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[onadesertedisland]

I think we need to establish with our law enforcement that someone being disrespectful to them is not cause for detainment nor arrest. Too many problems erupt from dumb males establishing "respect."

 

[Zaphod]

Not saying I do, the point is unless something was done to him, he's not a victim.

You're accusing him of being a provocateur after glancing over a few phones yet asking us to suspend all judgment on the killing of an unarmed teenager. I find that interesting where you place the benefit of the doubt as opposed to rushing towards judgment.

 

[commedieu]

Your eyesight/cognition has already proven problematic today. I wouldn't rely on your perception of this situation. You should consider this too.

 

[RyanDG]

1 you don't even know what happened after the shots.

2 how the hell did he even end up that close to a heavily armed police line that appears to be a cordon.

I don't know about you, but if I see that, I'm not walking up to it. Let alone near it.

For argument's sake... Even if he was approaching the line with the sole intent to illicit a response, considering the highly disturbing nature of the response to the protests so far, shouldn't that be something to be applauded? The more awareness brought to the issue of excessive police response to peaceful stimuli is sort of the full intent of these protests, which were started by a black teen being shot with his hands up and backing away.

 

[Velcro Fly]

Come on, we don't need to get like this towards each other.

it's too late. people have been arguing semantics in this thread for at least a day now. it started with the thread title and is continuing with shitty passive aggressive digs that have little or nothing to do with what happened.

i can see why they don't want to release the shooter's name. if he has a family or friends they will get death threats too. it's not enough that the FBI is down there investigating. People will want an eye for an eye.

 

[FreedomFighter]

I saw these versions too.

Love the message on the mailbox.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

You're accusing him of being a provocateur after glancing over a few phones yet asking us to suspend all judgment on the killing of an unarmed teenager.

There is literally no evidence available to the public whatsoever in the shooting. With these pictures however, you have a dude clearly way too close to a armed and decked out police line clearly there to keep people out.

 

[blackflag]

It's sad I have to teach my kids to be scared of the police. I mean they are white so there's like a 500% less chance they'll get murdered by them but still...

 

[Malyse]

Yeah, knowing context of a statement. What an asinine thing to ask.

Your posts are fucking awful. Please stop.

 

[commedieu]

it's too late. people have been arguing semantics in this thread for at least a day now. it started with the thread title and is continuing with shitty passive aggressive digs that have little or nothing to do with what happened.

i can see why they don't want to release the shooter's name. if he has a family or friends they will get death threats too. it's not enough that the FBI is down there investigating. People will want an eye for an eye.

Shitty digs against whom or what? Who were the two sides. I assume one side is angry at another public execution.

 

[Zaphod]

There is literally no evidence available to the public whatsoever in the shooting. With these pictures however, you have a dude clearly way too close to a armed and decked out police line clearly there to keep people out.

But you said you don't know what happened before the pictures. Maybe he took a wrong turn.

Edit: First you said they where 'shoppped.

 

[Volimar]

FAA ban of news helicopters over Ferguson. "TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES."

Law enforcement doesn't feel safe when there's a video record of their activities.

 

[commedieu]

But you said you don't know what happened before the pictures. Maybe he took a wrong turn.

His man purse surely looks ready to dehumanize. That's for sure.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

For argument's sake... Even if he was approaching the line with the sole intent to illicit a response, considering the highly disturbing nature of the response to the protests so far, shouldn't that be something to be applauded? The more awareness brought to the issue of excessive police response to peaceful stimuli is sort of the full intent of these protests, which were started by a black teen being shot with his hands up and backing away.

Applaud what? Intentionally agitating an already on edge police force? Especially the ones that are clearly sitting in a position to prevent traffic (for a reason we also don't know?)

No.

But you said you don't know what happened before the pictures. Maybe he took a wrong turn.

Edit: First you said they where 'shoppped.

Go back to the post I said two things.


And took a "wrong turn" down a long road into and directly in front of a cordon line? Yeah, no.

 

[jamesinclair]

There is literally no evidence available to the public whatsoever in the shooting. With these pictures however, you have a dude clearly way too close to a armed and decked out police line clearly there to keep people out.

He should have stayed home right?

After all, if he didnt want any trouble, he would never gone out. He was asking for it really. Its his fault if anything happens.

I mean, poor police, theyre just casually minding their own business re-enacting the invasion of iraq when this terrifying black man with a dehumanizing stare began to walk towards them. They were probably fearing for their life and having flashbacks of their childhood. They should be applauded for showing restraint in not shooting him.

 

[Sub_Level]

On the first night of riots a police helicopter was shot at. Temporary air space ban would be understandable.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Applaud what? Intentionally agitating an already on edge police force? Especially the ones that are clearly sitting in a position to prevent traffic (for a reason we also don't know?)

No.

HOW.ARE.YOU.SO.SURE.OF.THIS?

 

[commedieu]

Applaud what? Intentionally agitating an already on edge police force? Especially the ones that are clearly sitting in a position to prevent traffic (for a reason we also don't know?)

No.

Intentionally agitating professional officers trained to protect and serve the public.

Where do you see intention from a photo?

 

[CrimsonCommie]

Applaud what? Intentionally agitating an already on edge police force? Especially the ones that are clearly sitting in a position to prevent traffic (for a reason we also don't know?)

No.





Go back to the post I said two things.


And took a "wrong turn" down a long road into and directly in front of a cordon line? Yeah, no.

Where are these police you keep taking about? All I see are armed terrorists.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

His man purse surely looks ready to dehumanize. That's for sure.

honestly...that was my 3rd thought after looking at the picture of mans with his hands up.

"...that man purse is deserving of a 9-1-1 call to the fashion police. arrests need to be made."

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

it's too late. people have been arguing semantics in this thread for at least a day now. it started with the thread title and is continuing with shitty passive aggressive digs that have little or nothing to do with what happened.

i can see why they don't want to release the shooter's name. if he has a family or friends they will get death threats too. it's not enough that the FBI is down there investigating. People will want an eye for an eye.

I doubt his friends or family will be harmed, people want to know the whole story and be assured that justice is served.

If he gets a slap on the wrist, then yea, people will not be happy. These continued protests and general unrest are serving as a pretty good reminder that the public is paying attention to how this is being handled.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

HOW.ARE.YOU.SO.SURE.OF.THIS?

I'm replying in context of his post. Read what was quoted.

Intentionally agitating professional officers trained to protect and serve the public.

Where do you see intention from a photo?

See above post.

 

[Jarate]

does anyone have a tl;dr version of this?

I havent been paying attention to this story cause it kind of depresses me, but it seems like shit has gone real.

 

[jamesinclair]

If he gets a slap on the wrist, then yea, people will not be happy. These continued protests and general unrest are serving as a pretty good reminder that the public is paying attention to how this is being handled.

If the officer is not given 25 to life, riots will break out in multiple cities. I dont think theres any question about that.

 

[commedieu]

I'm relying in context of his post. Read what was quoted.

And he is responding to you saying that the man is asking for it because he is waking towards police on purpose. His post was using the notion that he was an agitator. As youve been saying the entire time. So the question remains, as that's your original assertion. That he is antagonizing the police.

Keep up.

 

[Zaphod]

Go back to the post I said two things.


And took a "wrong turn" down a long road into and directly in front of a cordon line? Yeah, no.

I've been asking why you are so quick to judge the picture, putting motive and manipulations to an event we know little about. I'm not sure how your first statement is relevant to that.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

And he is responding to you saying that the man is asking for it because he is waking towards police on purpose. So the question remains, as that's your original assertion. That he is antagonizing the police.

Keep up.

I think you need to reread his post following " for argument sake."

 

[mcfrank]

does anyone have a tl;dr version of this?

I havent been paying attention to this story cause it kind of depresses me, but it seems like shit has gone real.

Cop killed yet another black teenager who was of course unarmed. Fed up community has had enough.

 

[Flo_Evans]

Applaud what? Intentionally agitating an already on edge police force? Especially the ones that are clearly sitting in a position to prevent traffic (for a reason we also don't know?)

No.





Go back to the post I said two things.


And took a "wrong turn" down a long road into and directly in front of a cordon line? Yeah, no.

Dude.

This was from yesterday when the police cleared the streets in ferguson. People were scattered with rubber bullets, wooden batons and tear gas. Some people were just trying to get back to their house or car.

 

[see5harp]

If the officer is not given 25 to life, riots will break out in multiple cities. I dont think theres any question about that.

I think at this point, just not being on paid leave and losing his job would be a step forward for most people. 25 to life? Yea, I have no reason to suspect that will ever happen.

 

[Velcro Fly]

I think at this point, just not being on paid leave and losing his job would be a step forward for most people. 25 to life? Yea, I have no reason to suspect that will ever happen.

there's no way he's getting fired before the investigation is over. opening up themselves to lawsuits and taking on the police unions is not something they will want.

 

[commedieu]

I think you need to reread his post following with "for argument sake."

And he is agreeing wit your supposition that the unarmed man approached the police, which is why he said for the sake of the argument, let's assume what you are making up based on nothing, is true. And that there is still an inherent problem. So where do you get the idea, even before your last few posts, that the unarmed man is the agitator..? You say you don't know anything. Yet, you have already accused the images of being staged. You are sticking to a highly improbable scenario, to put a possible blame on the unarmed man.

You have already illustrated a trend to remove any responsibility from the police. And you are leaning speculation towards the guilt of the unarmed man.

 

[Trey]

Obama statement

cleverly worded. Says to stop rioting without actually bringing up that there are people rioting.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

And he is agreeing wit your supposition that the unarmed man approached the police, which is why he said for the sake of the argument, let's assume what you are making up based on nothing, is true. And that there is still an inherent problem. So where do you get the idea, even before your last few posts, that the unarmed man is the agitator..? You say you don't know anything. you have already accused the images of being staged. You are sticking to a highly improbable scenario, to put a possible blame on the unarmed man.

I've already went over this multiple times. You simply don't like the answer.

 

[jamesinclair]

I think at this point, just not being on paid leave and losing his job would be a step forward for most people. 25 to life? Yea, I have no reason to suspect that will ever happen.

Im just saying that the Rodney King riots were a result of the trial declaration (acquitted) rather than the event itself.

Youll note that no policy changes came as a result of the trial. All changes came after the riots

After the riots subsided significant actions were undertaken in the Los Angeles Police Department including the retrial of the police officers involved (even though they had already been tried and acquitted), increasing minority officers in the police department, analyzing excessive force, resignation of the police chief, loss of support for the Mayor of Los Angeles, and analyzing the general political and economic atmosphere that contributed to the riots.

 

[see5harp]

there's no way he's getting fired before the investigation is over. opening up themselves to lawsuits and taking on the police unions is not something they will want.

Sure, I don't mean like immediately. I just mean at some point in the near future. We need to start talking serious about requiring all police officers to wear cameras.

 

[BFIB]

My brother is a FedEx driver and does local deliveries in the area. He just text me and said at St. Clair Square there is an increased police presence. Asked one of the workers at one of the places he delivered to and said the mall has received a few phone calls about possible rioting occurring there tonight.

Why bring it to IL.....please lets just stop the looting and start working towards bringing this cop to justice.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Sure, I don't mean like immediately. I just mean at some point in the near future. We need to start talking serious about requiring all police officers to wear cameras.

A lot of departments are actually pushing for it. Both for their safety and the public's this is why it's so surprising his guy didn't have a mic or even a dash cam.

 

[Htown]

Been reading The Atlantic and affiliates while I (falsely assumed) the site was down

Are you on Comcast?

I saw these versions too.

Leave Yung Humma alone!

 

[User Name Here]

I saw these versions too.

Is that the police or the army? Holy crap.

 

[commedieu]

I've already went over this multiple times. You simply don't like the answer.

Your answer is a dodge to where you get the idea that he walked towards the police. And this was after you thought it was staged.

 

[BHZ Mayor]

I've already went over this multiple times. You simply don't like the answer.

People don't like the racial profiling you've been doing the whole argument? No shit.

 

[bender]

"Why is our police force so well armed?" is my immediate reaction to those photos.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

People don't like the racial profiling you've been doing the whole argument? No shit.

There's a difference between being pro law enforcement and being racist/racial profiling. But thanks.

 

[e_i]

Is that the police or the army? Holy crap.

Pretty much the same now.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Leave Yung Humma alone!

Police scared he's about to 'Return the Favor'

 

[SniperHunter]

Is that the police or the army? Holy crap.

seriously, talk about excessive use of force...

 

[ISOM]

I saw these versions too.

I think these guys got called because of state of emergency that was declared, effectively turning that area into martial law. I could be wrong though.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

There's a difference between being pro law enforcement and being racist/racial profiling. But thanks.

You're being pro-law enforcement at the cost of looking like a delusional fool.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Your answer is a dodge to where you get the idea that he walked towards the police. And this was after you thought it was staged.

I still think it is, I think from what we can see he walked up to get a response and get pictures taken. Do I know that? No. Do I think it's a good possibility? Yep. Just like a load of people here hate law enforcement and believe without evidence that a white cop executed an innocent teen in the street (other posters words, not mine).

Is it possible or even likely it went down that way? Sure, it could be, but no one is jumping on their asses for making that assertion.