Mental Atrophy
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It's going to change.
Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds
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It's going to change.
Angelus Errare
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Yea, I'm sure this line was uttered in the 60s as well.
Support the police...pray for peace.
Were those 6 shots backed by peace? Whoa.
Something tells me they'd hang onto that footage over the kid being dead to support that view.
TastyOreoFriend
Member
Well there is a silver lining in all this. As my grandad said, "the most dangerous racist is the one you don't know about".
Not much of a silver lining I'll admit.....
Devolution
Member
If you are supremely upset about all this shit going down, for god's sake volunteer or get a job that involves change.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
And vote in your local municipalities.
Surely you can see shit has changed since the 60s.
Maximilian E.
AKA MS-Evangelist
would you say that it improved since the 60´s or is it in the same level?
DragonSworne
Banned
Can the National Guard arrest the Ferguson police officers who start violating civil rights and breaking laws? That would be nice.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
This is the big one, go out and vote. Pay attention to elections other than the presidential. The mid-terms, your local races, all those smaller elections going on effect your lives far more than the big one every four years.
What angelus ia getting at is this isnt something that can be changed from just protest and holding hands. Its systematic. If you want to change things you would basically have to change the way things run in this country. Things that have been status quo for decades. That would take a political coup.
Bingo. In the mean time we gotta settle for band aids.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
It has improved. Has it improved to an acceptable standard? No way in hell. But it has improved.
While true, one of the benefits of our species currently being in the Information Age, is that hopefully documented injustices will be dealt will much more swiftly, barring censorship (which thankfully is nigh impossible thanks to technology at least in the US). If we lived in a world with only radio still, my hope would be lost, but completely raw, unfiltered, immediate information does not lie. I honestly believe things will get better more quickly than they have in the past partly due to it. It will probably get worse before it gets better, though. This is so long as the middle and lower classes aren't completely squished out, in which case a violent revolution of some degree will most likely occur, and all my guesses go out the window.
Chie Satonaka
Member
This is correct.
Devolution
Member
My generation definitely has to get more politically and socially active. And I'm not talking retweeting bullshit. Get off your ass and join a grassroots movement. Volunteer at a nonprofit (lord knows every one I've been involved in needs it). Instead of buying yourself shit, throw some money at one.
Anger is good, now go out and do something with it.
UltimaPooh
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Never going to change is not being realist about it. It's being cynical.
A realist would concede that things will change but the road to getting there is not going to be easy or quick.
A realists would actually say that if we continue on this current path things will not change for the better
Devolution
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You aren't going to get off the current path without movements, without people out in the streets saying "this is fucked up." In the 60s they did this in droves.
CrimsonCommie
Member
Yeah. We can't keep trying to fix a system that was built on racism.
They had mini wireless cameras in the 60's?
UltimaPooh
Member
There are multiple paths to get to progress.
Things are always going to get harder the closer you get to it.
You will always have that vocal minority that are afraid of change that keeps us from taking two steps forward.
I'm doing my part. I'm involved in local grassroots communities helping inner city youth. I'm definitely not trying to take this while lying down.
The thing is we need massive radical change. For starters we need to dismantle the ogliarchy controlling this country. Me teaching poor inner city kids how to program is only band aid.
UltimaPooh
Member
What else would we build off of?
That's all that's ever been. We don't have the capability to reverse time... nor travel it.
TastyOreoFriend
Member
Pretty much this. Slavery was only a few generations ago. Jim Crow was literally one or two generations ago depending on when you were born. It's gonna take a long time to flush the system of this shit, and even then it won't be %100, nothings absolute.
I doubt we'll see the changes we want to see in our life times. It'll be a grand children's kids kids sorta thing in my opinion. General apathy towards social issues in this country will see to that unfortunately.
benjipwns
Banned
They already did. "We are the ones we've been waiting for."
Pretty much. You have to turn the world on it's head if that's the position you want it to be in. Which is also damn near insurmountable the way I look at it, considering where control of most of the resources lies.
Devolution
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Well good, time to get more people on board. And I do agree the current system needs dismantling but part of our generation wants to be incredibly politically/socially lazy about it.
CrimsonCommie
Member
It has to be completely rebuilt. There is no other way for it to be fixed
and all there's ever been what? .
Blood Diamonds
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fucking disgusting
UltimaPooh
Member
You do realize what you are saying correct?
You want society to be rebuilt without racism. How would you achieve such a thing? Kill every human being on the planet and let new born babies of mixed races be the future?
maniac-kun
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Can someone give me short summary what happened? I didnt follow the news about this incident.
TastyOreoFriend
Member
Yeah but doing nothing is giving them exactly what they want. The protesting and speaking out needs to be maintained At the very least go down fighting.
benjipwns
Banned
They'd still find differences.
Like what happened today or...all of it?
This seems like the type of nihilistic thinking that sparks off a supervillain in comics.
r u a actual clown. u have to tell me if u r, that's the law.
Nabs
Member
Check the OP for a link with a detailed summary.
maniac-kun
Member
Thanks.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Just the point out again, for the first time since its inception in the 1960's Amnesty International is sending people into the United States to investigate civil rights violations because of this incident.
Edit: Source: https://twitter.com/AmnestyNZ/status/501226485156298752
Edit: Source: https://twitter.com/AmnestyNZ/status/501226485156298752
UltimaPooh
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Exactly... You can't achieve a new system devoid of racism. You gotta work with what you got and sadly, and unfortunately that was our society at one point in time.
Yeah. Sticking your head in the dirt never accomplishes anything.
UltimaPooh
Member
Hahaha
I thought it might have been too much in the vein of super villain world ending but I'm going with it.
Have a link to an article?
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thepotatoman
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A customer called the police, and I'm guessing the police got the shop to turn over the video as a part of the investigation for that customer's call.
CrimsonCommie
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We can build a society without systematic racism. But we won't be able to fix one with systematic racism embedded in its roots.
UltimaPooh
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thepotatoman
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EDIT: Gah this thread is hard to keep up on.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Yes, everyone is free to think for themselves.
But seriously. Think about what you are saying here.
Mental Atrophy
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Examples of what's unfixable, please.
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