Mihael Mello Keehl
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Where are yall getting the screens why are there no screens in the OP?
Resident Evil HD Remaster confirmed for PS3/PS4/360/XB1/PC
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I can't believe Revelations did that well in Japan.
I wonder how it sold on PC?
You would probably be better off running in windowed at that point.
Ugh, I hated the Crimsons. I noticed very late that I have to burn the killed Zombies, so the Mansion was flooded with them.
The Praiseworthy
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I think that will make the experience a little fresh because it's different and new from the original
You don't think that maybe, just maybe, there is some kind of overlap between 3DS and WiiU owners? Anyway, it sold more on a Nintendo system.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
lol, wow, they really did screw it up.
Hobbestetrician
Member
So I guess it worked out that the copy of REmake that I ordered from a 3rd party seller on Amazon never showed. Will use the refunded money to buy this. Shitty I can't do that on my Wii U, though.
batteryLeakage
Neo Member
That link makes me believe even more strongly that the 3d models used were based upon the original art assets. It is lower poly with lower-res textures of course, but everything shown so accurately mirrors the prerendered backgrounds of the GC version. They are different polygonal meshes sure, but seems likely that they were created in a similar way that low-poly character models are produced from high-poly sculpted meshes in games today.
darkwing-buck
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Nice, can't wait to play this classic in HD
It's not mentioned anywhere, but the reasoning is this:
People would expect 1080p60fps (like RE4HD, because RE4 is more recent than REMAKE)
But:
-Because of umbrella chronicles/DSC, they have the original character data: they can reexport animations at 60 frames
-Yet they only upscaled the 480p background images and capped the framerate at 30, because that's what they run at.
The backgrounds are the culprit for the 30fps cap here (PS4/XboxOne at 30fps).
so they either lost the data, don't know how to rerender at higher resolutions (it's capcom, this would surprise me), don't want to bother.
I don't care about the framerate honestly, but it's our indicator here.
Yep. So 4:3 is the only way to get the full view. Plus, in 16:9 the cropped image has to be zoomed in to fit the screen which doesn't bode well for the already low res backgrounds.
lucius
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Nice I want it, I did not bother reading the after the OP was there any bitching about this remaster too. For me I don't see a problem if you don't want it don't buy it, like many of the classic movies some of these games will be redone/remastered or whatever at some point it's just a mater of time.
Night_Trekker
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That's what I call a timed exclusive.
plasmawave
Banned
I'm gonna go with they don't want to be bothered with it. It's Capcom after all.
Psycho_Mantis
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Resident Evil is still a really big IP in JP. Its still a really big IP WW as well but if we look at JP sales:
RE : 1,194,779
RE2 : 2,154,975
RE3 : 1,383,282
RE4 : 772,251 (PS2 only)
RE5 : 1,026,495 (PS3 only)
RE6 : 847, 763
Neff
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Some locales fare better than others, it's true. But I'm seeing more than the quick fix cheap-out filter job claims others are. They've certainly put in some effort at painting out visible pixels while attempting to retain sharpness where necessary. It's not perfect, but surprisingly effective considering what they have to work with bringing the game up to date, and the volume of visuals the game contains. The re-textured characters look better, too. And I'm guessing these new palettes, contrast reworkings and gradients may be more suitable to HD in ways that SD palettes are not. Code Veronica HD lost and gained in this regard (although RE4 HD was somehow amazing across the board). We'll just have to wait and see.
And looks aside, it's still an incredibly fun game to play.
Of course.
Night_Trekker
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I know this is Capcom we're talking about, but one would hope this would be a big enough success that we might finally get that Resident Evil 2/3 remake we've all been waiting for.
Assuming there's anyone left at Capcom these days who could do it justice.
Assuming there's anyone left at Capcom these days who could do it justice.
TetraGenesis
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Oh gahhhhd... I was so excited for such a short time.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I just hope they do it justice. CVX HD got cool new lighting, RE4 UHD got retooled for 60fps, this one will get..?
Not being funny here but all of this is pure speculation. The resolution of the backdrop imagery possibly has nothing to do with the fps. A technical limitation of the animation rigging to clip to the wallpaper backgrounds might be the reason for 30fps but that in no way gives us reason to downplay the port and say Capcom are incompentant and has lost assets.
Reference to RE4 is pretty pointless too as the engine design requirements for both games will be vastly different since one is a fully realised 3D environment, while the other is a glorified 2D game with perspective trickery to appear 3D.
ShinMaruku
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I don't know how I feel about a non muscle bound Chris punching the shit out of everything...
Night_Trekker
Member
I wonder if they're going to re-dub the game. It's been a long time since the original. Won't they have to pay the original voice actors again if they don't re-dub?
Get out. This is real Chris.
Get out. This is real Chris.
New controls.
Fancy Clown
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'Good', the answer is you feel good about it.
darkstar0155
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also ignoring the huge userbase difference between ps3 and wii u. Not saying it makes sense financially to port it to wii u, more that its a unfair comparison.
Some of REmake's backgrounds are animated. That's the problem.
angular graphics
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I think that's (partly?) because Dolphin does not emulate the lighting correctly.
https://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/issues/detail?id=6051&q=resident
How Dolphin renders RE0/1:
How GC/Wii/WiiU renders RE0/1:
RE5 Chris is the best
GalacticAE
Member
No. I think the game looks best on native hardware on CRT. The picture looks almost too clean on Dolphin and the lighting isn't the same.
Fancy Clown
Member
I don't particularly mind it not being an ultra HD remaster, because at the end of the day it will still be better than playing it on Dolphin on my crummy laptop running at 2x native resolution, 15-20fps average, and lots of glitchy audio. The game was still amazing playing it like that, so I imagine it's gonna be more amazing like this. But seriously Capcom, put this shit on Vita too, and while you're at it give the WiiU some love as well. If you're gonna make up for not putting this game out on any platforms, then you should damn well put it on ALL platforms now.
Fuuuuck no! D:
I always saw that Chris as an embodiment of nostalgia and today's modern gaming culture.
Use Chris - Gather the old school crowd.
Make him buff, steroids and shit - Gather...the gears of war crowd?
Seriously IDK what the hell happened when they decided to make him like that.
So far, no, REmaster seems better.
I took a shot in dolphin, cropped it, added noise like they seem to be using, and change the hues to be a similar color. This is all stuff that would be pretty trivial to do real time in game.
It seems like they're adding a LOT of contrast to the backgrounds. What used to be noticeable details before is now flat blacks in this new HD one.
The character's textures seem much improved though.
Yeah? Ah well in that case I stand corrected on those being the reason for 30fps.
I still hope to be happy with the port. If it means I can migrate my complete RE collection (with zero hopefully following this) to a HD capable machine its all good to me.
The Praiseworthy
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ArkkAngel007
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So...because people have a different opinion, it's bitching? Maybe read past the OP, see the comparisons, and actually bring something to the conversation. Because it's just as bad as the drive bys and worse than those figuring out what is going on behind the remaster.
It is, and the more I look at it the more I'm getting used to how it looks where I won't be bothered much by it.
Right now my major concern falls into how stable the game itself is in transition and how the 'dynamic' camera will affect things.
It doesn't have to. If it was rendered out at 1920x1440 it would look perfect in 16:9 pan and scan.
Pritchardo
Neo Member
Excited for this! But, disappointed by the lack of a retail release, iffy up-scaling, and that 16:9 pan and scan. It's "meh", really.
B-but, those arms! -swoon-
Well, to be fair, they did give him a better haircut in RE5. So, that's something.
B-but, those arms! -swoon-
Well, to be fair, they did give him a better haircut in RE5. So, that's something.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
TANK controls are best controls
I think that's (partly?) because Dolphin does not emulate the lighting correctly.
https://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/issues/detail?id=6051&q=resident
How Dolphin renders RE0/1:
How GC/Wii/WiiU renders RE0/1:
That makes me wonder how some of the screenshots would fare against a real Wii/GC. Hopefully the lighting isn't too far off in my screenshots.
so much this. The two platforms I would want to play this game on are sadly absent.
I was way more excited about this yesterday when it was just a rumor, because in my wildest dreams it was going to be a complete remake from the ground up, and hopefully a revitalization of a classic series that capcom has been driving into the ground. That's the kind of thing I would happily pay $60 for to play on my PS4. Now it seems like just a basic cash grab.
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