IceDoesntHelp
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Japan.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 12: Gwah, hah. Welcome to the Bowser's game.
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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Japan.
Yeah they did. And Ape is on too despite Creatures being there as well lol
The Bankslammer
Member
Ape is on both the Melee and Brawl box (don't have Smash 64 handy but someone can look that up), and Itoi is on the Brawl box (maybe Mother 3 and Earthbound have different license holders?).
We already know that Mother content is in the game, so the copyright listing is incomplete.
We already know that Mother content is in the game, so the copyright listing is incomplete.
Yeah I feel the same way. This is why I can never be bothered or angered by a character inclusion. As long as the fans are happy.
The Great Gonzales
Member
I agree - Kojima's self-aggrandizement in Ground Zeroes is just disgusting - but I like the character Snake. As long as I can separate the character and the creator, I'm cool with Snake.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Maybe Nintendo fully owns the Mother IP now? Stranger things have happened. I'm puzzled as to why there is no Ubisoft copyright.
Finale Fireworker
Member
I made no such suggestion, I was just asking you a question. I hate characters too, just not enough to celebrate their exclusion.
avatar bet me, stardork
I got my sources. (found it on one of the image boards I visit from time to time).
Because Rayman isn't playable.
They'll give them a copyright blurb in the credits.
Storm Kyleis
Member
Cross-posting from the other thread:
Melee and Brawl boxarts had "APE Inc." (and in Brawl, Shigesato Itoi) for Ness and Lucas.
I think they're just hiding the companies of unnannounced characters, for the moment.
Melee and Brawl boxarts had "APE Inc." (and in Brawl, Shigesato Itoi) for Ness and Lucas.
I think they're just hiding the companies of unnannounced characters, for the moment.
Diddy Kong
Banned
because Rayman isn't playable. They'll have a mention in the credits I'm sure.
Did any 3rd party character not have their trademark listed beforehand? Its one thing to list it on the internet where you can change it when needed. Packaging is different, you can't retroactively change that to suit your needs.
friskykillface
Banned
Lol everyone that hated snake had no idea how to play as him
Only reason for wanting him cut
Oh well, that's why I can play as any character B^) infinity smash guantlet
Only reason for wanting him cut
Oh well, that's why I can play as any character B^) infinity smash guantlet
Finale Fireworker
Member
I wonder, if Itoi owns Mother 3 but Ape owns Earthbound, if this means Lucas isn't playable either. I know we're sort of moving in the direction or copyrights meaning nothing, but wouldn't an official piece of shelf merchandise be obligated to detail this kind of information?
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Mr.Miyamoto
Banned
Darn, it looks like the preorder copyright doesn't really confirm/deny anything because ITOI and Ape Inc. were indeed on the Brawl box copyright and I'm sure that no sane person expects everything from Mother to be cut from the new Smash Bros.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Why are they suddenly in the cutting board
I mean sure, if I was Sakurai and was looking for a third party to join, I'd probably skip over Snake considering Konami wants fuck all to do with Nintendo nowadays. But Snake was in Brawl, so by that event, I'd consider him a part of the Nintendo family, at least from a Smash POV.
RomanceDawn
Member
What a hearty laugh I have been given on this bright morn!
I keep seeing that picture posted with music updates but where is it on the actual site?
The Great Gonzales
Member
Eh, it's just a little schadenfreude. You actively dislike a character, so you get a little shot of pleasure when they get cut. Seems perfectly natural to me, and as long as you aren't too obnoxious about it - making it personal by rubbing it in the faces of people who liked that character - I wouldn't resent you for it.
Ape isn't on the smash 64 box, just nintendo, Hal laboratory, creatures inc and game freak.
Yeah I think Snake fans can still believe for a little longer.
Hot Coldman
Banned
whoever writes that fanfic can go straight to hell
PadWarrior
Member
Being this close feels so good
Hyperactivity
Banned
Whaaaat?...
hahaha, actually want to see the entire thing get completed
Why is Neiteio a girl?
Even if you plan to never use a particular character, it's inclusion in the game comes at a cost. I am not referring to the cost in resources for the developer (time, money, storage) but in mental cost for the players. Familiarity with all characters is a benefit, and devoting mental effort toward being familiar with too many characters can hamper the overall experience.
friskykillface
Banned
If Ness gets cut then one of the original 12 is cut and the world ends
APE inc is the best company name
Captain falcon the god back to starting roster B^)
APE inc is the best company name
Captain falcon the god back to starting roster B^)
Neoriceisgood
Member
I wish ROB summoned big gyromite pillars for his smashes.
I'd like to see ice climbers come back. I thought they had a cool mechanic to them.
Akibastman
Member
Just saw a commercial for Smash Bros 3DS on french television. And we're only the 18th of August !!!!
MrSaturn99
Member
There's no way both of the Mother characters are cut.
This is the first time I have seen this argument and I'm not sure how to feel about it :|
The Bankslammer
Member
Huh, bizarre.
... could it be possible that they were willing to keep Ness's appearance in the game so secret, that they would exclude APE from the copyright listing? I mean, that doesn't really make sense to me, but... Melee and Brawl had Mother starting characters and 64 didn't, so... I don't know...
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
I don't think it's the copyright info that seals Snake's fate, it's the fact that he's not visually represented on the back of the box along with the other third-party characters.
The writing's just on the wall. There is literally no reason they would hide Snake this long, especially when (a) Sonic was revealed almost a year ago now and (b) history tells us that Nintendo uses third-party characters on the box to sell the game.
I mean, if Sonic wasn't already long announced, that'd be one thing. But everything just doesn't add up; there's no logical reason Nintendo wouldn't use Snake to promote the game along with Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac-Man.
At least for me personally, I now feel 100% sure Snake is cut. If that's accurate, I won't really miss him that much (love the character but didn't really care about him in Smash one way or the other), but I will miss his Codec conversations and I feel pretty bad for all the Snake fans out there.
The writing's just on the wall. There is literally no reason they would hide Snake this long, especially when (a) Sonic was revealed almost a year ago now and (b) history tells us that Nintendo uses third-party characters on the box to sell the game.
I mean, if Sonic wasn't already long announced, that'd be one thing. But everything just doesn't add up; there's no logical reason Nintendo wouldn't use Snake to promote the game along with Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac-Man.
At least for me personally, I now feel 100% sure Snake is cut. If that's accurate, I won't really miss him that much (love the character but didn't really care about him in Smash one way or the other), but I will miss his Codec conversations and I feel pretty bad for all the Snake fans out there.
Do the packaging copyrights only have starter/revealed characters then maybe? It would make sense if the character is meant to be a secret that it's not revealed on the box.
Hot Coldman
Banned
also given the specifics of some of the characters in the fanfic
I'm pretty sure I know exactly who is behind this
they describe me as wearing clothing that I was wearing at the time of meeting a certain other SmashGAF regular
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
Ooh, do tell!
Your average gamer is more familiar with Snake than half of the characters in the SSB roster, so I'm not sure your theory applies here!
PadWarrior
Member
Who is it?
Mr.Miyamoto
Banned
I wouldn't call it suddenly. I think ROB was the "suprise!" character for Brawl like Wii Fit Trainer is for the new Smash Bros. He's not really a character per se so much as a personified peripheral and his lack of characterization in that regard would probably make him one of the softest-hitting characters to cut for the new games.
Wolf as well is mostly just an addendum to give the Star Fox series a third representative for Brawl. The tweaked clone-ness of the Star Fox/Falco/Wolf trio makes the other two prime targets for pruning. Since Falco has arguably the most personality of any members of the Star Fox team, I think that leaves Wolf for the easy snip to allow them the resources to "unclone" the likes of Falco and Ganondorf to a greater degree.
Neoriceisgood
Member
But how did they know about my sexy accent?
The Great Gonzales
Member
Don't tell us, it'll spoil the mystery!
Hyperactivity
Banned
Funny how the main savior of sake right now is Rayman and Ubisoft
Agreed, my heart goes out to all the Snake fans out there.I don't think it's the copyright info that seals Snake's fate, it's the fact that he's not visually represented on the back of the box along with the other third-party characters.
The writing's just on the wall. There is literally no reason they would hide Snake this long, especially when (a) Sonic was revealed almost a year ago now and (b) history tells us that Nintendo uses third-party characters on the box to sell the game.
I mean, if Sonic wasn't already long announced, that'd be one thing. But everything just doesn't add up; there's no logical reason Nintendo wouldn't use Snake to promote the game along with Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac-Man.
At least for me personally, I now feel 100% sure Snake is cut. If that's accurate, I won't really miss him that much (love the character but didn't really care about him in Smash one way or the other), but I will miss his Codec conversations and I feel pretty bad for all the Snake fans out there.