Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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BLACKLAC said:
Obama called the Governor before the Governor made a statement.
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Yeah, but President can't force the governor to do anything. If anything it's the Governor's ass on the line as he can be recalled or lose an election. Obama can't force the governor and his job is not on the line.
 
Mortemis said:
An army of Police officers heavily equipped needed 25 feet distance from the protesters "to keep safe". This dude out there with nothing and is right in the middle of them.
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Something so normal and innocuous comes across as badass because of the idiotic response of the police yesterday. He doesn't have that "Us vs. Them" mentality whereas the ones last night did.
 
Didn't get downtown for the moment of silence because I had to pick up books for the semester... I think I'm going to head over to a candlelight service that's close to my home which starts at 7 ct.
 
Glad to see they finally have someone in charge who know show to use his brain.

So much stupidity has been on display for the world to see.
 
Sanjuro said:
Has anything happened today on the streets since the conferences?
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Scroll up just a bit, something did happen. I'm astonished how such a simple action can be so meaningful. It's just a police officer standing with a crowd of people and not lined up and armed to the teeth. The fact that everyone is so happy to see it shows how bad things are getting.
 
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The police don't look like a ground force invading army and actually have a caring human being leading them. I bet there aren't any clashes with protesters tonight.
 
silkysmooth said:
The police don't look like a ground force invading army and actually have a caring human being leading them. I bet there aren't any clashes with protesters tonight.
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Let's hope so. Still, I can't help but thing there might be some pot stirrers who just want to see if they can cause a reaction.
 
Gordon Shumway said:
Black police turning on their white brothers in arms, and joining the rioters..as expected.

Or, read post above yours..
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Wait...

We really did have a NWO scenario!@?

When the black dude yesterday on the Infowars was shooting on the cops, I was surprised not one of the officers stepped forward to confront.
 
CrankyJay said:
Dude, you forgot Treme. A large part of that show was police corruption and the mistreatment of black Americans.
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Shit, that, too. He could definitely make a new season of the Wire or Treme just based on the militarization of the police through the War on Drugs.

Speaking of David Simon

I’m going to write something fresh about Ferguson, Missouri, and the once-extraordinary notion that law enforcement officers — uniquely authorized, trained and armed as they are to use lethal force against American civilians in peacetime as is necessary to serve the commonweal — need not be identified when they have in fact taken a human life. The notion that police officers are entitled to anonymity after such an action is not merely anti-democratic; it is, in fact, totalitarian. The idea that a police department, with all of its resources and sworn personnel, might claim to be unable to protect an individual officer from retribution, and therefore employ such anonymity to further protect the officer from his citizenry is even more astonishing. And any police agency engaging in such institutional cowardice which might then argue that its public should continue to come forward and cooperate with officers in police investigations and to trust in the outcome is little more than rank hypocrisy. After all, if an armed and sworn officer — backed by all the sworn personnel of his agency, by the power of its prosecutorial allies, the law and the courts — is afraid of harm, then why should any witness or party to any crime, unarmed and unallied as they are, be asked to come forward and participate in the process?

It would be nice to think that this new notion of frightened and vulnerable police officers, taking life anonymously and then hiding behind claims of imminent and actual threat, is some fresh hell of sudden origin, and that this Missouri police department is alone in having lost its moral compass. Not so.
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heliosRAzi said:
Shit, that, too. He could definitely make a new season of the Wire or Treme just based on the militarization of the police through the War on Drugs.

Speaking of David Simon
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Yo, David Simon dropping bombs as always.

If Fergusson just redeployed all those assets around the house of Mike Brown's killer, the cop would be safe from vigilantism, and the protesters would be safe from the cops.
 
heliosRAzi said:
Shit, that, too. He could definitely make a new season of the Wire or Treme just based on the militarization of the police through the War on Drugs.

Speaking of David Simon
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I could see why they have that rule put into place. Let's just say that a police officer uses lethal force against someone rightfully against someone in organized crime.

Would you want that officers identity shown, possibly hurting his family or friends, because some wacko from the mafia wanted to ruin the officers life for gunning down his brother?

I think in this case though, it's obviously being misused, so maybe a change to said rule.

This entire situation just reeks of the police being super incompetent at their jobs in every respect. Hopefully the police in this area will be replaced by citizens who actually want to defend the citizens, and not actively try to arrest the citizens.
 
Jarate said:
I could see why they have that rule put into place. Let's just say that a police officer uses lethal force against someone rightfully against someone in organized crime.

Would you want that officers identity shown, possibly hurting his family or friends, because some wacko from the mafia wanted to ruin the officers life for gunning down his brother?

I think in this case though, it's obviously being misused, so maybe a change to said rule.

This entire situation just reeks of the police being super incompetent at their jobs in every respect. Hopefully the police in this area will be replaced by citizens who actually want to defend the citizens, and not actively try to arrest the citizens.
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This wasn't that though, and it came off more like them covering up for one of their own. It's not like they couldn't send some cops over to watch over his place until this settles down. If anything it makes the guy seem that much more guilty in my mind, and the public will have his identity at some point anyway.
 
Probity said:
Either way, if he isn't careful he can get in a bunch of trouble. Not supposed to wear uniform outside of work, and definitely not out at protests in any way. Doesn't matter if it is his 'blue dress' or his actual uniform, it is not allowed.
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Unless the rules have changed very recently, that's not at all true.
 
TheJLC said:
Governor, not President. Governor called in the Troopers made his statement before Obama even made a statement. All the president did was call for calm for both sides. Governor on the other hand ordered the recall of St Louis police and replaced them with his Troopers. He also took over and placed this guy to lead now.

Hopefully this means that there will be some leadership on how this is handled. The new Highway Patrol head said that SWAT and all their gear is still at hand, which should be. However, they won't be used unless needed, which it's how it should be.
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Which, honestly, is exactly how it should have happened. I agree that the President's statement could have been better, but this should have been handled at a state level before it went federal, and I'm glad it did
 
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