Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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Why is the discussion here so one-sided? Two people were reportedly shot with real live bullets tonight and it wasn't from the police.

It's simply not enough to say if the cops would just give it up everything would be cool.
There's bad eggs in the crowd that are trying to cause bigger issues but how the Police are reacting are a huge issue and with how insane they are acting that's the cause.
 
What I'm wondering is where are all those freedom dudes that open carry protest and resist any sort of gun regulation because they are afraid the police/government will take over are?

Considering the average person described above, I imagine they are on the cops side right? Which makes them fucking hypocrites.

I just had an image of open carry people showing up in Ferguson. *shudder*
 
Why is the discussion here so one-sided? Two people were reportedly shot with real live bullets tonight and it wasn't from the police.

It's simply not enough to say if the cops would just give it up everything would be cool.

No one is saying that.

What people are saying is that indiscriminately firing teargas and rubber bullets into residential neighborhoods, violating people's right to protest and freedom of press is disgusting, completely their fault and making things much much worse than they would be otherwise.
 
Seems like the Ferguson PD has gone completely out of control. Can't president Obama step in and do anything to stop this from getting even shittier than it already is ?
 
What I'm wondering is where are all those freedom dudes that open carry protest and resist any sort of gun regulation because they are afraid the police/government will take over are?.
Most of those people are watching this and saying "I told you so" at this point, I imagine. Most libertarian types seem to break with neocons in actually condemning police militarization.
 
What I'm wondering is where are all those freedom dudes that open carry protest and resist any sort of gun regulation because they are afraid the police/government will take over are?

Considering the average person described above, I imagine they are on the cops side right? Which makes them fucking hypocrites.
Buying ammo like crazy and saying that the "Obama is coming for our guns!" At the same time being racist and stuff.
 
Wow, either Antonio French is being really well insulated from events tonight, or someone got to him. He's done a complete 180 on his coverage.
 
What I'm wondering is where are all those freedom dudes that open carry protest and resist any sort of gun regulation because they are afraid the police/government will take over are?

Considering the average person described above, I imagine they are on the cops side right? Which makes them fucking hypocrites.
Yup...
 
Please enlighten me. Not sarcasm.

Unfortunately the infamous bank robbery in North Hollywood California forever changed law enforcement where they were massively out gunned. Thus they had to equip for potential further events.

No, I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. Are you really insinuating this isn't a racial issue? The image of a majority group of black protestors being aimed at with semiautomatic rifles by a majority of white police officers was such a powerful image that it brought me to tears. That is my only point. It beautifully summed up the hideous injustice that minorities face against law enforcement in America in a single image.

I'm sorry, but I take a middle of the road approach with racism until proven, and in the cases where it does happen, it comes from all races. Not just in law enforcement, but everywhere it can happen. Racism sucks, but apparently some people haven't evolved beyond that point in our society.

There are officers of other skin colors out there you know too, and they would be doing the same thing. And in the face of situation of how the State Police were handling things, they're following orders from their Captain, who isn't white.

And like that lady said in that VICE video, there's good and bad cops. That's like that for people of every profession.
 
This x 100.

I'm not trusting anything this filth says about this fucking event. They can keep the phantom molotovs. Maybe if there were some fucking cameras, they could prove it.

That bullshit about "stop throwing rocks" when there was no visual evidence anyone was throwing anything. It's all bullshit CYA tactics.
 
What I'm wondering is where are all those freedom dudes that open carry protest and resist any sort of gun regulation because they are afraid the police/government will take over are?

Considering the average person described above, I imagine they are on the cops side right? Which makes them fucking hypocrites.

All of those tea party/small government/People's rights groups are a bunch of hypocritical racist twats as are their supporters. Always going on and on about state rights, anti-police state, small government but not a single one of those fucks are in Ferguson…but hey at least they're protecting Clive Bundy's stank mildew ass as he "protects the border" and other fucking stupid nonsense.
 
Those people hiding in the bushes are likely hiding from teargas and rubber bullets already. Why not just leave them be? Someone hiding in a bush isn't a threat.

But Johnson seems to think so. Really, when the guy put the cones in the street...I was thinking to myself...why not just remove the cones with a good 10-20 men. 1 guy could do it and 9 or 19 could watch. But Johnson thinks it's some sort of booby trap or something. Come the fuck on man. The paranoia is mighty high...very small probability of the guy moving the cones doing that to pounce on the officers when they approach.
 
No one is saying that.

What people are saying is that indiscriminately firing teargas and rubber bullets into residential neighborhoods, violating people's right to protest and freedom of press is disgusting, completing their fault and making things much much worse than they would be otherwise.

The problem is how do they get to the bad elements in the crowds without dispersion methods? It's an issue of tactics. I do believe rubber bullets is way too excessive to be used indiscriminately.

Also, it's important to remember protests happen during the day and yet the police do not react violently to those demonstrations. It's only at night when provocation occurs that they feel the need to react from what we've been seeing.
 
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Shahid tried to talk to these agitators/instigators earlier. They were trying to provoke a fight with police.
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Video of the RCP, for those asking.
 
Seems like the Ferguson PD has gone completely out of control. Can't president Obama step in and do anything to stop this from getting even shittier than it already is ?
Tonight sounds like it got real bad by all parties involved. There are so many aspects to this tragedy that just seem to be bubbling over... I'm not sure what will happen, to be honest. It's too complicated to just stop at this point. It's evolved too far.
 
Unfortunately the infamous bank robbery in North Hollywood California forever changed law enforcement where they were massively out gunned. Thus they had to equip for potential further events.



I'm sorry, but I take a middle of the road approach with racism until proven, and in the cases where it does happen, it comes from all races. Not just in law enforcement, but everywhere it can happen. Racism sucks, but apparently some people haven't evolved beyond that point in our society.

There are officers of other skin colors out there you know too, and they would be doing the same thing. And in the face of situation of how the State Police were handling things, they're following orders from their Captain, who isn't white.

It comes from all races.

Racism sucks equally for everyone because racism is equally racist.

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I wish to Zod I was able to have your world view, pal. I really do.
 
The reason the people behind these attacks keep showing up is because the cops continue to provide these moments of tension where an attack on one person can lead into a mass riot.

And further, these people love to create a scene. It's their agenda. They don't understand that they are the aggressors, they see it as them peeling back the onion of "how these people really are".
 
What I'm wondering is where are all those freedom dudes that open carry protest and resist any sort of gun regulation because they are afraid the police/government will take over are?

Considering the average person described above, I imagine they are on the cops side right? Which makes them fucking hypocrites.
The true government takeover will be once the blacks take revenge with Civil War 2 and Obama makes it illegal for straight white Christians to eat hamburgers

This is just our proud men in uniform teaching discipline to those who don't take responsibility for their lives. Like how it's okay to ask anyone darker than a paper bag to produce their papers on command for police for no reason because that's keeping the Horde at bay, but saying we can't dump toxic waste in our lakes quite as much is literally Stalin
 
Tonight sounds like it got real bad by all parties involved. There are so many aspects to this tragedy that just seem to be bubbling over... I'm not sure what will happen, to be honest. It's too complicated to just stop at this point. It's evolved too far.

Not all parties. The peaceful protesters are stuck between violent disruptive shits and the police who think the problem is solved keeping them under lock and key.
 
After having so much coverage on this stuff, only to be left here now without ANY access to what's going on outside of twitter....is a terrible feeling.

I've only a small idea of what's happening now, but I fully believe the reports of them rolling around randomly tear gassing people. This disgust me. Sent all the press to "Media Zones" and are just going all in right now. Pure revenge on their behalf.

I think that the people shooting are terrible and holding the entire movement back...but the cops are making it extremely hard not to emphasize with them right now. Their neighborhoods are under siege.

All of this to protect a fucking murderer.
 
Not all parties. The peaceful protesters are stuck between violent disruptive shits and the police who think the problem is solved keeping them under lock and key.
You're right. I was grouping all protesters when I shouldn't have been. The vast majority seem to be peaceful. That being said... this is really, really bad. It's getting worse.
 
Those people hiding in the bushes are likely hiding from teargas and rubber bullets already. Why not just leave them be? Someone hiding in a bush isn't a threat.

simply asking someone about why they're in a bush or - not making a situation where people feel like they need to hide in a bush should be their job. that's what i was trying to get at. instead they treat every single goddamn person like a threat.
 
What do you mean? I hadn't really been following his Tweets

He was really giving the story of the protesters' struggles before tonight. Now he seems to be glossing over all the bad stuff and trying to make it seem as if things went well tonight. He's focused more on the agitators, which is good, but forgetting about the police actions, like them basically gassing whoever was in that neighborhood, even if they were running away.

You're one of those "racism is quantum locked" people, noted.

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What I'm wondering is where are all those freedom dudes that open carry protest and resist any sort of gun regulation because they are afraid the police/government will take over are?

Considering the average person described above, I imagine they are on the cops side right? Which makes them fucking hypocrites.

A lot of those same people who were all in on the Bundy Ranch incident and claim to hate big government/police will character assassinate and make excuses for the police as soon as it's a black person. They will try to justify the actions of the police in any way possible because they're racist assholes who dehumanize minorities and think it's always the minorities who provoke things and deserve to be shot or brutalized. See, these people place a low value on their lives so they really don't care what happens. Hell, I bet a lot of these people are watching the streams hoping to see some "dead niggers." It's absolutely disgusting. Fuck those people.
 
The true government takeover will be once the blacks take revenge with Civil War 2 and Obama makes it illegal for straight white Christians to eat hamburgers

This is just our proud men in uniform teaching discipline to those who don't take responsibility for their lives. Like how it's okay to ask anyone darker than a paper bag to produce their papers on command for police for no reason because that's keeping the Horde at bay
Nah man, they hate the police. Just checked their sites and All their reporters and conspiracy people are at ferguson reporting on the Police State and Racist Blacks Rioting. Hell, we had people linking here to the Alex Jones live stream a few days ago.

If anything they are blaming this on Obama and how he supposedly is encouraging black people to do this and take our guns away that way.
 
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