Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds
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Dude, fucking priorities.
Please, tell me, DreamDrop. What can I do that the media can't?
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I'm saying that anyone in STL should be more concerned with keeping themselves save than providing updates to a fucking internet forum. That was an incredibly thoughtless comment.
No, I misunderstood you. I live in St. Louis.
Messofanego
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So, it's not safe over there? Man, it really is a war zone then. In USA of all countries.
Please stay safe
Well, watching the local morning news, the police were arresting people who weren't actually part of the protests (apparently) by-standers I suppose, for non compliance and/or noise violations.
It's not really a place you want to be. I don't think I'd call it a war zone though. Just an overly crazy amount of police presence.
School officials are delaying the start of school in the Ferguson/Florissant area until Monday.
You seem shocked?
This is a war hungry nation. No shock they militarize everything.
Nah, it's pretty tame except all the arrests and tear gas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YUm9xgN6m0
Are you purposely choosing to be blind? The police let their peaceful protest go on for hours without escalating the situation. Police should absolutely be prepared in case anything takes a turn for the worse. At 4:14:30 It clearly shows that a peaceful protest wasn't good enough for an individual within the crowd.
The only one who escalated anything was that individual. Although it may seem like a minor incident. One officer getting hit with a bottle is all it takes in situations like this.
Messofanego
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All it takes for what exactly? Police to teargas 300 peaceful protesters?
Messofanego
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Disproportionate responses are the name of the game.
The very presence of SWAT teams pointing sniper rifles at the crowd is escalation.
Not only that, but bottles can still be dangerous with the right additions. There were some molotov cocktails being thrown last night, after all.
BronsonLee
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Well, good to know that if I ever need help tearing down film equipment, I can always call the Ferguson police!
No its not!
See, that's bullshit. The cops didn't destroy multiple businesses at night and ransack the places.
This whole idea of glossing over the rioting is irresponsible. A fraction of people are using this to do completely irresponsible things that further embolden the already messed up police.
Both sides being wrong here isn't mutually exclusive. The shock comes from the fact that police are responsible for restoring order and these ones seem to only be interested in perpetuating chaos and violence.
Messofanego
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https://twitter.com/anildash
"Don't point an assault rifle at someone unless if you intend to kill them."
Isn't that a basic tenet of gun handling?
BronsonLee
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That and shooting center mass/chest are basically rule 1 and rule 2
As a European it's shocking to see how well armed (or stupendously over-armed) the police are. Saw this on newsweek: http://www.newsweek.com/how-americas-police-became-army-1033-program-264537
I mean wtf? WTF
https://twitter.com/anildash
"Don't point an assault rifle at someone unless if you intend to kill them."
Isn't that a basic tenet of gun handling?
This is so important to remember. The police are encouraging criminal acts by treating scores of citizens like criminals. They are completely responsible for the violence and riots that followed by showing protesters that violence is the only language they speak.
Messofanego
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The Technomancer
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This shouldn't be an anti-government issue, this should be an anti-militarization issue. I guarantee you give any organization, public or private, that kind of equipment and you're going to see this behavior.
ab.aeterno
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Fucking absolutely. You do not point a gun, loaded or unloaded, unless you are ready to pull the trigger and kill someone. It's the same for putting your finger on or near the trigger, which is what disgusts me about the way so many open carry activists handle their weapons.
https://twitter.com/anildash
"Don't point an assault rifle at someone unless if you intend to kill them."
Isn't that a basic tenet of gun handling?
I'm sorry but that's bullshit. Cops are literally above the law. You can't "protect" yourself from them due to this. They have such a high level superiority and immunity in situations they have to be held accountable. One person throwing a bottle does not mean they should be using a disportiontate response. If we're treating cops to be on the same level as that bottle thrower then citizens should be legally justified to defend themselves from cops.
The Technomancer
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Military industrial baby! When your military equipment is made by the market, the market gotta get paid
I don't want to be on the receiving end of this.
no way is this acceptable. the world is reaching a boiling point and the earth's resonance is quickening.
The protesters in Ferguson are really an important part of bring good American jobs back to good Americans.
The Technomancer
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Oh this is going to end well
BronsonLee
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Oh boy. They better hope they're right.
I don't think we should take anything that Anonymous says at face value.
At best they accidentally do the right thing sometimes and at worst they're irresponsible shit-starters who aren't even capable of providing basic googleable facts on any situation.
Hope they got the right guy.
AlimNassor
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The police have no right to break up the riots/protests. I don't fucking care if they're all throwing bottles and firebombs. This is war, and I want the protesters to storm their line and arrest them all for crimes against humanity. They covered up the execution of a boy, a fucking boy.
I have no sympathy for these Cops. The protesters are within their right to escalate it. Tear gas rubber bullets is one step away from mass murdering everyone, and knowing these Cops i'm sure they're anxious to just go in and kill everyone.
I have no sympathy for these Cops. The protesters are within their right to escalate it. Tear gas rubber bullets is one step away from mass murdering everyone, and knowing these Cops i'm sure they're anxious to just go in and kill everyone.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Would you be the kind of guy that hurled the bottle amongst a peaceful protest, then? They're not offenders, they just have to deal with the disproportionate consequences of an idiot throwing shit, and that's horrible.
Messofanego
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Team Top Hat
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What's the name? This needs to be known
The grenade launchers are probably meant for teargas and rubber bullets, pretty much every riot police in Europe has those as well. Though I'm not quite sure why such a tiny ass village fears riots in the first place. Many European forces also have assault rifles, but that's obviously for SWAT like forces, not for riot police. Riot police forces are often just armed with batons and pepper spray - never bring a gun to a fistfight and all.
Also, many European police forces also own armored vehicles. That's a modern German one for example:
€900,000 per unit. Obviously doesn't offer protection against landmines or IEDs, though...
Again, chances are that Anonymous is wrong. It'd be irresponsible as hell to take anything they say as fact.
Team Top Hat
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True..but atleast it's a start.
The grenade launchers are probably meant for teargas and rubber bullets, pretty much every riot police in Europe has those as well. Though I'm not quite sure why such a tiny ass village fears riots in the first place. Many European forces also have assault rifles, but that's obviously for SWAT like forces, not for riot police. Riot police forces are often just armed with batons and pepper spray - never bring a gun to a fistfight and all.
Also, many European police forces also own armored vehicles. That's a modern German one for example:
900,000 per unit.
That actually looks pretty nea-
oh hell no
A hunt for the wrong man is not a start anyone wants.
HerbertFish
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The anon message account was bullshit yesterday. I expect more bullshit from them.
It's on their twitter feed, https://twitter.com/TheAnonMessage
Apparently, pics, address and full Dox will be released today as well
grains of salt as always
Stitch
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wow, in the second video the cops are punching someone who's lying on the ground
Team Top Hat
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Fucking thugs. WTF has to be done for any one to stand up and fix this shit. Police state indeed.
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