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[Sketchbag]

Amon, I would consider, as the biggest physical threat. He can control the energy in his body with sheer will while affecting others. He can easily survive lightning because he redirects it within his body so he doesn't go down like a punk bitch (like some characters we know).

Zaheer seems like your typical real life religious guy who takes the Quran, Bible, etc. are literal truth.

 

[Veelk]

those are good points. i think it should be really apparent that he's not as good a fighter as anyone from atla. i don't think anyone really is nor should be (except maybe lin). i doubt he is cool with straight-up murdering anyone either, which ozai and azula thought was a pretty rad idea. the only time he used it against a human opponent was when the alternative was amon winning. maybe that was a rookie mistake and he realizes he could have killed the dude. maybe being a cop instilled the belief of taking someone in for questioning versus beating them into submission.

so it's probably all three of those things in tandem. at least azula and ozai had time to know how to work their lightning into fighting techniques. mako wouldn't really have the time or skill to do that (who would spar against a lightningbender?). strategically it would make no sense if he just starts shooting off crap.

Lightning bending isn't a one hit kill. It obviously can be, if it's struck in the spine, but Zuko managed to get up after being struck straight in the middle of his chest. And Mako himself hit Amon point blank, he survived and was fine after a few minutes. And if he doesn't feel it's justified when the alternative is his brother being killed as well as maybe the Avatar/his ex girlfriend being captured/killed, then...idk, I feel in those situations Mako would go all out. Besides that, you're speculating. There is nothing suggesting that Mako would have anything in particular against killing. People have natural instincts that resist that, but I would have thought Lin would put him though some kind of training for that as a police officer.

And with the way his lightning bending works, it's pretty much just aim and shoot. All he needs for practice is a target board.

 

[Sketchbag]

Lightning bending isn't a one hit kill. It obviously can be, if it's struck in the spine, but Zuko managed to get up after being struck straight in the middle of his chest. And Mako himself hit Amon point blank, he survived and was fine after a few minutes. And if he doesn't feel it's justified when the alternative is his brother being killed as well as maybe the Avatar/his ex girlfriend being captured/killed, then...idk, I feel in those situations Mako would go all out. Besides that, you're speculating. There is nothing suggesting that Mako would have anything in particular against killing. People have natural instincts that resist that, but I would have thought Lin would put him though some kind of training for that as a police officer.

And with the way his lightning bending works, it's pretty much just aim and shoot. All he needs for practice is a target board.

Zuko knew the lightning was coming and was prepared to re-direct it with the technique Iroh taught him. Azula changed targets at the last second to Katara. Zuko ran into it all prepped up but it didn't 1 hit KO because he was prepared for it but wasn't grounded himself. It is a 1-shot KO if you're not prepared. Amon is able to control his own body's energy with blood bending. That's how he was able to resist his brother's blood bending. It works in the same way how the Avatar State can allow the Avatar to enter god mode and control the energy and expand it.

 

[Novel Mike]

Is Amon still the best Korra Villain? Yes.

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That Murder-Suicide at the end of Book One was fucking dark even for a kids show.

I'm not too sure on Zaheer though, there's gotta be more to this guy. Hopefully the last few episodes redeem him as a villain.

I'm still expecting him to pop up at some point, he'd make on hell of an ally

 

[Sketchbag]

I'm still expecting him to pop up at some point, he'd make on hell of an ally

Amon is essentially the second strongest bender besides The Avatar. Only other blood benders and the Avatar can manipulate the energy in their body to resist it. If Amon allied with Korra (if he was alive) and was to fight Zaheer and the gang, it would be so easy. He would stand still with his hands behind his back and they would fall to the ground crippled. He would walk up and take their bending. Game over.

 

[m_shortpants]

Amon is essentially the second strongest bender besides The Avatar. Only other blood benders and the Avatar can manipulate the energy in their body to resist it. If Amon allied with Korra (if he was alive) and was to fight Zaheer and the gang, it would be so easy. He would stand still with his hands behind his back and they would fall to the ground crippled. He would walk up and take their bending. Game over.

Amon is the most OP character in the series, by far. Other than the Avatar of course.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

I just got caught up to episode 9. I still don't understand

Spoiler

the red lotus'

motivation. I understand what he said, I comprehend the words, but

Spoiler

"The world should naturally be in chaos" makes absolutely no sense.

Are they just crazy?

It's been said that the longer a government structure stays in place.The more it tends to move away from serving the interests of it's subjects, and towards serving the interests of the ruling class.

That's why so many governments in our history have been revolted and overthrown.

Zaheer believes that the current ruling class is extremely corrupt and needs to be removed.

And we've actually witnessed this over the course of both series. Almost all the rulers we've encountered have been either corrupt, indulgent, or incompetent.

Compare that to the air nation which didn't have a strong government system in place, from what little we've seen of it seemed like a very peaceful environment.

 

[Veelk]

Zuko knew the lightning was coming and was prepared to re-direct it with the technique Iroh taught him. Azula changed targets at the last second to Katara. Zuko ran into it all prepped up but it didn't 1 hit KO because he was prepared for it but wasn't grounded himself. It is a 1-shot KO if you're not prepared. Amon is able to control his own body's energy with blood bending. That's how he was able to resist his brother's blood bending. It works in the same way how the Avatar State can allow the Avatar to enter god mode and control the energy and expand it.

That...isn't an explanation. At all. Lightning redirect is only going to work as specified: Grab with one hand, redirect with other. If you don't do that, it's the same as if the lightning hit you normally. We know this because we clearly see that the lightning hits Zuko and doesn't go anywhere, so it wasn't redirected. And your explanation for Amon is nonsense. Other than not being supported by the show in any way, unless bloodbending includes the ability to make blood nonconductable, it's not going to work.

 

[Trey]

I think Zuko slightly redirected it. Basically he did enough to still be knocked out and setup Katara v Azula, but not be killed.

 

[Sketchbag]

That...isn't an explanation. At all. Lightning redirect is only going to work as specified: Grab with one hand, redirect with other. If you don't do that, it's the same as if the lightning hit you normally. We know this because we clearly see that the lightning hits Zuko and doesn't go anywhere, so it wasn't redirected. And your explanation for Amon is nonsense. Other than not being supported by the show in any way, unless bloodbending includes the ability to make blood nonconductable, it's not going to work.

No, but Zuko was able to control it to some degree and mitigate the damage. And lightning finds it way to ground. The way Iroh teaches him is to shoot it out through him. The lightning could be mitigated through Iroh's technique even if it didn't go out.

You have to provide a scenario where either the recipient isn't performing Iroh's technique (and doesn't do it fully) or isn't against a master Blood Bender who can bend with his mind.

You're re-directing the the lightning's energy. If Amon can control the water molecules in his body to control his blood with the sheer force of will he can control the energy trajectory of lightning through his body. It's the same as when Amon CLEARLY RESISTS AND USES HIS BLOOD BENDING to counter his brother's blood bending. He isn't just taking the blood bending and walking through it, he's using his own because it's already been shown and announced he can blood bend without moving. Think of him as Combustion Man and a proper bender in one.

 

[Veelk]

I think Zuko slightly redirected it. Basically he did enough to still be knocked out and setup Katara v Azula, but not be killed.

Then where exactly did it go? I am looking at the footage now. The lightning just hits him, and down he goes. Lightning redirect doesn't negate the lightning, it just keeps it going. It's also supposed to be a very controlled technique, not something you can do when you are being electrocuted, because you have to conciously keep it moving while it's in your body.

those are good points. i think it should be really apparent that he's not as good a fighter as anyone from atla. i don't think anyone really is nor should be (except maybe lin). i doubt he is cool with straight-up murdering anyone either, which ozai and azula thought was a pretty rad idea. the only time he used it against a human opponent was when the alternative was amon winning. maybe that was a rookie mistake and he realizes he could have killed the dude. maybe being a cop instilled the belief of taking someone in for questioning versus beating them into submission.

so it's probably all three of those things in tandem. at least azula and ozai had time to know how to work their lightning into fighting techniques. mako wouldn't really have the time or skill to do that (who would spar against a lightningbender?). strategically it would make no sense if he just starts shooting off crap.

Lightning bending isn't a one hit kill. It obviously can be, if it's struck in the spine, but Zuko managed to get up after being struck straight in the middle of his chest. And Mako himself hit Amon point blank, he survived and was fine after a few minutes. And if he doesn't feel it's justified when the alternative is his brother being killed as well as maybe the Avatar/his ex girlfriend being captured/killed, then...idk, I feel in those situations Mako would go all out. Besides that, you're speculating. There is nothing suggesting that Mako would have anything in particular against killing. People have natural instincts that resist that, but I would have thought Lin would put him though some kind of training for that as a police officer.

And with the way his lightning bending works, it's pretty much just aim and shoot. All he needs for practice is a target board.

No, but Zuko was able to control it to some degree and mitigate the damage. And lightning finds it way to ground. The way Iroh teaches him is to shoot it out through him. The lightning could be mitigated through Iroh's technique even if it didn't go out.

Nope. You are literally making this up because there is nothing in the show suggesting that this is possible to do.

You have to provide a scenario where either the recipient isn't performing Iroh's technique (and doesn't do it fully) or isn't against a master Blood Bender who can bend with his mind.

You're re-directing the the lightning's energy. If Amon can control the water molecules in his body to control his blood with the sheer force of will he can control the energy trajectory of lightning through his body. It's the same as when Amon CLEARLY RESISTS AND USES HIS BLOOD BENDING to counter his brother's blood bending. He isn't just taking the blood bending and walking through it, he's using his own because it's already been shown and announced he can blood bend without moving.[/QUOTE]

Also, you are making things up here. For one, we DO know that it's possible to muscle through bloodbending. Korra does it at the end against Amon. For another, there is no reason that you should think because you can control blood, you can control an electrostatic discharge. Everything you are using to justify your scenerios is literally fanfiction.

 

[Trey]

Then where exactly did it go? I am looking at the footage now. The lightning just hits him, and down he goes. Lightning redirect doesn't negate the lightning, it just keeps it going. It's also supposed to be a very controlled technique, not something you can do when you are being electrocuted, because you have to conciously keep it moving while it's in your body.

I strongly recall some lightning discharging from his hand as he rolls over, but if you're looking at it now I'll take your word for it, lol.

 

[ObbyDent]

We know this because we clearly see that the lightning hits Zuko and doesn't go anywhere, so it wasn't redirected.

It DID go somewhere. Re-watch the episode:

It was redirected up towards the sky, as seen in this screenshot. If you still don't believe me:

http://youtu.be/oCXHi0kFucc?t=3m6s

I strongly recall some lightning discharging from his hand as he rolls over, but if you're looking at it now I'll take your word for it, lol.

He's lying. I just proved it with the screens and video above.

 

[m_shortpants]

Then where exactly did it go? I am looking at the footage now. The lightning just hits him, and down he goes. Lightning redirect doesn't negate the lightning, it just keeps it going. It's also supposed to be a very controlled technique, not something you can do when you are being electrocuted, because you have to conciously keep it moving while it's in your body.

When Zuko gets hit by Azula, he gets knocked down, they show a shot of the capital and lightning goes into the air. It was a botched redirect.

 

[Sketchbag]

Then where exactly did it go? I am looking at the footage now. The lightning just hits him, and down he goes. Lightning redirect doesn't negate the lightning, it just keeps it going. It's also supposed to be a very controlled technique, not something you can do when you are being electrocuted, because you have to conciously keep it moving while it's in your body.

You're clearly trying to be way too technical with this show. There's no reasoning with you. Zuko did the stance but Azula targeted Katara instead. Zuko was in the frame of mind to redirect the ligntning. He moved and thus it only mitigates it and the lightning does damage but courses through him to the ground (ya know the ground he is standing on... where all lightning goes).

If you want to get super technical, there's no specified range on bending so a master earth bender can theoretically pull the moon at the earth. There's no evidence it cannot since the universe's rules aren't that clear for it so it must be true.

 

[zeemumu]

They made it pretty clear with Iroh that you can take a direct hit from lightning and still survive. I think Zuko was only able to partially redirect Azula's so he didn't take the full force but wasn't able to redirect the rest of it, either.

And from that clip above I think you can see Zuko fire it back out right before he hits the ground.

 

[Kangi]

Didn't a lot of the lightning shot toward Zuko then get discharged toward the sky? Didn't seem to be nearly the direct hit that Aang experienced.

Also, Azula hit Iroh in the chest with fire, no?

 

[Veelk]

I strongly recall some lightning discharging from his hand as he rolls over, but if you're looking at it now I'll take your word for it, lol.

I see that, but I think that's just static surrounding him as a visual indicator. I mean, every time someone lightning bends. I don't think that's lightning being redirected anywhere, it's just static that surrounds a person every time there is lightning within.

You're clearly trying to be way too technical with this show. There's no reasoning with you. Zuko did the stance but Azula targeted Katara instead. Zuko was in the frame of mind to redirect the ligntning. He moved and thus it only mitigates it and the lightning does damage but courses through him to the ground (ya know the ground he is standing on... where all lightning goes).

If you want to get super technical, there's no specified range on bending so a master earth bender can theoretically pull the moon at the earth. There's no evidence it cannot since the universe's rules aren't that clear for it so it must be true.

*sigh*

There is plenty reasoning with me, otherwise I wouldn't be able to provide so many reasons for why your theory is inadequate. What you describe is not how lightning redirect has been described to work. It is incongruent with what you are saying.

And yes, the moon thing is obviously possible, there just hasn't been an earth bender that's strong enough to do it. Maybe the avatar could, but even that's pushing it. But yes, your right, the moon is bendable.

....Moon Bending. You have finally found your calling, Bolin.

 

[Sketchbag]

Then where exactly did it go? I am looking at the footage now. The lightning just hits him, and down he goes. Lightning redirect doesn't negate the lightning, it just keeps it going. It's also supposed to be a very controlled technique, not something you can do when you are being electrocuted, because you have to conciously keep it moving while it's in your body.



Lightning bending isn't a one hit kill. It obviously can be, if it's struck in the spine, but Zuko managed to get up after being struck straight in the middle of his chest. And Mako himself hit Amon point blank, he survived and was fine after a few minutes. And if he doesn't feel it's justified when the alternative is his brother being killed as well as maybe the Avatar/his ex girlfriend being captured/killed, then...idk, I feel in those situations Mako would go all out. Besides that, you're speculating. There is nothing suggesting that Mako would have anything in particular against killing. People have natural instincts that resist that, but I would have thought Lin would put him though some kind of training for that as a police officer.

And with the way his lightning bending works, it's pretty much just aim and shoot. All he needs for practice is a target board.



Nope. You are literally making this up because there is nothing in the show suggesting that this is possible to do.



You're re-directing the the lightning's energy. If Amon can control the water molecules in his body to control his blood with the sheer force of will he can control the energy trajectory of lightning through his body. It's the same as when Amon CLEARLY RESISTS AND USES HIS BLOOD BENDING to counter his brother's blood bending. He isn't just taking the blood bending and walking through it, he's using his own because it's already been shown and announced he can blood bend without moving.

Also, you are making things up here. For one, we DO know that it's possible to muscle through bloodbending. Korra does it at the end against Amon. For another, there is no reason that you should think because you can control blood, you can control an electrostatic discharge. Everything you are using to justify your scenerios is literally fanfiction.[/QUOTE]

Of course Korra can muscle her way through, she's the god damn Avatar. Aang muscles his way through sort of as well but then becomes immune in the Avatar state. Also, it's been shown Amon isn't great at fighting Air Benders since he's not used to it that's why Tenzin and co were able to knock him away easily after they were freed. Korra using air on him in a hallway would distraught anyone and break their concentration.

It isn't that hard to understand.

 

[ObbyDent]

Didn't a lot of the lightning shot toward Zuko then get discharged toward the sky? Didn't seem to be nearly the direct hit that Aang experienced.

Yes. Look at my post above.

http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/atla/320/962.jpg

 

[ObbyDent]

I see that, but I think that's just static surrounding him as a visual indicator. I mean, every time someone lightning bends. I don't think that's lightning being redirected anywhere, it's just static that surrounds a person every time there is lightning within.

Are you fucking blind? LOOOOOK

http://piandao.org/screenshots/fire/fire20/fire20-1238.jpg

http://piandao.org/screenshots/fire/fire20/fire20-1238.jpg

http://piandao.org/screenshots/fire/fire20/fire20-1238.jpg

http://piandao.org/screenshots/fire/fire20/fire20-1238.jpg

http://youtu.be/oCXHi0kFucc?t=3m6s

http://youtu.be/oCXHi0kFucc?t=3m6s

http://youtu.be/oCXHi0kFucc?t=3m6s

http://youtu.be/oCXHi0kFucc?t=3m6s

 

[Trey]

I think we can all agree that the agni Kai scene is amazing.

 

[Kangi]

Yes. Look at my post above.

http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/atla/320/962.jpg

Link broken for me, but yeah:

 

[Sketchbag]

Are you fucking blind? LOOOOOK

http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/atla/320/962.jpg

http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/atla/320/962.jpg

http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/atla/320/962.jpg

http://dvdscreenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/atla/320/962.jpg

http://youtu.be/oCXHi0kFucc?t=3m6s

http://youtu.be/oCXHi0kFucc?t=3m6s

http://youtu.be/oCXHi0kFucc?t=3m6s

http://youtu.be/oCXHi0kFucc?t=3m6s

I second this, it does look like he did redirect it or else the lightning wouldn't go anywhere like how when Aang gets hits with it. When Aang got hit and died it didn't fly off randomly.

 

[Joeytj]

That...isn't an explanation. At all. Lightning redirect is only going to work as specified: Grab with one hand, redirect with other. If you don't do that, it's the same as if the lightning hit you normally. We know this because we clearly see that the lightning hits Zuko and doesn't go anywhere, so it wasn't redirected. And your explanation for Amon is nonsense. Other than not being supported by the show in any way, unless bloodbending includes the ability to make blood nonconductable, it's not going to work.

That is absolutely not true. In fact, the show specifically shows the lighting being redirected towards the sky, we see it in a open shot of the Fire Nation capital, right after Zuko jumped in front of Katara to save her. Here's the entire fight and that particular scene.

We are specifically given that shot (of the lighting going up towards the sky) in order to understand that Zuko didn't receive the full brunt of it and managed to redirect it I don't know why you are so stubborn on this.

EDIT: That same visual cue is again used during the Aang vs. Ozai battle. Aang redirects the lightning towards the sky instead of towards Ozai. Iroh also does this when he redirects natural lightning in Book 1. And, of course, Zuko redirects Ozai's lightning right back at him.

 

[DragonKnight]

The shit got re-directed. It is as plain as day.

 

[ObbyDent]

So I guess you lied about watching the scene, eh Veelk?

Dude, you're the one making stuff up.

 

[Sketchbag]

I see that, but I think that's just static surrounding him as a visual indicator. I mean, every time someone lightning bends. I don't think that's lightning being redirected anywhere, it's just static that surrounds a person every time there is lightning within.


*sigh*

There is plenty reasoning with me, otherwise I wouldn't be able to provide so many reasons for why your theory is inadequate. What you describe is not how lightning redirect has been described to work. It is incongruent with what you are saying.

And yes, the moon thing is obviously possible, there just hasn't been an earth bender that's strong enough to do it. Maybe the avatar could, but even that's pushing it. But yes, your right, the moon is bendable.

....Moon Bending. You have finally found your calling, Bolin.

It isn't farfetched for a person who can resist blood bending to re-direct the energy flow in his body. Is it really farfetched this man can re-direct the current of electricity through his blood to the ground? There's already a technique that came from WATER BENDING (blood bending is an extension of water bending) to re-direct lightning. So... Ionno what you yammering about.

 

[Veelk]

Link broken for me, but yeah:

Oh, that....why the hell did that happen? If Zuko did redirect it, he obviously didn't redirect it into the sky...

I guess they did mean to have him redirect it, but the animation team kind of goofed here.

Of course Korra can muscle her way through, she's the god damn Avatar. Aang muscles his way through sort of as well but then becomes immune in the Avatar state. Also, it's been shown Amon isn't great at fighting Air Benders since he's not used to it that's why Tenzin and co were able to knock him away easily after they were freed. Korra using air on him in a hallway would distraught anyone and break their concentration.

It isn't that hard to understand.

uh...the avatar doesn't have superhuman strength. I mean, Korra does, but she trains for that, it's not an avatar ability. Aang never muscled his way through anything. None of the bending arts rely on physical strength, but mental/spiritual strength. It's possible they get that in the AS, but Korra didn't go into the AS in her fight with Amon.

And why you are bringing up his airbending fights is beyond me. She couldn't use the airbending until she broke out of his bloodbending, which she just muscled through...which is BS by itself, but whatever.

It isn't farfetched for a person who can resist blood bending to re-direct the energy flow in his body. Is it really farfetched this man can re-direct the current of electricity through his blood to the ground? There's already a technique that came from WATER BENDING (blood bending is an extension of water bending) to re-direct lightning. So... Ionno what you yammering about.

Chi flows through your body like blood, but that doesn't mean it is blood. When Iroh said he figured out lightning bending, he studied waterbending techniques to do it, but applied the principles to fire bending, not waterbending itself. The wright brothers studied birds and applied the same principles to aircraft. They didn't sprout wings.

 

[ObbyDent]

Oh, that....why the hell did that happen? If Zuko did redirect it, he obviously didn't redirect it into the sky...

I guess they did mean to have him redirect it, but the animation team kind of goofed here.

He put his hand literally towards the sky right before this.

pls stahp

 

[Sketchbag]

Oh, that....why the hell did that happen? If Zuko did redirect it, he obviously didn't redirect it into the sky...

I guess they did mean to have him redirect it, but the animation team kind of goofed here.

Now the animation team doesn't know what their doing? You're not just making shit up.

uh...the avatar doesn't have superhuman strength. I mean, Korra does, but she trains for that, it's not an avatar ability. Aang never muscled his way through anything. None of the bending arts rely on physical strength, but mental/spiritual strength. It's possible they get that in the AS, but Korra didn't go into the AS in her fight with Amon.

And why you are bringing up his airbending fights is beyond me. She couldn't use the airbending until she broke out of his bloodbending, which she just muscled through...which is BS by itself, but whatever.

Umm.. the Avatar is basically god mode. The avatar can split apart a peninsula and use wind to push it into the sea. Aang clearly demonstrates resilience to blood bending during Jakone's trial. Every one else is bended and he's last (if I recall correctly)

Korra was also using air bending something Amon never faced before hence why he gets knocked off the stage so easily by Tenzin and co after their rescue. He was also confronted by his lieutenant who saw him as a bender and is prepared to oust him. Someone who's getting beat on by a bending technique he doesn't know how to counter and knows his movement is about to fall apart isn't going to be concentrating as much as he was during his Revelation Rally.

 

[Veelk]

He put his hand literally towards the sky right before this.

*shrug* That looked very close to parallel with the ground, so it doesn't look to me like it'd fire up into the sky at that angle.

I still say the animation didn't convey it clearly enough, but point taken, he lighting redirected. In violation of established rules, but yes, he clearly did.

Edit: Actually, I'm wrong here. I rewatched it, he DID catch it with his left hand after all. Okay, nevermind, the discussion is moot anyway, since he didn't take it directly to his heart.

 

[SlowRevolution]

people can't stop fighting over mako

 

[Kangi]

Oh, that....why the hell did that happen? If Zuko did redirect it, he obviously didn't redirect it into the sky...

I guess they did mean to have him redirect it, but the animation team kind of goofed here.

Point being that he improperly redirected it; enough to discharge most toward the sky, but taking enough to get KO'd. I don't see how that was so ambiguous... Iroh and later Zuko mentioning the danger of an improper redirection hitting your heart wasn't just random flavor thrown into the dialogue. That's literally what happened.

 

[ObbyDent]

*shrug* That looked very close to parallel with the ground, so it doesn't look to me like it'd fire up into the sky at that angle.

I still say the animation didn't convey it clearly enough, but point taken, he lighting redirected. In violation of established rules, but yes, he clearly did.

Considering you are the only other person who didn't see this, I'd say it's not the animation's fault and more on your end.

 

[Dreadnought]

Oh, that....why the hell did that happen? If Zuko did redirect it, he obviously didn't redirect it into the sky...

I guess they did mean to have him redirect it, but the animation team kind of goofed here.

Come on, you serious?

 

[Sketchbag]

*shrug* That looked very close to parallel with the ground, so it doesn't look to me like it'd fire up into the sky at that angle.

I still say the animation didn't convey it clearly enough, but point taken, he lighting redirected. In violation of established rules, but yes, he clearly did.

Established rules? Just admit you were wrong. Stop digging deeper.

 

[Kangi]

Established rules? Just admit you were wrong. Stop digging deeper.

You know, established rules. Like how improper redirection can harm you. Which was mentioned IN THE FINALE ITSELF.

But no, animation goof! Clearly.

 

[Veelk]

Established rules? Just admit you were wrong. Stop digging deeper.

Nope, it turns out it didn't break established rules, I just didn't really think he grabbed it with his hand. He did. Had he taken it to his chest, and THEN redirected it, yeah, it would have broken established rules. But it didn't, so...

You know, established rules. Like how improper redirection can harm you. Which was mentioned IN THE FINALE ITSELF.

But no, animation goof! Clearly.

Hey, I still say that arm is very close to parallel with the ground, which is why I was confused for why the lightning went up, but I admit it was my error otherwise. I mean, you posted the pics yourself.

Tell me those shots look like they're going in the same direction. One looks like it's shot at a 40 degree angle from the ground at best, the other one looks nearly straight up.

 

[ObbyDent]

Anyway, how about that Korra TV show, eh?

 

[Sketchbag]

Nope, it turns out it didn't break established rules, I just didn't really think he grabbed it with his hand. He did. Had he taken it to his chest, and THEN redirected it, yeah, it would have broken established rules. But it didn't, so...



Hey, I still say that arm is very close to parallel with the ground, which is why I was confused for why the lightning went up, but I admit it was my error otherwise. I mean, you posted the pics yourself.



Tell me those shots look like they're going in the same direction.

Uhm... in the second shot the lightning bends in the air and turns... is it not possible that behind the ledge the lightning tilts more towards the sky? You have no point.

 

[Kangi]

Hey, I still say that arm is very close to parallel with the ground, which is why I was confused for why the lightning went up, but I admit it was my error otherwise. I mean, you posted the pics yourself.



Tell me those shots look like they're going in the same direction. One looks like it's shot at a 40 degree angle from the ground at best, the other one looks nearly straight up.

I didn't post both pictures. Also, is this more clear to you?

 

[Sketchbag]

I didn't post both pictures. Also, is this more clear to you?

Angle's way off. It doesn't even look the same direction. Also, how do we know that's the correct side? He's clearly shooting it out to the right of the image and the lightning in the second photo goes to the left. I don't think that's how lightning works. Do the animators even know how lightning works? Wasn't redirected. Zuko should have died.

 

[Veelk]

Uhm... in the second shot the lightning bends in the air and turns... is it not possible that behind the ledge the lightning tilts more towards the sky? You have no point.

You're being pedantic to try to maintain the argument. That could just as easily be a normal jagged edge, like lightning usually has. If you want to be pedantic about it, at the very edge of the screenshot, it looks like it's going back down, but that's not the point of this debate.

This argument has went from tangent to tangent. Argument was whether or not Zuko redirected it. I clearly see that he did, I just don't agree that the animation made that clear enough. But in regards to the debate it sprouted from, all it means is that I have one less Lightning bending survivor besides Amon.

Now, there has been no established reason for why Amon would survive, if lightning bending is a one shot kill, sans some reaching bloodbending ability speculating, but that doesn't change the point of the original debate, which was that Mako, if he has such a powerful tool, should have probably used it in his fight against the evil armless waterbender.

 

[Peagles]

Angle's way off. It doesn't even look the same direction. Also, how do we know that's the correct side? He's clearly shooting it out to the right of the image and the lightning in the second photo goes to the left. I don't think that's how lightning works. Do the animators even know how lightning works? Wasn't redirected. Zuko should have died.

I'm in stitches here.

 

[Veelk]

I didn't post both pictures. Also, is this more clear to you?

It is, though it's still a bit off. But seriously, pedantic details aside, I conceded to the point like 10 posts ago. Why are we still on this?

 

[AniHawk]

Angle's way off. It doesn't even look the same direction. Also, how do we know that's the correct side? He's clearly shooting it out to the right of the image and the lightning in the second photo goes to the left. I don't think that's how lightning works. Do the animators even know how lightning works? Wasn't redirected. Zuko should have died.

zuko did die. that's why the credits started rolling immediately after it happened. i know this because i watched it.

 

[TangerineCloud]

Just reading this page like

 

[Sketchbag]

You're being pedantic to try to maintain the argument. That could just as easily be a normal jagged edge, like lightning usually has. If you want to be pedantic about it, at the very edge of the screenshot, it looks like it's going back down, but that's not the point of this debate.

This argument has went from tangent to tangent. Argument was whether or not Zuko redirected it. I clearly see that he did, I just don't agree that the animation made that clear enough. But in regards to the debate it sprouted from, all it means is that I have one less Lightning bending survivor besides Amon.

Now, there has been no established reason for why Amon would survive, if lightning bending is a one shot kill, sans some reaching bloodbending ability speculating, but that doesn't change the point of the original debate, which was that Mako, if he has such a powerful tool, should have probably used it in his fight against the evil armless waterbender.

Amon has shown to be resilient to energy affecting his body IE blood bending. Why you think this doesn't apply to lightning is beyond me. You can yell at the sheep til T-Dawg comes home all you want, from the show we see Amon controlling his own body through blood bending to counter his brother's bending. This can be applied to lightning since it's basically energy coursing through his body just like how blood bending courses though it too.

Doesn't matter what the original point was. If a dumb point is brought up we're allowed to respond to it. Doesn't just exist and stay.

Mako isn't that gifted that he can run around and shoot lightning. He isn't a master at it. Why would he stand and do a small prep and be exposed? He isn't fighting kids. He's fighting a dude who can turn stone into lava and a girl who has permanent water arms. Plus, he's not trying to take them down, he's giving them Asami and Korra time to leave. Why try a big move when you can distract them?

 

[Infinite Justice]

Just reading this page like

Indeed.

I see Veelk is making more enemies hahaha