a spoiler based on their own personal anecdotal observations, and that is by no means a reasonable standard.
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Well, according to the one true Bible, Wikipedia, "[Spoilers] can also be used to refer to any piece of information regarding any part of a given media that a potential consumer would not want to know beforehand", but if Marvel wants us to know that Brolin is in this, then do you still get to say it's a spoiler as it's something you didn't want to know? What if I didn't want to know any of the character's names, or who directed the movie, are those spoilers?
 
Spring-Loaded said:
You tagged this. Are you getting soft now?



you get the benefit of erring on the side of caution though, right? Just because you can't avoid spoilers indefinitely doesn't mean you go around saying what you believe isn't a spoiler to everybody. I've looked at that leaked Interstellar script that's accessible to anyone; do I get to dictate what others consider sensitive material? Where does the impetus for action fall?
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and there's the key word that completely seperates it from officially released information
 
InsaneZero said:
Well, if I actually don't follow Avengers 2, but just watched the teaser because it was on youtube, then I can avoid it just fine. The point I'm trying to make here is that people are making an arbitrary judgment of what constitutes a spoiler based on their own personal anecdotal observations, and that is by no means a reasonable standard.
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Putting it into thread titles doesn't seem too far, regardless of what you think of the spoiler? Preview material or source material for adaptations being fair game isn't a reasonable standard going by examples posted in this thread. This GotG inclusion is, objectively, no different from stuff shown in tv show previews, but those have to be tagged in show threads, and aren't put into thread titles.

I'm reminded of the pseudo-rule posted a while ago about depressing news stories. "Puppies raped, cooked alive in front of owner" in the thread title was frowned upon and less blatant titles were encouraged. It's a gray area of course and can't be enforced, but surely there's a different, yet viable approach to titles in this situation.

The Silver said:
and there's the key word that compeltely seperates it from officially released information
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How is "official released" functionally different from leaked though? Spoilers are officially released in the form of previews all the time.
 
Spring-Loaded said:
Putting it into thread titles doesn't seem too far, regardless of what you think of the spoiler? Preview material or source material for adaptations being fair game isn't a reasonable standard going by examples posted in this thread. This GotG inclusion is, objectively, no different from stuff shown in tv show previews, but those have to be tagged in show threads, and aren't put into thread titles.

I'm reminded of the pseudo-rule posted a while ago about depressing news stories. "Puppies raped, cooked alive in front of owner" in the thread title was frowned upon and less blatant titles were encouraged. It's a gray area of course and can't be enforced, but surely there's a different, yet viable approach to titles in this situation.
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September 18, 2012: "Thanos will be in Guardians of the Galaxy"

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/co...nfirmed-guardians-galaxy-movie-and-avengers-2


July 22, 2013: Feige confirms

http://m.totalfilm.com/news/kevin-f...ear-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-comic-con-2013
 
Figured this would be a far bigger deal in the movie given how people were reacting, not him being on a display twice and name dropped twice before he's even fully seen.
 
InsaneZero said:
Well, if I actually don't follow Avengers 2, but just watched the teaser because it was on youtube, then I can avoid it just fine. The point I'm trying to make here is that people are making an arbitrary judgment of what constitutes a spoiler based on their own personal anecdotal observations, and that is by no means a reasonable standard.
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I understand your point. I'm just saying SW and QS aren't good examples because the chance of avoiding anything about them is extremely small. They'll be on promotional artwork, commercials and posters. You going to see the movie, you spot a poster and you'll see them.
Not The Droid You're Looking For said:
No spoilers. It was GAF (mainly mods) going crazy. Thanos took over GAF for a while thanks to this thread.
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Ahhhh well I'll give it a read then. I'll just try and turn this into a posititve and now speculate what he does in the movie. :D
 
So this thread is literally all about spoilers? Great because in the game of thrones...
joffrey is killed by martian manhunter but not really since it was all a clever ploy by Lex Luthor. Season 4 ends with Joffrey and Lex ruling the 7 kingdoms. Superboy was suppose to stop him but he got cancelled during the red wedding ;(

Also Scarlet Witch in an Avengers movie before an Xmen movie? Thats some bullshit. Oh well, its Scarlet Witch, I'll love her regardless.

Also Kyle XY
clone
 
Crunched said:
September 18, 2012: "Thanos will be in Guardians of the Galaxy"

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/co...nfirmed-guardians-galaxy-movie-and-avengers-2
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This just tells me it was revealed a while ago. Just quoting it because it was the one post I think best summed up the reasoning for why Thanos isn't a spoiler

SonofdonCD said:
I don't think there should be any real hard rule for this type of thing. I think you have to look at each case individually, and determine whether it's thread-worthy.

You have to look at how this info was delivered (was it a rumor or officially announced?), how long ago it was discovered (after a few months it should be fair game), how many outlets disseminated the info, and whether the info itself is vital to the enjoyment of the project in the first watch/read/listen/play/etc. (or not).

I think in this particular case, this info was given out by Marvel themselves, months ago, every major (and minor) entertainment news outlet covered this that whole time, and knowledge of Thanos prior to seeing GOTG will not ruin the enjoyment of watching the entire movie (though it would be cool to go in fresh, sometimes the anticipation knowing beforehand can also be just as cool) makes it fair game in my eyes.
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Steve Youngblood said:
And with this, I'm officially done taking this conversation seriously.
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Don't forget your ball
 
J10 said:
Original thread title had the words "first look" in it, for the picture in the OP. It was known that he's in it, but this thread was about what he looked like.
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I still don't get the point of that, the movie comes out tommorrow not in months just post it in the official thread.

Also it's a image taken from a screening not official promo picture put out by Marvel.
 
Spring-Loaded said:
Putting it into thread titles doesn't seem too far, regardless of what you think of the spoiler? Preview material or source material for adaptations being fair game isn't a reasonable standard going by examples posted in this thread. This GotG inclusion is, objectively, no different from stuff shown in tv show previews, but those have to be tagged in show threads, and aren't put into thread titles.

I'm reminded of the pseudo-rule posted a while ago about depressing news stories. "Puppies raped, cooked alive in front of owner" in the thread title was frowned upon and less blatant titles were encouraged. It's a gray area of course and can't be enforced, but surely there's a different, yet viable approach to titles in this situation.



How is "official released" functionally different from leaked though? Spoilers are officially released in the form of previews all the time.
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Serious question, can you answer anything without another question?
 
Spring-Loaded said:
Putting it into thread titles doesn't seem too far, regardless of what you think of the spoiler? Preview material or source material for adaptations being fair game isn't a reasonable standard going by examples posted in this thread. This GotG inclusion is, objectively, no different from stuff shown in tv show previews, but those have to be tagged in show threads, and aren't put into thread titles.

How is "official released" functionally different from leaked though? Spoilers are officially released in the form of previews all the time.
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A movie is relatively self-contained, whereas "next episode" TV promos can spoil previous episodes for those who haven't caught up.
 
Spring-Loaded said:
Putting it into thread titles doesn't seem too far, regardless of what you think of the spoiler? Preview material or source material for adaptations being fair game isn't a reasonable standard going by examples posted in this thread. This GotG inclusion is, objectively, no different from stuff shown in tv show previews, but those have to be tagged in show threads, and aren't put into thread titles.

I'm reminded of the pseudo-rule posted a while ago about depressing news stories. "Puppies raped, cooked alive in front of owner" in the thread title was frowned upon and less blatant titles were encouraged. It's a gray area of course and can't be enforced, but surely there's a different, yet viable approach to titles in this situation.



How is "official released" functionally different from leaked though? Spoilers are officially released in the form of previews all the time.
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come on man you really gonna sit there and honestly ask how its different?

how something that wasn't intended by the creators or marketers to get out and be seen is different from something they put out themselves as a form of promotion? It explains itself.

and really, an entire leaked script compared to a character casting announced months ago
 
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