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[NotTheGuyYouKill]

what... what happened in this thread.

 

[a secret-boss]

Before I saw the movie. This thread was grating. I wanted to click at the same time I'm trying for media black out. annoying how it keeps popping up on first page.

 

[Brakke]

I'm pretty sure I've said it myself.

I think around TDKR, somebody came into the thread saying

Spoiler

ALFRED DIES ALFRED DIES ALFRED DIES.

After he was banned, a GAFFER who had already seen the film assured everybody not to worry, because Alfred doesn't die.

I didn't want to know either piece of information.

Well... you didn't know either piece of information, really.

And what is even the point of a thread about a movie if you're not going to talk about the movie in it. Like, you were in there presumably to learn things about the movie, but then upset that you learned things?

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Well... you didn't know either piece of information, really.

And what is even the point of a thread about a movie if you're not going to talk about the movie in it. Like, you were in there presumably to learn things about the movie, but then upset that you learned things?

 

[Volimar]

Can't believe this thread is still open.

 

[Brakke]

Can't believe this thread is still open.

Ho can you close that which has no beginning, and no end?

 

[bananafactory]

Ho can you close that which has no beginning, and no end?

Cut off the head, two more take it's place.

 

[Log4Girlz]

He was played by this guy, Damion Poitier.

They need to use him for something else, he looks amazing.

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

They need to use him for something else, he looks amazing.

He's a sexy beast I can tell ya that

 

[Duane Cunningham]

They need to use him for something else, he looks amazing.

T'Challa gets my vote.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

T'Challa gets my vote.

Mar-Vell!

 

[Grimsen]

Time is a flat circle

Spoiler

with the Time Gem.

 

[Celegus]

Most of these appear to be English words, but... I'm just gonna go back the way I came.

 

[Askani]

T'Challa gets my vote.

Mar-Vell!

IMO he's got the look of Rhodey more than Don Cheadle or Terrence Howard by miles.

 

[Cornballer]

To wrap things up:

Here's a quick summary of the thread for those that haven't been following along:

Guy posts a picture of Thanos in Guardians of the Galaxy, titles thread "First Look at Thanos in Guardians of the Galaxy."

Couple people say "cool," couple other people go "Spoiler right in the title bro?" Thus ensues the back and forth over whether or not it's actually a spoiler.

Duckroll comes in and clarifies this isn't a spoiler, expresses frustration at knee-jerk spoilerphobia making legitimate discussion harder to engage in. People then begin to debate whether or not Marvel's announcing that the character is in the movie counts as a spoiler or not.

The typical arguments over perspective and consideration break out as people demand others keep their spoiler-blackouts in mind when having conversations, and others expressing their frustration at having to tiptoe around spoilerphobes who are trying to expand the definition of spoiler to include things movie studios are promoting and making public themselves.

Adding to the evidence that shows Marvel doesn't consider this a spoiler, and that the knowledge of Thanos' appearance in Guardians of the Galaxy is months old, a thread is discovered with an even more blatant title, and within that thread are some of the most vocal spoilerphobes, none of whom are acting like the information about Josh Brolin as Thanos in Guardians of the Galaxy is a spoiler.

Then, as a means to comment on the total absurdity of people who have literally forgotten the non-spoiler they didn't think was a spoiler, complaining about being spoiled with information they've already known and forgotten - some mods went and changed thread titles to be Thanos-centric, including the Steam thread on Gaming side - where complaints were minimal, and even the complaints that DID occur were nowhere near as vitriolic or strenuous as the ones in this thread.

As a result of the thread-title changing, Besada is demodded.

It's a shame about Besada.


Steve Youngblood with a well-reasoned take on spoilers and internet forums:

I think the crux of what we're trying to nail down is to have some perspective. I think the key difference between the two threads is that -- given that this is so close to release -- I think people just assume that this is probably a spoiler (because I didn't know before). And well, if I've gone this far and was going to see the movie anyway, I probably knew everything I needed to know.

But what is a spoiler, anyway. Traditionally, I think we would probably definitely call it something like revealing significant information that the entire film builds up to. Like answering who Luke's father is. Or who Keyser Soze is. Or what Rosebud refers to. Or what the twist is in a Shyamalan. Obviously, we need not limit ourselves to plot points this significant, but I think this is absolutely the primary concern here. Not that spoiling stuff about the above makes the films unwatchable, but it detracts from the experience seeing as how these are all central events and themes for the stories.

Now, at the other end of the spectrum, we agree that there's a lot of basic information that needs to be disseminated. I mean, this is obvious. I don't need to explain that one doesn't simply go up to a ticket counter and purchase two seats to "A Movie" wherein nothing is known until it starts, and if I see a credit that reveals the actors before they show up in the film I'm going to be pissed that the opening credits spoil who is starring in the movie. The movie is set up for you before you go in. Even if you're just a casual fan who doesn't geek out about the goings on of the silver screen, you know some things about the movie. You probably know some of the actors/actresses. You have a general idea of what the premise is. You probably know what genre it's supposed to be. You may know the director. You may know a lot more than this, but the short of it is that nobody goes in blind, even if they haven't followed all the news of the film.

Now, somewhere in between "having studied every frame of the film" and "I've never heard of this before" lies information that can be considered "spoiler-ish." I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all definition that will cover this. I don't think there really needs to be. I understand that the tone we've set may seem dismissive to some, but there's also been a growing sentiment on the part of the staff that concerns about what constitutes a spoiler are getting out of hand. The pushback you see is a result of that. That's not to say that I'm a fan of every rude post I've seen, mind you. But while the end here may have one side seeming kind of smug and childish, the beginning of the thread was overrun with whining that the very premise of the thread was heinous. And if ruining someone's enjoyment of a movie via unfair spoilers is a concern we need to worry about, the opposite extreme wherein this thread's title needs to be "Spoilers - Picture of person in film" for fear of ruining someone's enjoyment is also absurd. Finally, to circle back to the point about perspective, can people quantify why this would hinder enjoyment of the film?

In general, make an attempt to be reasonable and have some perspective when it comes to spoilers. Keep in mind that the spoiler guidelines in different areas on GAF are typically pretty well established, so follow those accordingly. If you have questions, send a PM to a mod. Be nice and respectful to each other, and let's all enjoy some movies, games, and tv together.

 

[Kabouter]

Also, re-watch Commando.