Xbox One- what would it take to get YOU to buy one ?
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$100? Are you kidding me?
HORRORSHØW
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more games and a cheaper price. the only ones i'm interested in so far are sunset overdrive, ori, and killer instinct, and that's not enough to sway me. hopefully when scalebound and phantom dust releases in late 2015 or 2016, it'll have significant price drops and a nice list of exclusives. speaking of the latter, does anyone know what's on the slate for 2015 in terms of exclusives?
The biggest thing holding me back is the paid online. I already pay for PSN and I don't really like doing it. PS4 is my multiplayer machine this time, so I'll keep reluctantly paying for PSN. But I can't get myself to pay for two subscriptions. I hate subscriptions. Better charge me upfront.
Once a decent number of single-player exclusives are out, I may buy a Xbox One to play them. Master chief collection almost convinced me. But with the rumors of a PC port, I might wait another year and see how things pan out.
Once a decent number of single-player exclusives are out, I may buy a Xbox One to play them. Master chief collection almost convinced me. But with the rumors of a PC port, I might wait another year and see how things pan out.
A much lower price than the PS4 and a current gen version of Deathrow with online play and interactive arenas. I already have a PS4 that I barely play outside of BF4 and two gaming PCs with backlogs I have no chance of ever completing so missing out on some Xbox exclusives won't really bother me much. Especially since a lot of the exclusives can be found on PC or do not appeal to me at all like Forza, Halo, or Gears of War. I'd probably be better served taking the money I would spend on an Xbone and putting it towards upgrading my GTX 680 to either a GTX 800 card or waiting a little longer and getting a 900 series card instead.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Can XB1 play video files? If so you can add that to the list. I was really shocked when I tried to watch a movie via USB on my PS4 and it didn't work. It's such a basic feature.
Apparently you didn't read them very closely, because I didn't say never.
Most of this is software-related and can/will be added; for instance PS4 got 3D Blu Ray playback with firmware 1.75. Your beloved Xbone doesn't have it yet, by the way.
Most of this also doesn't have any bearing on playing games.
"close the gap of minute graphical superiority between it and the PS4"
Thanks for the laugh.
Fess
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I've already bought a PS4 but I would've bought an Xbox One too if it would've launched in my country. The real mega failure for MS from my point of view is that they still haven't launched the console :/ They're now trying to launch it this september but I've just bought a PC and I rarely use the PS4 and probably won't use the XB1 much either now. They simply missed the bus as far as I'm concerned.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Already have one. More exclusive gsmes I am interested in playing. Will purchase a ps4 eventually.
giancarlo123x
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Halo MCC bundle.
Any advantage or game the X1 has your response has been useless, Meh or no value. Hard argue with that.
M_A_C
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lol, so much wrong here.
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
500$ gaming PCs or 400$ tablets can do all of those things and consoles are competing against them, so yes, today's consoles are expected to have those features as they are in the same price range and are competing directly against them. It's not because it's a gaming forum that we can't talk about extra features that gaming consoles have! They are important in this day and age and should be expected of every console moving on.
Ascenion
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$299 price drop with Kinect bundle. Way too many fuck ups before the console even launched. It's basically tainted. Now I will admit panic mode MS is the best MS but right now my PS4 and Wii U are more than adequate I would love to have an Xbox One before Halo 5 but not at the current price. If they announced a new Conker though.....I'm throwing money at the best buy cashier and just taking one.
AstroNut325
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Honestly... I just want a Xbox One without the beefy specs but with Kinect 2 bundled in the box. I don't care for the games. I just want all the multimedia capabilities. I'd probably pay $199 for this.
baphomet
Member
Its so wrong its hilarious. And then that little blurb at the end just drives home how little they actually know.
BrokenSymmetry
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Halo MCC, so I have already have preordered one for 5 september, when the Xbox One is finally released in my country.
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
Nothing wrong here, except for more raw power, MS has them beaten in pretty much every category, unless you can prove him wrong?
Dragonborn
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I can't and probably won't ever be able to play Sony games on PC though. You can have the best PC ever and it still won't be playing Bloodborne and UC4 next year.
But yea, I get what you mean, most of it will end up on PS4 so it's irrelevant but like I said, I can't really comment since I personally have little interest in all those feature. HDMI in, for example, is entirely useless to me
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
And you think you will be able to play every MS exclusives on PC?
Unless you hate everything that MS has as far as exclusivity goes.
You realize how little most of those relate to games, or that even if more slowly PS4 will mostly feature match it (with the exception of the HDMI in of course)?
Take myself, here's how I see that list:
- Direct YouTube upload - useless, would never use (could be added to PS4 too)
- 3D Blue-Ray Playback -PS4 has this (in fact I think they snuck out an update to beat MS to it)
- More robust DNLA features than the PS4 - useless, would never use (could be added to PS4 too)
- Suspend/Resume - would likely never use. Not how I play games. I have a Vita and don't bother with suspend/resume (could be added to PS4 too)
- External HDD support - useless, would never use. I want easy to swap out HDD not ability to hook more peripherals. (could be added to PS4 too)
- Currently more app support (and the likelihood that it will have more support than the PS4 when it comes to apps due to the crossplatform nature of windows 8 and all MS devices) - I use consoles purely for games, the apps are useless for me and I suspect the majority interested in apps are already Apple/Android centric not Windows 8 or Windows Mobile
- HDMI-IN - useless, would never use (admittedly this isn't coming to PS4 unless via an external peripheral)
- Kinect's feature set - I do not like Kinect at all for gaming or the way MS is trying to use it for interface. Everything interesting about Kinect for me resides with different uses and let's face it in Europe going by 360/Kinect interest was pretty low for Kinect in the first place and nothing games wise has been released to change that view.
Now of course that's just me but really you can't just assume this stuff matters - to a lot of people it doesn't one bit or at least it matters a lot less than the pure gaming features.
The early sales speak for themselves, broadly speaking the market for a videogame console is a lot more interesting in a console that seems 100% focused on games with some media on the side than a console that appears to be 70% games/30% media.
To be blunt a lot of those features (or rather how much they were pushed in initial marketing) have actually been part of the problem for MS.
Whoa, didn't quite expect this level of commenting. This might well be the biggest thread I've ever started here (and I've been here a long ass time).
So without individually cataloging all these replies 100% , It seemed on rough guess that about half the people commenting essentially have no intention of buying an xbox one for a variety of reasons. This being a 9 pages thread with only a few conversations that means there are around 400 posters who voiced an opinion. 200 of them are already lost to MS.
Of the other 200 or so , it seems about 20 actually bought an xbox one already but I also got the impression that 1 or 2 of those 2 don't plan to keep it.
So , knock it down to 180 then. Most of you guys all seem to want the same thing- more exclusive games (that is , stuff that is actually ONLY on xbox one, not even PC) , a cheaper price and a smaller system. Sadly for me, only 1 other person mentioned backwards compatible peripherals in regards to a forza steering wheel.
So it begs a further question from me (and sadly I don't work at MS so whatever I propose won't mean shit) , would you then be willing to buy an Xbox One that was 50% smaller , came with a 1TB hard drive , no bluray drive , no kinect , no HDMI in. It was basically just a digital only set top box that came with a digital copy of Halo Master Chief collection and , this whole package was just 299.99 USD ?
I feel such a package could be possible next year , in fact they could even launch it at 249.99 if they kept it at a 500GB hard drive I think.
Keeping up with the retail dependent market, they could keep the current model available with the blu-ray drive but sell it for 349.99 and slap a 1 TB hard drive in there along with 2 free games instead of 1.
It's all wishful thinking but at the end of the day I want to see both of these systems succeed because the market becomes a bit stagnant without competition.
So without individually cataloging all these replies 100% , It seemed on rough guess that about half the people commenting essentially have no intention of buying an xbox one for a variety of reasons. This being a 9 pages thread with only a few conversations that means there are around 400 posters who voiced an opinion. 200 of them are already lost to MS.
Of the other 200 or so , it seems about 20 actually bought an xbox one already but I also got the impression that 1 or 2 of those 2 don't plan to keep it.
So , knock it down to 180 then. Most of you guys all seem to want the same thing- more exclusive games (that is , stuff that is actually ONLY on xbox one, not even PC) , a cheaper price and a smaller system. Sadly for me, only 1 other person mentioned backwards compatible peripherals in regards to a forza steering wheel.
So it begs a further question from me (and sadly I don't work at MS so whatever I propose won't mean shit) , would you then be willing to buy an Xbox One that was 50% smaller , came with a 1TB hard drive , no bluray drive , no kinect , no HDMI in. It was basically just a digital only set top box that came with a digital copy of Halo Master Chief collection and , this whole package was just 299.99 USD ?
I feel such a package could be possible next year , in fact they could even launch it at 249.99 if they kept it at a 500GB hard drive I think.
Keeping up with the retail dependent market, they could keep the current model available with the blu-ray drive but sell it for 349.99 and slap a 1 TB hard drive in there along with 2 free games instead of 1.
It's all wishful thinking but at the end of the day I want to see both of these systems succeed because the market becomes a bit stagnant without competition.
I don't know and I guess that's the big problem for MS right now.
I'll buy every Sony and Nintendo platform because of Naughty Dog and EAD Tokyo respectively. I don't feel like Microsoft has a team to counter those names. And looking at the MS exclusives... nope. Not my cup of tea. In addition to that I don't even know a person who owns an Xbox One so all third party games would be on PS4 or PC anyway.
Tough situation. A new (real) Fable, Viva Piñata (not f2p) and Lost Odyssey 2 would be neat but again, nothing I'd pay 400 for.
I'll buy every Sony and Nintendo platform because of Naughty Dog and EAD Tokyo respectively. I don't feel like Microsoft has a team to counter those names. And looking at the MS exclusives... nope. Not my cup of tea. In addition to that I don't even know a person who owns an Xbox One so all third party games would be on PS4 or PC anyway.
Tough situation. A new (real) Fable, Viva Piñata (not f2p) and Lost Odyssey 2 would be neat but again, nothing I'd pay 400 for.
Final Verdict
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Good Luck!! 360 still cost more than $100....
Rogue_element
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A longtime 360 fan here, who jumped ship to PS4 when i realised the XBone would have a mandatory Kinect with it. I bought the first Kinect when it came out, and , subsequently , as a 42 year old gamer brought up with the Atari VCS and most consoles after that, i was disgusted in myself that i (along with millions of others) had been duped by a piece of shit gimmick - there was no way I'd ever buy another Kinect, no matter what crap MS fed us about it being able to read heart beats etc etc. By the time Kinect 2 went away, I had already realised that the XBox One was underpowered and overpriced in comparison to the PS4. Mandatory PS Plus subscription for the PS4 kicked in which was the final nail in the coffin for the XBox. I'm on a decent enough salary, but i cannot justify two subscriptions of 40 quid a year. The choice for me is the system with the better 3rd party performance and the (still) cheaper price in the Uk. Unless the Bone comes down to £249.00 in the UK, and i can justify its existence in my living room for exclusives that arent on my PC or PS4 i will never buy Microsoft's console.
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You casually dismiss the differences of what MS offers for their product and the capacity of MS to deliver consistent and robust monthly updates but don't allow those who disagree with you to dismiss the minute differences in graphical fidelity between both machines.
The differences are minute. I don't why I'm being laughed at, but the difference in graphical power, when it comes to real world performance, has been negligible so far. In fact Destiny, the most anticipated game of the year by both camps, is going to run the same on both systems. And if they didn't, it wouldn't be as if the Destiny gameplay on the Xbox One would've been unplayable due to the space traveler getting his feet stuck in some 8-bit swamp.
Delicious Waffles
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I already have one so nothing. Looking forward to Destiny and FIFA 15.
Ascenion
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Every big MS exclusive aside from Forza has graced the PC at least once or was Xbox/PC exclusive game. I would be relatively comfortable with the assumption more will com eespecially if Xbox One sales continue to be like....this.
WooHooAlex
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To be totally honest, I'm not sure there is a single thing they could do to sway me at this point. Its not like last gen where multiplatform games were better on 360, and PS3 multiplayer was free so you could own and take advantage of both. I don't want to pay for Plus and Xbox Live.
Multiplatform games I'll play on My PS4, or a gaming PC if I decide to build one and Microsoft's exclusives don't do much for me TBH. So right now I don't think I'll have to buy an Xbox, but we'll see.
Multiplatform games I'll play on My PS4, or a gaming PC if I decide to build one and Microsoft's exclusives don't do much for me TBH. So right now I don't think I'll have to buy an Xbox, but we'll see.
The graphical differences are more than minute as are the power differences. Also the point - which I stand by - is that those features are simply (and clearly evidenced by the market of millions of people not just me) - not that compelling as differentiators.
I'm sorry but the evidence is that the graphical differences and perceived power gap matters more than all these features taken together.
You come across as really struggling to understand why features you think are terrific and important aren't being see so universally - the answer is simple, they're just not seen that way by the majority.
EDIT : this will be my final reply here as I don't wish to derail the thread which is about what would swing you to buying an Xbox One. As I noted early
ier for me it would be 8 to 10 really good exclusives that I couldn't access using the PC, PS4, 360, PS3 that I already own.
gigantor21
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Two things:
1) A standout, "holyshitIhavetobuythisyesterday" title that I simply CAN'T do without.
2) $300 or less for either console new. Assuming #1 doesn't happen first, the Xbox One hitting that mark quickly means that it's crashing and burning and will likely continue to get cheaper fast. If it takes a long time, then by the time I get one there will be a ton of good games out to justify the investment.
Both of those apply to the PS4 as well, as I highly doubt we'll see it at $300 before the end of next year at the earliest.
1) A standout, "holyshitIhavetobuythisyesterday" title that I simply CAN'T do without.
2) $300 or less for either console new. Assuming #1 doesn't happen first, the Xbox One hitting that mark quickly means that it's crashing and burning and will likely continue to get cheaper fast. If it takes a long time, then by the time I get one there will be a ton of good games out to justify the investment.
Both of those apply to the PS4 as well, as I highly doubt we'll see it at $300 before the end of next year at the earliest.
geordiemp
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No they are not. Full HD is important.
Some don't mind the less sharp / more blur image quality, but for a games console its more important than side fluff. And apps / non game stuff is side fluff.
I can only speak for my opinion being UK, HDMI in when I have Sky + is just a complete waste. If I want a fluffy app device I will use an Ipad...
HORRORSHØW
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yeah, i'm gonna have to agree. i just don't care if my gaming system doubles as a fancy shmancy multimedia box. just give me the better looking and performing games.
intheinbetween
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not sure if the 99$ replies are serious, memes, or just trolling, can't quite tell
The Rain King
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My friend was gonna get a PS4 over an XB1 but she changed her mind just last week. She actually said she was really swayed by MS's capacity to deliver consistent and robust monthly updates. That and the negligible real world performance difference.
What about games like Tomb Raider and Murdered where the Xbox One version runs at half he framerate of the PS4 version?
Is that something you would label "minute"?
AmaterasuOni
Banned
I actually doubt I'd get it even with that price. Really, honestly. I think Wii U offers better value with higher price. Now when Microsoft is releasing Ryse on PC, I think all exclusives will get on PC eventually. So what's the point in owning Xbone? I have PS4 and PC already.
bought one at launch, plugged it in, menu was awful, experience was awful, didn't really enjoy what I played, put it back in the box... it's been there ever since.
I'm waiting for Halo, which is fucking sad because I beat the rest of them when they came out and still it's one of the only appealing things coming for it soon. I'm looking forward to Sunset Overdrive as well but right now I feel like I just threw away money.
never again (tm)
I'm waiting for Halo, which is fucking sad because I beat the rest of them when they came out and still it's one of the only appealing things coming for it soon. I'm looking forward to Sunset Overdrive as well but right now I feel like I just threw away money.
never again (tm)
I'd guess the translation would be:
"No plans to buy a Xbox One whatsoever but I'd grab one if it cost next to nothing."
oldschlgmr
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At $199, I'd consider it. Bought the 360 w/ Kinect last gen for like $150. There would have to be a similar deal for me to invest in a One. I have seen no exclusives that appeal to me enough to justify the purchase. If I did have one, multi-plats would go in this order: PC>PS4>One. So, there is pretty much nothing that it offers that I can't get better elsewhere.
intheinbetween
Member
you're just not interested in XB1, period.
and as a Wii U owner, it doesn't offer better value for its current msrp than XB1 to me, but you know, opinions.
Y0j1mb0
Member
Holy shit!! If what I bolded from your quote would happen I could care less about the price. I would buy an Xbox One today and this is from someone who owns and loves his PS4. Man, Deathrow was awesome. Who was it that developed that? Southbend Interactive? I don't remember but I remember it being my favorite Xbox game period...aside from Gun Valkyrie.
Unfortunately the Xbox One just doesn't have any games I'm interested in aside from Killer Instinct. That and its looking like most 3rd party games are better on the PS4 pretty much makes me shy away from it.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
Yeah, indeed. I see no value in Xbone, but I can see some value in Wii U: Bayonetta 2, Zelda, Pikmin and few others. And yes, these are gamining opinions.
Forza 5 was already enough.
But the included Kinect and all the other BS (that they later backed out on) was what turned me off.
Now that I can get one sans Kinect, I'll probably get one around Black Friday, waiting to see what kind of deals (if any) will be available. Though that white one is real tempting.
But the included Kinect and all the other BS (that they later backed out on) was what turned me off.
Now that I can get one sans Kinect, I'll probably get one around Black Friday, waiting to see what kind of deals (if any) will be available. Though that white one is real tempting.
boredandlazy
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Probably nothing.
After the crap they tried to pull last year if Sony bowed out of the console race I'd just start gaming on PC. Might compel me to buy buy a Nintendo console for the first time ever though.
I was close to buying a 360 on a few occasions last gen as that's what most of my workmates had, but this gen only one person has an XBOne and he's very much in the dude bro games camp.
After the crap they tried to pull last year if Sony bowed out of the console race I'd just start gaming on PC. Might compel me to buy buy a Nintendo console for the first time ever though.
I was close to buying a 360 on a few occasions last gen as that's what most of my workmates had, but this gen only one person has an XBOne and he's very much in the dude bro games camp.
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