Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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Cant even retract a statement without getting my throat jumped down because I misphrased.my statement.

Im out of this echo chamber.
You're getting "jumped" on because you keep couching your statements with careful qualifiers, despite the fact that there is clear evidence freely available to view.

I posted the video. Here it is again. Jump to the 35 second mark and watch for the next 10 seconds. You clearly see Johnson's hand place the box of cigarillo's back on the counter. http://video.foxnews.com/v/37324120...y-in-ferguson/?intcmp=obnetwork#sp=show-clips
 
Anyone got an autopsy report with a gunshot to the back? Or is that bullshit? Because the autopsy stuff isn't really lining up with some of the witness reports.

The bullet wound to the forearm could have happened from behind or from in front. Currently no way to tell.
 
Anyone got an autopsy report with a gunshot to the back? Or is that bullshit? Because the autopsy stuff isn't really lining up with some of the witness reports.

If I did not misunderstand the doctor there is one shot on his arm that could have been a shot from behind, but it's impossible to tell due to the flexibility of your arm. It could be one of several scenarios. If I understood that wrong someone please correct me, but that is how I understood what the doctor was saying.
 
Well it has been stated and proven many times that Johnson did not steal the cigars, which is why people have been getting agitated at your statements. Leaving that behind...

Wait what? When I went to bed last night it was accepted that Mike did steal the cigars, even their lawyers admitted it. Is there new information? Not that him stealing cigars has any baring on his murder.
 
It seems to me that the way the shots are all in that upper area near the head, that the cop unloaded those shots in a rapid fire succession while Brown was either standing with his head down and his arms up, or on the ground with his head down and his arms up.

Either way, I think the autopsy results show enough evidence considering the distance he was shot at, and the eyewitness reports, the cop needs to be arrested and charged.
 
Missed the presser, so the key points were no evidence of struggle and what else?

6 shots total that hit Brown. One could have possibly been from behind, but impossible to tell. Couple of shots had multiple entry/exit wounds. Last two shots killed him, and all but the last shot at the apex of his head were survivable.
Wait what? When I went to bed last night it was accepted that Mike did steal the cigars, even their lawyers admitted it. Is there new information? Not that him stealing cigars has any baring on his murder.

You are getting people mixed up Johnson is his friend. Brown is the man who died.
 
Missed the presser, so the key points were no evidence of struggle and what else?

Angle of the head wounds were downward and forward in relation to the body.


Wait what? When I went to bed last night it was accepted that Mike did steal the cigars, even their lawyers admitted it. Is there new information? Not that him stealing cigars has any baring on his murder.

Talking about johnson, not brown.
 
Wait what? When I went to bed last night it was accepted that Mike did steal the cigars, even their lawyers admitted it. Is there new information? Not that him stealing cigars has any baring on his murder.

It's been stated multiple times in this thread that he did in fact steal the cigars.
 
None of the bullets entered from the back, does not mean he wasn't fired on from behind. Not a hard concept.

No but a lot of the witnesses said he was struck in the back and that's when he turned around, hence my question.

They just claimed at this current press conference that there was an entry point on his head that led out the right eye.

Weird.

Also, has their been discussion about that background conversation in one of the videos? Is that bullshit too? Because the sources I've seen that come from seem like it'd be bullshit but it was in the video, so I'm not sure. GAF is smarter than me, so I rely on you guys.
 
Isn't the burglary stuff irrelevant, whether he did or didn't do it? I thought the officer that shot him had no idea of this "burglary"...so it divorces it from the specific altercation, regardless. No?

EDIT: nevermind, it's being discussed because people are trying to determine if the witness was an accomplice, therefore reliable or not...
 
The witnesses could have been mistaken about the shots fired while Brown was running away. The Wilson might have simply missed his shots fired while Browns back was to him.

Possibly when Brown was running he heard shots being fired, so he turned towards the officer with his hands up hoping the officer would stop shooting at him. Inadvertently giving the officer an easier target which he took advantage of.
 
So no evidence of struggle = The "reaching for my gun" story is now completely and unequivocally bullshit now right?

We know there was a struggle--all of the witnesses saw that. We don't know the extent of the struggle. It's unlikely he punched the cop.
 
No but a lot of the witnesses said he was struck in the back and that's when he turned around, hence my question.



Weird.
Bullets are fast and tiny. They probably thought one of the bullets fired at him, struck him (still could have in his arm). But it was more Brown turning around to surrender after being fired upon, thinking this would stop the cop from killing him. Sadly, he was wrong.
 
How would anyone possibly know that when Wilson is nowhere to be found? No hospital records AFAIK even confirm this. The only person saying this is the police chief.

The hospital can't just release records on patients. If the PD is saying he went to the hospital, he more than likely went to the hospital. Something like that is easily verifiable at trial.
 
I have seen no evidence of that. You would think the police would have released some sort of medical report to help support that claim though.

They stated there was damage to the face I thought in the press conference, but mentioned it may have happened when he fell to the ground, but was uncertain.

edit: Whoops you guys were talking about Wilson not Brown... MY FAULT!
 
How would anyone possibly know that when Wilson is nowhere to be found? No hospital records AFAIK even confirm this. The only person saying this is the police chief.

Ugh. This is such bullshit. I don't know how anyone could be on the police side of this issue. Even the most daft should see something wrong here.
 
How would anyone possibly know that when Wilson is nowhere to be found? No hospital records AFAIK even confirm this. The only person saying this is the police chief.
Who happens to be the same police chief who said an organized group of criminals encroached on their command center with Molotov's, when in actuality it was just the community peacefully protesting. Get this guy the fuck out of here with his BS.
 
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