July 2014 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes August 12th

cakely

Member
Has Amazon.com been a good barometer for NPD sales?

In terms of relative rankings for the NPD, yes, it's been quite accurate so far.

The only issue is that it tracks pre-orders in the month that they occur, and not on the month that they're actually sold. So, for example "Playstation 4 Destiny Bundle" appears as #23 for June, but NPD won't record those sales until September.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
Looks like we'll be having our first casualty of this month's NPD early. Damn that was quick.

Nah, I believe the mods know mercy when they see a new poster act a little silly.

You best believe you can't make hard statements like that in this thread without a proper source or someone vetting for you. People in here take sales pretty seriously.
Now you know.
 

Welfare

Member
Thank you for the warning. I'll just do numbers next time like everyone else. I did not think that I was going to get people excited like that my bad mods.

Still, you said report. When you say something like that, it implies you know the numbers to some degree of accuracy. If you're going to backpedal now, just one thing. Were you given numbers, or just Xbox 360+Xbox One > Nintendo family/Sony family?
 

SDCowboy

Member
In terms of relative rankings for the NPD, yes, it's been quite accurate so far.

The only issue is that it tracks pre-orders in the month that they occur, and not on the month that they're actually sold. So, for example "Playstation 4 Destiny Bundle" appears as #23 for June, but NPD won't record those sales until September.

Well it shouldn't count the sales until september as Amazon doens't take the money until it ships...correct me if I'm wrong.
 

Bandobacon

Neo Member
In terms of relative rankings for the NPD, yes, it's been quite accurate so far.

The only issue is that it tracks pre-orders in the month that they occur, and not on the month that they're actually sold. So, for example "Playstation 4 Destiny Bundle" appears as #23 for June, but NPD won't record those sales until September.

Ah so that is how amazon tracks it. Are we expecting like a 400k launch then in september NPD for it then? Cuz it has been above 30 each month since release
 
Nah, I believe the mods know mercy when they see a new poster act a little silly.

You best believe you can't make hard statements like that in this thread without a proper source or someone vetting for you. People in here take sales pretty seriously.
Now you know.

Good looking out, had no idea why people were going serious on me.
 
Good looking out, had no idea why people were going serious on me.

I've seen people banned in the past for stating things like "OUYA - 2K." Even for less than that.

Be very, very careful with any kind of statements about sales unless you actually have sales data.

ALWAYS preface unverified numbers with "I guess" or "I estimate" or "According to a rumour / unconfirmed report."
 

Squalor

Junior Member
All I know is that according to my report, Xbox sold more consoles than everyone else.
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jayu26

Member
Ah so that is how amazon tracks it. Are we expecting like a 400k launch then in september NPD for it then? Cuz it has been above 30 each month since release
Dude, all bets are off for September. With the way that bundle is going PS4 could be in 500-600k range.
 

AdanVC

Member
I just hope MK8 continues selling well. Last month it was at 2nd place. It needed a blue shell to be on first. *badum ts*
 
I've seen people banned in the past for stating things like "OUYA - 2K." Even for less than that.

Be very, very careful with any kind of statements about sales unless you actually have sales data.

ALWAYS preface unverified numbers with "I guess" or "I estimate" or "According to a rumour / unconfirmed report."

Id listen to her. The queen has spoken.
 
I'm kinda confused, was there some leaked report?

Not that I'm aware of...unless he's quoting something like Chartzzzzz or he works at massive corporations like Sony / Microsoft / Nintendo and has access to their sales estimates / a possible early NPD release.

But I highly---highly---doubt the latter is the case.
 
I just hope MK8 continues selling well. Last month it was at 2nd place. It needed a blue shell to be on first. *badum ts*

I think it will be in 3rd place

Here is my guess at the top 4 games sold

1st TLOU

2nd Watch_dogs

3rd Mario Kart 8

4th Tomodachi Life or Minecraft.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Good looking out, had no idea why people were going serious on me.

Let me help you out with that one.

Looks like I missed it.

All I know is that according to my report, Xbox sold more consoles than everyone else.

PSvita is horrendously low.
If you mean according to your anecdotal evidence, guesstimates or nether region, say so. If you are gathering data from an actual source, say so. If you are using a source and don't want to say so - and don't want others to think you do - don't say you have a source/report. Such insider-y claims are looked into so we don't get every Tom, Dick and Sally claiming to be insiders.

For a good example of what is allowed, see Abdiel's Best Buy report. And note he's been verified to actually work there. Otherwise, just post your numbers with the rest of us for what they are: guesses. Hope that helps. :)
 
Yeah I was just making a silly post. Like pasically "My prediction/report". Yikes, remind me never to try that ever again. Hopefully people see my last post and don't think two cents of my other post.

People have died for less. Sales-Age is ruthless.

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Though you won't be counted in this month's NPD 'contest', you can still share your predictions. I forgot about this month's :/
 
Let me help you out with that one.


If you mean according to your anecdotal evidence, guesstimates or nether region, say so. If you are gathering data from an actual source, say so. If you are using a source and don't want to say so - and don't want others to think you do - don't say you have a source/report. Such insider-y claims are looked into so we don't get every Tom, Dick and Sally claiming to be insiders.

For a good example of what is allowed, see Abdiel's Best Buy report. And note he's been verified to actually work there. Otherwise, just post your numbers with the rest of us for what they are: guesses. Hope that helps. :)

Thanks a lot!
 

lyrick

Member
Has Amazon.com been a good barometer for NPD sales?

You can use it as a nice barometer to indirectly solve some comparisons on a sku to sku basis, but you're limited to the pool of people that shop on Amazon.

Looking at the top 100 for 2014 (and limiting it to games released in 2014)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar#2

You can see that #31 The Last of Us Remastered [PS4] sold slightly less that #30 Titanfall [360] and more than #33 Metal Gear Solid V:Ground Zeros [PS4] . That's pretty amazing considering the limited quantity of time that TLoU [PS4] has been on the market.

If you wanted to pretend that Amazon represents a reasonably random distribution of the American sales, you could justify extrapolating that The Last of Us remastered sold somewhere in between MGSV:GS[PS4] and Titanfall [360] on a national level. Of course by doing so you're making a lot of assumptions that may turn out very inaccurate.

Inaccuracies are more common to happen when using a title like #28 Bravely Default in your analysis, as this title ranks higher on Amazon most likely due to a somewhat limited availability in the Brick and mortar retail sector.
 

AdanVC

Member
I think it will be in 3rd place

Here is my guess at the top 4 games sold

1st TLOU

2nd Watch_dogs

3rd Mario Kart 8

4th Tomodachi Life or Minecraft.

Let's hope so. Third place between those AAA games could be a big achievement for a Wii U game. Mario Kart 8 has demostrated to have very strong legs, I hope it can stay on top ten at least till the end of the year. Also simply because it's just a very good and fun game.
 

Salex_

Member
Really interested in seeing TLOU software sales and what it does for the hardware sales since it was a big end of the generation new IP and almost half of PS4 owners didn't own a PS3 (according to Sony).
 
Really interested in seeing TLOU software sales and what it does for the hardware sales since it was a big end of the generation new IP and almost half of PS4 owners didn't own a PS3 (according to Sony).

The effect of TLOU on hardware will be spread between July's and August's NPD's obviously as it launched so late in July on the 29th. Should give the system a bump no doubt for both months.
 
The effect of TLOU on hardware will be spread between July's and August's NPD's obviously as it launched so late in July on the 29th. Should give the system a bump no doubt for both months.

Dont know if the site is allowed but insiderp has TLOUR selling 1.5M copies in 24 hours. They have been pretty spot on with PS4 hardware numbers.
 
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