Robin Williams dead at 63

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Pure speculation.

Severe depression is very common after open heart surgery which Mr. Williams underwent in 2009. Although that was 5 years ago, those who have dealt with depression or have loved ones who have know it can get worse over time if not treated.

I guess I am grasping at straws, looking for answers.

I can't say it enough. RIP Robin.
 
dark_inferno said:
I know that he had depression. But i want to know the exact reason why. Sometimes its not the "He was depressed" routine. Most of the times there is something behind it.
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It isn't the answer you want, but sometimes it's just feeling that you can't continue your life with your disease. I have refractory depression, amongst a list of other, meaning medicine doesn't work. Therapy helps, but I can't afford it more than once a week. I stay completely sober except caffeine, and it's hell. I've had an unfortunate history of suicides in my life, and people have all reacted with similar questions. Substance abuse wouldn't help, but I wouldn't blame anyone.

Sometimes the unfortunate answer is the end and beginning is all you know, and from there people draw their conclusions. Maybe we'll know more tomorrow, but his family has asked for their privacy. This may be the best we get for a few days, a while, or forever. I just hope his family can find their peace in it.
 
I don't know if this has been posted on here yet but this is supposedly the last photo anybody took of Robin:

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Clockwork5 said:
Pure speculation.

Severe depression is very common after open heart surgery which Mr. Williams underwent in 2009. Although that was 5 years ago, those who have dealt with depression or have loved ones who have know it can get worse over time if not treated.

I guess I am grasping at straws, looking for answers.

I can't say it enough. RIP Robin.
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It's kind of telling that the publicist made sure to make the note that he was suffering from severe depression in the announcement. That and he's been in and out of rehab for a while now.
 
Wow, I don't know why but that really hit me. I completely didn't expect this to happen, I'm stunned. RIP

dark_inferno said:
I know that he had depression. But i want to know the exact reason why. Sometimes its not the "He was depressed" routine. Most of the times there is something behind it.
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Your attitude is quite widespread and is part of the problem with how depression is treated by the society. There might have been, but not necessarily must have been something behind it. It could have even been something entirely trivial.
 
CassSept said:
Your attitude is quite widespread and is part of the problem with how depression is treated by the society. There might have been, but not necessarily must have been something behind it. It could have even been something entirely trivial.
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The person you are speaking to seemed to allow that there might be no other answer than "he was depressed". I don't know why you need to declare that he is a part of some problem.

Because whether Robin was rationally sad or clinically depressed, there may, in fact, have been a reason. Even the clinically depressed might be ruminating on some particular issue. Nothing wrong with wanting to know if there was.
 
Kano on the Phone said:
You don't seem to have heard people discuss suicide online. There are some fundamentally fucked up and wrong points of view where it comes to the mentally ill. If there was less disdain and more understanding we'd have less stories like this.
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Was talking to some students in class when the subject came up. She dismissively said something along the lines of 'him being rich enough to afford treatment'. It's not the kind of thing that makes you think rationally by its very nature though.
 
Just saw it now on the news. I feel horrible atm. My condolences to his friends and family. According to the news report he was struggling with drug problems, which I wasn't aware of. I'm not one to follow celebrities lives in any detail. His performance as Genie will always be my favourite. This will make big waves in the worlds of acting and comedy.

RIP
 
BocoDragon said:
The person you are speaking to seemed to allow that there might be no other answer than "he was depressed". I don't know why you need to declare that he is a part of some problem.

Because whether Robin was rationally sad or clinically depressed, there may, in fact, have been a reason. Even the clinically depressed might be ruminating on some particular issue. Nothing wrong with wanting to know if there was.
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Maybe I phrased that badly, I didn't mean to sound aggressive, but this really sounds like the common reasoning that "there must be something more behind it", which often isn't the reason. It just happens.
 
CassSept said:
Maybe I phrased that badly, I didn't mean to sound aggressive, but this really sounds like the common reasoning that "there must be something more behind it", which often isn't the reason. It just happens.
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I respect your point then, that we should allow that there may be no logical reason.
 
Hit me so hard. I've been entertained by this man for over 30 years. He's made me laugh and cry and think. I never imagined he would take his life. Wow. Also watching a clip of him on a website called "Funny or Die" was very uncomfortable.
 
Sub_Level said:
Was talking to some students in class when the subject came up. She dismissively said something along the lines of 'him being rich enough to afford treatment'. It's not the kind of thing that makes you think rationally by its very nature though.
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IMHO treatment is done by professional people who've gone through the same experiences with other people, but they cannot guarantee that the person will be successful. You can listen to someone, repeat their problems back to them, but I feel like that only guarantees the professional's job back at the end of the day. That they won't get fired the next time. It feels very robotic. The institutions I've seen are more like checklists. They perform the necessary tasks and the BS psychiatrist or nurse questions their mental stability and then they leave when those duties are fulfilled. I can only imagine money making it even worse. Luxury mixed with therapy? There seems to be hidden demons awaiting in the shadows. Some are conquered more than others. We may not know why this happened, but I'm sure not blaming him for treatments that were "possibly" available.

He's also a celebrity who entertains people. I'd recon half the staff at a treatment center enjoyed his movies. Hell they may of been educational tools. Those centers rely on media to educate as well.
 
dark_inferno said:
I know that he had depression. But i want to know the exact reason why. Sometimes its not the "He was depressed" routine. Most of the times there is something behind it.
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You are mistaking depression for sadness; they are not the same. You can have things to be sad about. But depression is often a beast of its own, that has no reason. It just is what it is, and it's horrible and hard to fight through.
 
Wow. Woke up to this news and I've felt like shit for the whole day.

Knew he was having troubles but didn't think he would off himself.
 
I swear i thought i read this a few months ago but it turned out to be someone else with a similar name... At the time i was like nooo not robin williams

now this has happened i avoided reading or watching anything at work ... This one hurts because he was unique and made everyone happy

RIP
 
When Zelda was on Twitch a month or two ago I ended up in a room with only a few other people. I kept it brief and said she was really cool and that her father was one of my favorite comedians/people of all time. She gave me a smiley face back and said she would tell him I said that.

:( Worst news I've heard in a long, long time. An absolute fucking legend
 
I always struggle to understand why people take their own lives. May he RIP.


“But only in their dreams can men be truly free It was always thus and always thus will be.”
 
Damn that tweet by Zelda. ;_;

So unexpected to hear this news and for it to be a suicide?!

He's not suffering anymore, but it still doesn't make it any easier to cope with this loss.

RIP Robin Williams
 
GhaleonEB said:
But depression is often a beast of its own, that has no reason. It just is what it is, and it's horrible and hard to fight through.
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I had a guy I worked with tell me once that there was no reason for people to be depressed. The only reason people were depressed was because they did something to bring it on themselves. He was an idiot.
 
Seven hours later and I still can't comprehend this.

I'm gonna watch his movies and stand-up acts over the next couple of days. Probably start with World's Greatest Dad to hit the humor and sad notes mixed perfectly.
 
severe depression plus him being an alcoholic/recovering alcoholic did him no favours it would pretty much make the symptoms of depression more severe
 
What a terrible loss...I don't want to believe it :( I haven't felt this way about a celebrity death since MJ passed away.

I always loved his movies as a kid and he was easily one the funniest guys in the business. He's a legend and will be missed.


My condolences to his family/friends and Zelda who I know visits gaf sometimes.

RIP
 
I was just telling someone I know that it was ridiculous he had never watched Ms. Doubtfire after seeing it on his Netflix Queue this past Sunday. :(

R.I.P. Mr. Williams, thank you for the laughs.
 
GhaleonEB said:
You are mistaking depression for sadness; they are not the same. You can have things to be sad about. But depression is often a beast of its own, that has no reason. It just is what it is, and it's horrible and hard to fight through.
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It seems many of the very talented comedians and comedic actors ended up in that direction as a means to try and fight their depression.

John Candy though it was his weight and heart that took him was a manic depressive. Bring so much joy to other peoples lives and strive so hard to deliver on that and yet have such a dark life themselves
 
Everyone is talking about depression and not mentioning that he was clearly a manic depressive. I don't know why I feel the need to point this out other than to note that they are in fact different. I encourage everyone to learn and understand it.

RIP

edit: my speculation, obviously. A quick google search has him denying it. I'm not an expert but I feel like I know bipolar when I see it, having lived with it and having several members of my extended family with severe forms of it.
 
This is such fucked up news to wake up to :( Jumanji and Flubber were two of the movies that I watched a million times as a child, and now as an grown up, I still really enjoy (most) of his movies.
The fact that he wasn't that old makes it even worse. RIP robin Williams, truly a comedian legend.
 
Many people think that suicide is the coward's way out.

I say they've never been to the bottom of that pit. The crushing weight of it, the emptiness -- the only thing you have in the depth of your gut is a searing pain that you can't get rid of, like someone's stabbed you and twisted, like you're choking on something hot, like... It's difficult to describe. But no matter how simple another alternative may seem to the casual observer, to the person that has reached that moment of despair...

Let's just say that to them, there are no other alternatives. You can't see, you can't hear, or feel, or smell -- the only thing in your mind that overwhelms all is how much you just want to die and get it over with. You can have all the support of the world, but you feel distant, alone. You resent those around you because try as they might, they do not understand what is happening to you, even though you know it's not their fault, even though you feel it's you that is the defect - you resent them.

And when you think about death -- the one shining light in that pit of darkness -- you can't help but look forward to it. It's freedom, it's blissful. Maybe it's because of the unknown; you already know your life is shit, you're always depressed so you're a burden on all these people that love you and support you. Sure, it's going to hurt them that you're gone, but fuck, it's only going to be for a little while right? They'll get over you. They'll understand that you couldn't fight anymore. You just convince yourself that it's alright. You're doing nothing wrong. It's just following nature's way. It makes sense.
 
MMarston said:
Apparently, Conan O'Brien found out about his passing midway through a taping of his show and proceeded to break the bad news to his audience.
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Damn. You can tell Robin meant a lot to him. He's on the verge of tears through the entire clip.

This is one of the reasons that I love Conan, and Craig Ferguson too. They're some of the goofiest guys on TV but they're not afraid to address a tragic event like this and have a genuine emotional moment while the cameras are rolling.
 
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