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Is bowling ingrained into American culture so much that it's surprising to not know that? We have bowling in the UK, but if you were to do a poll, I bet less than half the population would know what a spare is.

I think it's unsporting to go after people for their blind spots, especially when they're opening up themselves for the sake of entertainment.

Actually, yeah, it is an extremely common social activity. There are bowling alleys everywhere. Even some of the smallest of towns in the middle of nowhere have a bowling alley. Gamespot was even forcing them to go wig bowling as a team building exercise or something.

Not that it's bad for anyone to not know something like that, but I would say it's fairly surprising if somebody doesn't.
 
I learned what a spare was from the first Wii Sports.

I also took a bowling class in college. It was mostly about keeping score...I don't remember any of it.
 
Is bowling ingrained into American culture so much that it's surprising to not know that? We have bowling in the UK, but if you were to do a poll, I bet less than half the population would know what a spare is.

I think it's unsporting to go after people for their blind spots, especially when they're opening up themselves for the sake of entertainment.

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Actually, yeah, it is an extremely common social activity. There are bowling alleys everywhere. Even some of the smallest of towns in the middle of nowhere have a bowling alley. Gamespot was even forcing them to go wig bowling as a team building exercise or something.

Not that it's bad for anyone to not know something like that, but I would say it's fairly surprising if somebody doesn't.
I would have thought bowling is (like in the UK where a lot of alleys have closed) more of an outdated pastime mostly resigned to movies set a couple decades ago. It's weird, for work I have to visit NY a lot, but the more time I spend there the more I realise it seems completely unrepresentative of the average American life and I shouldn't make assumptions based on it.

That said, wig bowling sounds like one of those corporate mandated activities that would make me want to kill everyone. Why the wigs? Ugh.

Gonna go on record as saying The Big Lebowski is the worst Coen brothers film.
 
I would have thought bowling is (like in the UK where a lot of alleys have closed) more of an outdated pastime mostly resigned to movies set a couple decades ago. It's weird, for work I have to visit NY a lot, but the more time I spend there the more I realise it seems completely unrepresentative of the average American life and I shouldn't make assumptions based on it.

That said, wig bowling sounds like one of those corporate mandated activities that would make me want to kill everyone. Why the wigs? Ugh.

You mean New York City, right? 'Because bowling alleys are goddamn everywhere up-state.
 
I would have thought bowling is (like in the UK where a lot of alleys have closed) more of an outdated pastime mostly resigned to movies set a couple decades ago. It's weird, for work I have to visit NY a lot, but the more time I spend there the more I realise it seems completely unrepresentative of the average American life and I shouldn't make assumptions based on it.

That said, wig bowling sounds like one of those corporate mandated activities that would make me want to kill everyone. Why the wigs? Ugh.

America is a big nation. And different areas even have their own variants on bowling.

Maryland has a ton of Duckpin bowling lanes for example.

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I'm watching the Wii Sports Club QL right now, and I know we like to give Dan a lot of shit for being a grown man who seeming has never experienced common things, but Brad did not know what a "spare" was in bowling.
Then again, Brad never forgot to take off his bowling shoes and flew across the country in them.
 
I would have thought bowling is (like in the UK where a lot of alleys have closed) more of an outdated pastime mostly resigned to movies set a couple decades ago.

Agreed from a UK perspective.

Bowling was a fun pastime big in the 90s, but now who goes bowling?
 
Oh, right...
Yeah. It'd make sense to put Danny on the podcast, but I almost wonder if they're not going to just kill the whole thing entirely and have Kevin mostly pump out written content.

Agreed from a UK perspective.

Bowling was a fun pastime big in the 90s, but now who goes bowling?
Do you guys still have world dart championships? I remember that being on TV and thought it was basically the British equivalent of world bowling championships.
 
Agreed from a UK perspective.

Bowling was a fun pastime big in the 90s, but now who goes bowling?

That's my experience from Norway too. We went bowling all the time when I was growing up in the 90s, now the only bowling venue left in my city is a place where people my age and older go to drink. It's a bar with a bowling alley. It's pretty great and dangerous.

Yeah. It'd make sense to put Danny on the podcast, but I almost wonder if they're not going to just kill the whole thing entirely and have Kevin mostly pump out written content.

Yeah, it would make sense since Kevin is now one of just two staff editors who's on the written part of the site. Still, I'd start listening to a Danny podcast in a second. Not sure if the market is big enough for it to make sense for them though, Jeff has talked about how much he has had to justify still having a podcast to suits who just look at how much time it takes to record and how little direct ad revenue it generates.
 
Just started the GS show, where they deftly ignore the massive layoffs and give you corporate speak because that's all they can do... but is the plan to basically fill the gaps with GB people now?
 
Just started the GS show, where they deftly ignore the massive layoffs and give you corporate speak because that's all they can do... but is the plan to basically fill the gaps with GB people now?

I'm sure they'll fill some of those positions with a some fresh faces.

GS helped out GB on liveshows when the SF office was understaffed.
 
Just started the GS show, where they deftly ignore the massive layoffs and give you corporate speak because that's all they can do... but is the plan to basically fill the gaps with GB people now?

Probably just for a bit, especially while Danny is out. Hey, it's only fair - GB gets GS people occasionally.
 
So we're all in agreement that Kingpin is the best bowling film ever made? Good.

You mean New York City, right? 'Because bowling alleys are goddamn everywhere up-state.
Yeah, west village/soho to be exact. Rarely have time to stray far which sucks.

The Ladykillers.

But Big Lebowski is probably pretty far down my personal list of their films.
Oh god, you're right. I stand corrected, they're joint last.
 
I'm sure they'll fill some of those positions with a some fresh faces.

GS helped out GB on liveshows when the SF office was understaffed.

I kinda doubt that? It's not like they are going to hire a bunch of new people after laying off so many.

I guess it's possible that they were hacking out high salaried people to replace with cheap new labor, but if it happens quickly...well, isn't that illegal?

I suppose it's also possible to fill gaps with freelancers, but I feel like they'd want to be paid for the appearances. Also, how many of the freelancers live in the SF region?
 
I kinda doubt that? It's not like they are going to hire a bunch of new people after laying off so many.

I guess it's possible that they were hacking out high salaried people to replace with cheap new labor, but if it happens quickly...well, isn't that illegal?

I suppose it's also possible to fill gaps with freelancers, but I feel like they'd want to be paid for the appearances. Also, how many of the freelancers live in the SF region?

I'm sure they'll fill the written part of the site with freelancers, and those don't have to live near SF either. I doubt they'll fill on screen positions with freelancers because that would obviously not work.
 
I loved O Brother, Where Art Thou? as a kid. I dunno if it holds up now.

I'd rate Big Lebowski above Ladykillers and Burn After Reading, probably above that obscure comedic one I can't remember the name of. Y'know, with the jumper.
 
I loved O Brother, Where Art Thou? as a kid. I dunno if it holds up now.

It's still a fantastic movie imo. One of the Coen brothers' best.

I also still hear songs from the soundtrack on the radio from time to time. They have to have made a fortune on that stuff.

Yeah, thinking about it I'd say Big Lebowski is middle-tier Coen Brothers at best.

I think most people rate it as that. Big Lebowski is one of my all time favourite comedies, so it's up there with the best movies they've made for me. God damn those guys have a great filmography.
 
I loved O Brother, Where Art Thou? as a kid. I dunno if it holds up now.

I'd rate Big Lebowski above Ladykillers and Burn After Reading, probably above that obscure comedic one I can't remember the name of. Y'know, with the jumper.

O Brother is still great, I just rewatched it a few months ago. One of my favorites of their zanier titles.
 
I loved O Brother, Where Art Thou? as a kid. I dunno if it holds up now.

I'd rate Big Lebowski above Ladykillers and Burn After Reading, probably above that obscure comedic one I can't remember the name of. Y'know, with the jumper.

Hey! I love the Hudsucker Proxy; one of their best. Not as good as Big Lebowski, but definitely top 5.
 
I should be on the road right now, but I refuse to embark on this 5+ hour drive without the podcast. Please, Giant Bomb, don't let me down.

It's probably hours away, isn't it?
 
I'm sure they'll fill the written part of the site with freelancers, and those don't have to live near SF either. I doubt they'll fill on screen positions with freelancers because that would obviously not work.

The bulk of the written material is/was already written by freelancers (Gamespot is still one of the few sites that reviews basically every game that gets a commercial release), it'll just continue that way going forward.

The onscreen stuff was what the regulars were for and that's where they are going to be lacking people.

Bringing on freelancers for video content is not unheard of or an insane idea. In the halcyon days of 1Up, they would regularly have freelancers on the 1Up show. Sterling McGarvery, Justin Haywald, and GB's very own Patrick Klepek (among others) started out as 1Up/EGM freelancers who were featured on the 1Up Show.
 
I've always loved Miller's Crossing. Fantastic Coen movie.

What's always struck me the most about that movie is how fucking fantastic it looks. It's almost flawlessly directed.

The bulk of the written material is/was already written by freelancers (Gamespot is still one of the few sites that reviews basically every game that gets a commercial release), it'll just continue that way going forward.

The onscreen stuff was what the regulars were for and that's where they are going to be lacking people.

Bringing on freelancers for video content is not unheard of or an insane idea. In the halcyon days of 1Up, they would regularly have freelancers on the 1Up show. Sterling McGarvery, Justin Haywald, and GB's very own Patrick Klepek (among others) started out as 1Up/EGM freelancers who were featured on the 1Up Show.

Well, wasn't the people we know of who got fired mainly writers? It looked that way to me.
 
Well, wasn't the people we know of who got fired mainly writers? It looked that way to me.

Yes, absolutely. That's the "realignment strategy" that the suits talked about. They were folk who were less suitable for video (by suit standards) and were likely the highest paid content staff. Use freelancers for written content and you don't have to pay for benefits (50% on top of salary or more), office space, AND because they often don't live in SF, they are more willing to work for lower wages. Additionally, it's non-tenured people, so the wage demands are doubly low.

None of the people that were laid off had the cult of personality of the GB guys, and in the case of McShea and Petit, had active detractors. That + high cost + non-standard "look"= layoff when only beans are being counted.

Such is the death of written games stuff.
 
What's always struck me the most about that movie is how fucking fantastic it looks. It's almost flawlessly directed.

It really does look great. Barry Sonnenfeld did a tremendous job on the cinematography. I generally prefer the Coens' more regular collaborator, Roger Deakins, but it's impossible to be disappointed with the way Miller's Crossing was shot.
 
Well, wasn't the people we know of who got fired mainly writers? It looked that way to me.
Writers, editorial directors and event producers by the looks of it.

Little bit concerning that a bigger deal wasn't made of firing the EiC (has a new one even been announced?). I hope there is still good editorial/sales separation there and our Danny isn't going to be roped into Call of Duty advertorial. I've noticed that once sites start downplaying who's in charge (like they did after Greg Kasavin left) and avoid bylines in favour of 'Staff', ethics get messy...

It really does look great. Barry Sonnenfeld did a tremendous job on the cinematography. I generally prefer the Coens' more regular collaborator, Roger Deakins, but it's impossible to be disappointed with the way Miller's Crossing was shot.
Gorgeous and creative film
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