Just like Nick themselves amirite?
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Legend of Korra Book 3: Change |OT| SCHEDULEBENDING
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Just like Nick themselves amirite?
Doesn't mean shit if you watch with AdBlock. I forgot to whitelist Nick and I'm watching it again to get them ad views. Man this show got dark. Earth Queen is super duper dead, or at least she better be.
GIF Leak Question.
Was the leaked GIF this episodes Zaheer moment?
Yeah, it was Zaheer choking the Queen. It was also lava bending guy bringing down the wall. There were like 3 gifs leaked on Nick.com before the episode leaked.
No one knows. Could be a fake out. Zaheer seems to be hiding something. That said, when Jet died they didn't refer to it as death and his last breath was off screen. So them saying "taken down" or not showing her dead body, doesn't mean she isn't dead either. It's actually in line with how the show has dealt with death in the past (because it's a kids show).
Still, I think the scene itself was quite violent (the camera panning in on her eyes bulging). I was shocked they even went that far.
coolfighter1993
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I was thinking, what if the next season is about the rise of communism in the Earth Kingdom?
People are tired of being dictated by Royalty and believe that being a democracy means just becoming a slave of Republic City?
It would be like an Avatar version of Russia.
People are tired of being dictated by Royalty and believe that being a democracy means just becoming a slave of Republic City?
It would be like an Avatar version of Russia.
I think the earth kingdom already is the avatar version of Russia, so that's actually shockingly plausible.
The Earth King in ATLA is basically Nicholas II. The Dai Li guy was Rasputin.
I think that's where the show is heading towards in Book 4, although not all monarchies are doomed in the new modern era, just like there are still many monarchies today and, obviously, full of governments. Zaheer's vision of a lawless world will never be a reality, not even the Air Nomads were completely anarchistic (they had governing councils) and mostly manage to keep peace between their temples simply because of how small their nation was. But the United Republic is what the rest of the Nations will look like after this. I can image the Fire Nation peacefully turning into a Constitutional Monarchy, but never ousting the Fire Lord completely. Japan still has its Emperor and government.
The Earth Kingdom is huge, and it's future will probably be an Earth Confederacy or simply divide into smaller kingdoms once more, which I believe is what the Earth Kingdom was once, before the King of Ba Sing Se was sworn fealty to by the rest of the continent's rulers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_king_is_dead,_long_live_the_king!
The title of the episode is "Long Live the Queen."
So yes.
Again, they are doing literally everything they can to show him killing her without losing the Y7 rating on the show. She is gone.
I would imagine so. I keep thinking of the commentaries on the Batman TAS DVD sets and how much trouble they had with the network censors before the ratings systems were even implemented.
m_shortpants
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Monk Gyatso must have suffocated everyone in the room he was in right? Those firebenders didn't have any broken armor or anything, so isn't that the implication?
The Silver
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Korra's team clearly can't handle the Red Lotus, but how would the Gaang fare?
Katara vs Ming-Hua
Toph vs Ghazan
Zuko vs P'Li
Suki, Sokka, Appa and Momo vs Zaheer
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Katara vs Ming-Hua
Toph vs Ghazan
Zuko vs P'Li
Suki, Sokka, Appa and Momo vs Zaheer
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Zuko would lose.
vas_a_morir
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In Season 2 of the TLA, I remember they could still say 'kill.' By season 3, it was 'end you' and so forth.
In Season 2 of the TLA, I remember they could still say 'kill.' By season 3, it was 'end you' and so forth.
You are remembering it wrong. Like I said earlier, kill was never used to threaten somebody. "End you" is the only thing they could directly say to another person as a threat. They still said kill and die in Season 3.
Plot aside everyone could lose to Team Entropy. Aang is the only one who is clearly a better bender than his counterpart, and you didn't include him.
No Aang? That makes it a lot more difficult for them I'd imagine. Katara and Toph are clearly superior here, but as mentioned Zuko wouldn't be able to take on P'Li - heck the Gaang as a whole struggled with the original combustion bender, though often times that was thanks to his range advantages. And the hefty defensive and evasive advantages of air bending would make it near impossible for the non-benders to take out Zaheer. Basically would depend which pair resolves fastest and can then get an advantage somewhere.
With Aang though it wouldn't even be a contest.
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I think Ghazan would probably take out Toph because she'd never encountered lava-bending, and lava-bending seems like a natural counter to earth- and metal-benders as it turns all their best shots into more ammunition. Katara would probably beat Ming-Hua, if only because Katara is an immensely powerful bender as revealed by the fact she can blood-bend, and could probably just strip Ming-Hua of her "arms" and be done with it. Zuko would own P'Li one on one - P'Li is really heavy artillery and doesn't seem-suited to one vs. one combat. The charge-up time on the combustion beam is too long, and is too easily disrupted. I think the only reason the Gaang struggled the first time was because they didn't know Combustion Man's weakness, but now it's common knowledge, and Zuko knows how to exploit it. Zaheer would destroy that combination, it'd be basically unfair, but on the other hand, Aang would rip him a new one.
I think Toph would lose to Ghazan simply because there's not much she can do against lava bending. She's smart and an excellent bender but she probably wouldn't be able to figure out how it works in the middle of a fight to counter it.
Zuko wouldn't really fare well against P'Li as people mentioned by people above. Although, by the end of the series he is a really good fighter, as shown by the Agni Kai.
I think Katara would have a definite shot if you consider her at the end of the series.
Zuko would definitely have lost. He barely could go head to head with Combust man and he was slower. Li, would work him a little too easy.
Katara v Ming is the most interesting because of how versatile both girls are. Especially Ming being someone with no arms and using water as an extension of herself. I liked the drill move she did to break out Zaheer's girl underground. Part of me feels it would be a stalemate or Ming barely winning
Toph v Ghazan depends on he landscape. With the inclusion of metal, Toph would win because from there it would a endurance match seeing how long he would hold out from the L. If it was all ground then it would be how well can Toph adapt to the changing landscape.
Zaheer v Aang (air only)....Even if Zaheer knew all the moves he doesn't seem as "agile" or smooth with it as Aang for obvious reasons. However since Zaheer KNOWS how to use killing moves that could be the deciding factor, since aang doesn't know it and could be taken back by it if he doesn't react fast enough
Katara v Ming is the most interesting because of how versatile both girls are. Especially Ming being someone with no arms and using water as an extension of herself. I liked the drill move she did to break out Zaheer's girl underground. Part of me feels it would be a stalemate or Ming barely winning
Toph v Ghazan depends on he landscape. With the inclusion of metal, Toph would win because from there it would a endurance match seeing how long he would hold out from the L. If it was all ground then it would be how well can Toph adapt to the changing landscape.
Zaheer v Aang (air only)....Even if Zaheer knew all the moves he doesn't seem as "agile" or smooth with it as Aang for obvious reasons. However since Zaheer KNOWS how to use killing moves that could be the deciding factor, since aang doesn't know it and could be taken back by it if he doesn't react fast enough
I think Zuko and Katara would win, and Toph would have to get very creative but I think since she can sense the moves someone will make before they can make them she would eventually take him out. Toph is a 1v1 beast even without metal bending
What about the original white lotus?
Pakku vs Ming-Hua
Bumi vs Ghazan
jong jong vs P'li
iroh vs zaheer?
I think thats the difference to me about this season is that the great bending masters are gone. Lin, old zuko, korras dad, and tenzin just can't get the job done compared to those legends.
The Silver
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I didn't include Aang because he'd obviously beat them in the AS state and because Korra(she'd also beat them in the AS state) has yet to fight them and I was only comparing their respective crews.
Infinite Justice
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In this dream match up i think Toph could have a hard time with Gazan since he can expose her true weakness which is the earth itself and her feet attached to it.
not only he can change the earth into something else (toph didn't like sand due to how different it felt from pure earth) but also in a state that's really bad for her (hot rocks that could burn her feet).
not only he can change the earth into something else (toph didn't like sand due to how different it felt from pure earth) but also in a state that's really bad for her (hot rocks that could burn her feet).
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Agreed. Season 2 Korra was a lot prettier. Hair down, and dark blue arm bands and jacket.
The Silver
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I think Ghazan is one of the worst match ups for Toph, he'd completely take her by surprise by lava bending the ground under her and burning her feet.
grandjedi6
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Toph would get wretched. Like Bolin, she would hit the issue of basically fueling Ghazan's attacks. It would probably take a water or air bender to take him out.
Toph was the greatest Earth bender ever basically. I'd imagine that as soon as she was able to figure what Ghazan were doing, she would simply be able to copy his lava bending in moments, thus negating his only advantage.
I'm assuming here, of course, that lava bending is simply pressuring the earth enough to produce heat and doesn't rely on some secret bullshit.
I'm assuming here, of course, that lava bending is simply pressuring the earth enough to produce heat and doesn't rely on some secret bullshit.
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Ming-Hua would destroy Pakku, probably wouldn't even be close. Katara halfway through her training was hanging with Pakku, dude is weak for a master waterbender. Ghazan would similarly destroy Bumi, although not because Bumi is bad but because lavabending is super OP and means Ghazan is a terrible, terrible match-up for any other earthbenders. I'd tip Jeong Jeong to win against P'Li, for the same reasons I'd take Zuko to beat him. Iroh would beat Zaheer easily, given he's one of the greatest Firebenders in history.
Also, why do people think Zuko would struggle against P'Li? Yes, Combustion Man handed it to Zuko in their brief fight, but a) Zuko started off not actually fighting him but trying to persuade him, b) took the stupid option of shielding on the cliff-top instead of dodging and thus got pushed out of the fight, rather than straight-up defeated, and c) didn't know about the massive Ocarina of Time-style weak point on the forehead. An older, more experienced Zuko armed with this knowledge would easily take P'Li - there's too much charge time on firing each beam.
Also, why do people think Zuko would struggle against P'Li? Yes, Combustion Man handed it to Zuko in their brief fight, but a) Zuko started off not actually fighting him but trying to persuade him, b) took the stupid option of shielding on the cliff-top instead of dodging and thus got pushed out of the fight, rather than straight-up defeated, and c) didn't know about the massive Ocarina of Time-style weak point on the forehead. An older, more experienced Zuko armed with this knowledge would easily take P'Li - there's too much charge time on firing each beam.
Considering Toph created metalbending and managed to do this:
I don't think she'll have too much trouble picking up lavabending. She'd probably learn it, master it, and surpass Gazan in the middle of the fight.
As for her feet, again I think she'll have figured out a way to deal with this. That, or her feet would be callused as fuck by now anyway.
I can only imagine this "fight" would be a philosophy debate during a game of pi sho and some tea.
She would probably know what he was doing before he did it cause she would feel the pressure changing in the earth. Unlike Bolin who has to look to see if the lava is there toph sees with the earth. And it isn't like he does his lava tricks very quickly. It seems like there is a moment where it takes him some time to bring it up
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If I were Ghazan, my first move would be to scorch Toph's feet.
I was literally thinking the exact same thing. They both just go to the spirit world and have a mental battle.
She got fucked up by Zuko accidentally burning her feet. She absolutely depends on staying grounded.
Yea but Zukos fire doesn't come from underground. By the time the lava reached her feet she would feel it coming and move. She can't necessarily see zukos fire the same way
Praise the Lorde
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I remember seeing worse stuff on Toonami back in the day with a TV Y7 rating.
the thing is her greatest strength and weakness is the fact she uses he feet for everything including the obvious big one being sight we don't know if Gha has air to ground moves but if he had some that would be it
This is also true.
Toph has a complete advantage over every single earthbender because she can see all of their attacks before they're actually completed and react accordingly. This is exactly what she did when she was dominating all of the wrestler dudes.
The moment Gazan touched the ground to earthbend she'd already have her counterattack ready.
There really aren't too many ways he can earthbend that wouldn't involve a piece of earth somehow connected to the ground.
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I disagree. Say Ghazan stomps a rock up, and punches it - fairly standard move. Here's Toph thinking she has a projectile rock coming at her. The rock is no longer connected with the ground, so she can't see what's happening to it. She knows Ghazan has shifted his stance, but what he's doing is simply punching what is now a lava wave towards her. She can't know that, goes to her usual counter-response to projectile rock, game over.
Exactly, he is very stationary while he does it. She has a different understanding of the earth than earthbenders who rely on their eyes. She would feel what he is doing instead of waiting to see it
How does the lava get to the rock without leaving the earth though? She would see him taking lava out of the ground. Its a little ridiculous if he can just pull lava out of his ass
As others have pointed out, lava bending is not a quick move, Ghazan has to build up to it. He can't just bust out lava waves whenver he feels like it. He just wouldn't get the time to lava bend when he's constantly deflecting the projectiles of Toph.
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Deleted member 231381
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Uh, no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEWzYW0XISk
Projectile lava-bending.
What takes Ghazan a while to do is AoE lava damage. Projectiles don't seem to fuss him.
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