The Great Gonzales
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What's with all the dislike/lukewarmness for Wario Land all of a sudden? They're some of Nintendo's best platformers, I think.
Y'all just have bad taste
Y'all just have bad taste
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 12: Gwah, hah. Welcome to the Bowser's game.
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The anime came out after Smash 64 and Melee. The show actually took moves from those games.
TheSlySoul
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Possible. I see them influenced, but not the exact same model. I have a feeling it will be like AT's in that some tie in to revealed fighters (Ashley for example) and some are just there for kicks (like Tak). So yeah it could mean something or nothing at all. My guess is most of the hats are based on the roster with some being unique (like frog or cowboy hat).
Yeah, I noticed it more with the girl. Still, the hat is way different than the 3DS version. So it is not a direct model rip.
Punchy4486
Banned
Luigi is the Dan of the Nintendo universe.
Nocturnowl
Member
Wario Land series is truth my smash brothers, much better than Yoshi's rapidly declining run of platforming outings while we're on about the Mario offshoots.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Ampersands
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It should be different, because it's a massive fuck up on Sakurai's part if he goes about it the same way and my interest in playing Sm4sh competitively just went way down.
The fact that this image exists, coupled with what we've seen today, does not make me think that he's going to treat custom moves differently to equipment and put them in an quick to access location.
God damn it.
Yeah, it does not look good. Even when playing casually, I would be too lazy to go to a separate menu just to change the special attacks of a character.
But Sakurai did say that you could use custom movesets when playing with friends online, right? The customization screen can't be too far from the character select screen...
Besides Wario Land 1 and VB Wario Land, they're very different games from your typical platformers. They're not unlike the Yoshi games, where it's more about slower exploration of the levels rather than being an acrobat darting through obstacles with grace and finesse.
While Mario makes use of a myriad of tricks and innate speed and acrobatics, Wario lumbers through levels like a brute, bashing and smashing and bending everything else to suit him. It's a different style of play and I can see how someone would like one but not the other.
except shake it/dimension which is just bad. good feel is bad at video games
Neoriceisgood
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Only new thing that stood out to me in the Coro Coro scans is the Yoshi hat for mii.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
That's not a Yoshi Hat. It's the Frog Hat from StreetPass Mii Plaza.
Neoriceisgood
Member
Oohh okay, the picture I saw of it was too tiny to make out what it was.
That and having the Frog hat paired with Yoshi didn't help either. It's confused a lot of people.
Shadow Hog
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Wario Land 2 and 3 remain some of my favorite platformers of all time. Just kind of a chill atmosphere, where there may be no danger of dying, but there are plenty of nooks and crannies to check out and several puzzles involving Wario's various moves and transformations to be solved, which reveal all sorts of treasures when completed. Granted, WL2 is more about linear stages where you make your way to a goal (or a secret goal in some stages - yay branching paths), while WL3 is more about building your moveset back up from an initial pared-down state, while revisiting stages as your moveset grows or items you acquire open up new areas, but they play pretty similarly in spite of those differences.
Didn't like 1 and 4 quite as much. 1 just feels extremely janky in comparison to its later games, and while 4 is much more on the level of 2 and 3 (the addition of a health meter does admittedly work pretty well with the gameplay design, better than I'd feared it would), it's just far too short. Shake It! was pretty good too, but I'd rank it below 4 (but above 1); I'm not entirely sure why they decided they had to ape the WL4 formula so closely when WL2, WL3 and WL4 all built on one another with their own differing goals and gameplay quirks. There wasn't even really a good reason for aping the timed escape aspect of the game!
Didn't like 1 and 4 quite as much. 1 just feels extremely janky in comparison to its later games, and while 4 is much more on the level of 2 and 3 (the addition of a health meter does admittedly work pretty well with the gameplay design, better than I'd feared it would), it's just far too short. Shake It! was pretty good too, but I'd rank it below 4 (but above 1); I'm not entirely sure why they decided they had to ape the WL4 formula so closely when WL2, WL3 and WL4 all built on one another with their own differing goals and gameplay quirks. There wasn't even really a good reason for aping the timed escape aspect of the game!
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, see this proves that it is not straight up rips and more inspirations. I really do want them to pick Rhythm Heaven monkey hat for Smash 4.Yep! Dunno why everyone is assuming it's Yoshi.
The Great Gonzales
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Yeah, I can totally see why someone would find WL games slow or clunky or bland or whatever the complaint is. I was just a little surprised to see a couple people express that all at once. In the past, whenever WL is brought up around here, pretty much everyone who's spoken has liked the series.
and shake it is the best game in the series so i dunno what you're on about
Neoriceisgood
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I doubt the Rhythm Heaven monkey hat will be in Brawl.
YES! Definitely my favorite in the series!
The Great Gonzales
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I wouldn't say Shake It "aped" the timed escape thing from WL4. WL4's escapes were pretty bland, but Shake It, adding the dasherators, really gave the escape sections some substance. You weren't just backtracking through the level; you were moving through the level in a whole new way, making use of new mechanics (the sliding, the longer jumps, the quick turns,) and often you were taking a whole different path and getting heretofore unreachable gems and treasures.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Good for you. When you do that, then invite me to your room so I can wreck Waluigi so much
I think Waluigi is way way overrated character in Nintendo universe. He belong in filler section and stay there as long as he can before he rot away.
I don't think anyone said they were rips since the models are clearly higher quality, but it is very obvious what they are based on. So far we've only had the wide brimmed cowboy hat that is unique and I suspect that non Nintendo hats will still outnumber Nintendo hats.
WHAT I'M ON ABOUT IS
Outside of pretty graphics, Shake It is a pretty shallow game. You see most of what the game has to offer in the first three levels and without Wario's abilities from 2, 3 and 4 there's very little variety.
I just don't think Good Feel's very good at making varied and compelling games. I've tried going back to both Shake It and Epic Yarn a number of times, but I can't bring myself to play more than one or two levels without getting bored. They're definitely not bad games, but I don't think they stack up to their kin.
Outside of pretty graphics, Shake It is a pretty shallow game. You see most of what the game has to offer in the first three levels and without Wario's abilities from 2, 3 and 4 there's very little variety.
I just don't think Good Feel's very good at making varied and compelling games. I've tried going back to both Shake It and Epic Yarn a number of times, but I can't bring myself to play more than one or two levels without getting bored. They're definitely not bad games, but I don't think they stack up to their kin.
balladofwindfishes
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Aβydoς;124866911 said:
Same here. I have no real way to get Streetpasses. I'm not carrying my hulking 3DSXL around on the off chance I meet some kid also carrying their's. When I see Streetpass content in games I just sigh and wish they realized not everyone can get Streetpasses.
Troubled Bat
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EDIT: Ignore this post. Lol
Wolf Dawgz
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http://www.takuchat.com/firmly-beli...character-selection-slots-50-characters-play/
An article about why SSB4 will have 50 characters to play as by looking at the 3DS menu screen.
An article about why SSB4 will have 50 characters to play as by looking at the 3DS menu screen.
astrogamer
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I can't imagine it would be like that except maybe for equipment. I think it would be for getting trophies like streetpassing would give you a random trophy from their collection with maybe a couple exclusive to streetpassAβydoς;124866911 said:
Neoriceisgood
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I hope it's connected so I can make you all jealous by wearing a dumb ass warp pipe on my head.
The Great Gonzales
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That's funny, I feel it's just the opposite: as you progress, the game is always coming up with new tricks and mechanics. You start with traditional platforming levels, and then you get bomb blocks, and dashing on water, and giant rolling Indiana Jones boulders, ice mechanics, slot machines, submarines, rocket buckets, etc. Many of the secret levels are disappointing, as they're just more difficult versions of regular levels, but I think Shake It does an excellent job in terms of variety.
I definitely agree on the lack of abilities, though. Aside from Flaming Wario (which is well-implemented) and the rarely-used Snowball Wario and Tiny Wario, there's nothing. It's a shame that this signature element of the series was left out.
Good for you. When you do that, then invite me to your room so I can wreck Waluigi so much
I think Waluigi is way way overrated character in Nintendo universe. He belong in filler section and stay there as long as he can before he rot away.
damn, Heath cutthroat
You're not wrong about him belonging in the filler section, though.
Troubled Bat
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Good for you. When you do that, then invite me to your room so I can wreck Waluigi so much
I think Waluigi is way way overrated character in Nintendo universe. He belong in filler section and stay there as long as he can before he rot away.
PadWarrior
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Heath has been possessed by thanos cat lol
That's a cat?
now that the avatar is gone I need to save this for future use
and it will get a lot of use
PadWarrior
Member
I thought it was? I'm on my phone so I could be wrong
The Great Gonzales
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Baron von Loathsome
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It's just that Nintendo is jealous because Waluigi wasn't made by them!
Also technically Waluigi had another recurring move.
theprodigy
Member
seems like a bit of a stretch
PadWarrior
Member
Well that's even worse
I need maximum Waluigi Time
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Hell, if I'm actually Thanos Cat. I would clenched my fist with Infinity Glove, and would erase Waluigi from the existence and people's minds. People wouldn't even remember that he would exists, when I proudly told myself that I saved the World from the evilness of Waluigi.
Batty and Zroid pls.
Damn Right.
*clenched his fist* Look at my eyes, it's cat. Cat, Cat, Cat, CAT!