Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong

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That's the vibe I was getting from this exchange, anyway.

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I guess I need more then this smash board leak is giving me to be convinced it has any kind of credibility. There are so many billions of brawl mod alt colors the odds of people guessing ones that would be officiall or very close just seems likely. Either DHD or B jr in KCC show up and I'll eat my buffet of crow but I need more then when they're offering me.

Had they done the stars and stripes mario alt colors, or the skyward sword tunic for leak I'd be more impressed. I've seen so many fake leaks with duck hunt dog for both brawl and smash 4 I'm just not convinced.
 
^ I honestly wonder if Nintendo sees Miiverse as a success. This is probably worth its own topic, but I wonder what metrics they use. They seem to be interested in continuing with the Mii ecosystem, but are people continuing to use it? Is it driving engagement and sales? I'm quite curious how the venture is being viewed internally.
 
^ I honestly wonder if Nintendo sees Miiverse as a success. This is probably worth its own topic, but I wonder what metrics they use. They seem to be interested in continuing with the Mii ecosystem, but are people continuing to use it? Is it driving engagement and sales? I'm quite curious how the venture is being viewed internally.

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Quite a few of you have already partaken in the questionnaire I put up a few days ago; only three days in and I've already received over 130 responses! I really wasn't expecting such a wave of responses, and as a result I'm going to implement a few changes to the voting process.

With everyone only voting for one veteran character, there's been a lot of "clumping" of characters with the same amount of votes (meaning, there's multiple characters with 7 votes, multiple with 4, etc.); this would lead to a pretty boring countdown to have constant 4-way ties being announced. It also seems a little lame for people to only show their support for a single character, as most people have at least a few favorites they like to jump between. Therefore, I'm going to let everyone choose their top 3 favorite characters to vote for.

How this will work is in the new questionnaire I have linked below, it now asks who your first, second, and third favored characters are. Depending on which rank you give the characters you choose, they'll get a different amount of votes. For 1st, the character will get 3 votes. 2nd will get 2 votes, and obviously 3rd will get 1. If you don't have 3 characters you want to vote for, feel free to leave some of the questions blank. Hopefully this will help make a more accurate and interesting final results list. Most wanted newcomer is still limited to 1 choice.

Now, if you've already participated in the previous questionnaire and you don't participate in this one, your vote will still be counted. If you really only care about one character, don't worry about doing anything as I'll keep tallies from the previous poll. If you have already voted and want to add 2nd and 3rd characters to your choices, come vote in this one; there's a choice in the first question labeled "I've already told you!" that will let me know you've already voted. I will still double check all responses to make sure no one is double voting. In addition to that, please PM when you've voted. Going forward, I'm going to require you to PM me to let me know you really did vote and someone isn't just putting your username in the questionnaire. A little silly to think someone would do that one a for-fun poll like this, but this is the internet...

So, all that to say, I think this will end up creating a more exciting countdown as we approach the Japanese 3DS release date. The last day to vote will be August 16. Starting the next night, I'll start revealing the winners (20th-1st) every POTD. This will mean 1st place is revealed on the last POTD before the Japanese launch. Hopefully, this will add to the hype leading to launch (as if we need any more) and help determine who is the most popular character in the SmashGAF community.

Looking forward to seeing all of your choices! Everything so far has already been very interesting and surprising. Also, as a little tease, I may even set up a little betting pool to see who can predict the top 5 choices. Can't promise that for sure yet, but I may be able to do something simple like a free commissioned art piece as a prize (gotta keep the prizes free!).

QUOTE THIS POST TO GET A LINK TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE.


Voted and I'll send you a PM for confirmation as well if you'd like
 
RIP in peace Pedro-chan-san's hype

To have come so far, only to drop off in the home stretch...brings a tear to one's eye.

As someone who's said that very thing...it is a bit hard to argue when I look at series like F-Zero and Star Fox.

To be fair, neither series was ever as big as Mega Man. You could say Nintendo dropped the ball on Star Fox by not capitalizing on the success of 64, but it's not like they just left a top-tier series for dead.
 
Just a note on tiers (saw a mention of Mega Man's potential tier placement), it's impotent to remember that "tiers" are not instructive, they are descriptive. They do not attempt to indicate the quality or winning potential of a character, but rather just document which characters have or have not been winning the most in documented matches. Anyone can usually get great with any character and buck the trend a tier list might seem to be indicating. Some characters just might take more work or more creative play styles than others.
 
Been very, very busy today. Have you guys figured out the entire roster yet?

Neiteio... you weren't here... we wanted to tell you...

We did the math and... we figured out that Sakurai is going to cut all boots from the game. Everyone is going to wear dorky galoshes instead.
 
Neiteio... you weren't here... we wanted to tell you...

We did the math and... we figured out Sakurai is going to cut all boots from the game. Everyone is going to wear dorky galoshes instead.
wait, what

did you carry the 10

remember lucina's boots have a positive value of 5
 
An update on:

uqlver.png


Quite a few of you have already partaken in the questionnaire I put up a few days ago; only three days in and I've already received over 130 responses! I really wasn't expecting such a wave of responses, and as a result I'm going to implement a few changes to the voting process.

With everyone only voting for one veteran character, there's been a lot of "clumping" of characters with the same amount of votes (meaning, there's multiple characters with 7 votes, multiple with 4, etc.); this would lead to a pretty boring countdown to have constant 4-way ties being announced. It also seems a little lame for people to only show their support for a single character, as most people have at least a few favorites they like to jump between. Therefore, I'm going to let everyone choose their top 3 favorite characters to vote for.

How this will work is in the new questionnaire I have linked below, it now asks who your first, second, and third favored characters are. Depending on which rank you give the characters you choose, they'll get a different amount of votes. For 1st, the character will get 3 votes. 2nd will get 2 votes, and obviously 3rd will get 1. If you don't have 3 characters you want to vote for, feel free to leave some of the questions blank. Hopefully this will help make a more accurate and interesting final results list. Most wanted newcomer is still limited to 1 choice.

Now, if you've already participated in the previous questionnaire and you don't participate in this one, your vote will still be counted. If you really only care about one character, don't worry about doing anything as I'll keep tallies from the previous poll. If you have already voted and want to add 2nd and 3rd characters to your choices, come vote in this one; there's a choice in the first question labeled "I've already told you!" that will let me know you've already voted. I will still double check all responses to make sure no one is double voting. In addition to that, please PM when you've voted. Going forward, I'm going to require you to PM me to let me know you really did vote and someone isn't just putting your username in the questionnaire. A little silly to think someone would do that one a for-fun poll like this, but this is the internet...

So, all that to say, I think this will end up creating a more exciting countdown as we approach the Japanese 3DS release date. The last day to vote will be August 16. Starting the next night, I'll start revealing the winners (20th-1st) every POTD. This will mean 1st place is revealed on the last POTD before the Japanese launch. Hopefully, this will add to the hype leading to launch (as if we need any more) and help determine who is the most popular character in the SmashGAF community.

Looking forward to seeing all of your choices! Everything so far has already been very interesting and surprising. Also, as a little tease, I may even set up a little betting pool to see who can predict the top 5 choices. Can't promise that for sure yet, but I may be able to do something simple like a free commissioned art piece as a prize (gotta keep the prizes free!).

QUOTE THIS POST TO GET A LINK TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE.


Voted.
 
Hey does anyone have that comic with female Robin summoning Chrom with the final smash, and he shows up holding baby Lucina and Morgan? It was posted in here but the thread moves too fast and I can't find it.
 
Just a note on tiers (saw a mention of Mega Man's potential tier placement), it's impotent to remember that "tiers" are not instructive, they are descriptive. They do not attempt to indicate the quality or winning potential of a character, but rather just document which characters have or have not been winning the most in documented matches. Anyone can usually get great with any character and buck the trend a tier list might seem to be indicating. Some characters just might take more work or more creative play styles than others.

Actually, that's not entirely true. Tier lists are not just accumulated tournament results, though of course they do contribute towards that. Tier lists usually also take character potential into account, such as frame data, options for certain situations (e.g. recovery), etc.

That said, bad characters can perform well in the hands of a good player, and playing a good character does not necessarily mean that the player will perform well with that character.

Additionally, I wouldn't give any attention to "tier lists" that are made by single people that tried an unfinished demo for an hour or two, or even groups of people. Chances are, they don't know what they're talking about. Even top level players from previous installments of the series will not be able to realize the game's mechanical depths.
 
I still think we should make a fake leak, the best fake leak ever

What if we just asked Sakurai for the full roster, but then just made it look like were faking it! Like, we photoshop parts of the screenshot and then take a bad, blurry picture of it with an off screen camera at a really really stupid angle!

It would be brilliant! Imagine the look on the internet's face!
 
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