Secret Fawful
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Donald why are you such a racist piece of shit? I call for the jailing of Officer Donald.
Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds
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Donald why are you such a racist piece of shit? I call for the jailing of Officer Donald.
No, he really doesn't. And that's what federal government is supposed to do - take a backseat. They are conducting their own investigation into whether or not there is a civil rights violation, but that would be the extent of their jurisdiction. Everything else is the domain of the state, including policing/providing security.
While this entire this is pretty crazy, I don't think the feds need to get involved yet.
This shit can be quelched instantly by the local municipality. They just need to show culpability.
It's different from a situation where the city/county/state has said "oh no, nothing went wrong".
This isn't to justify the bullshit situation, but we need to recognize the actual situation.
NihonTiger90
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We don't deserve the right to tell other nations what to do when we are as bad as they are.
How exactly? And if he did pay why would the store owner come rushing out from behind the counter? Not to mention it overlooks him pushing the store owner and then turning around and coming back at him. I think people are reaching to suggest otherwise.
They aren't capable of culpability. They are arresting journalists. Why these guys continue to get a pass as if they are going to come to their senses is ridiculous.
Yea, I know.
It's mostly my hypotheticals, and maybe having these intentions go out there.
I know people don't believe that internet vocalism does anything, but I'm trying.
Because the store owner misunderstood the situation?
"I paid you. Now get the fuck off of me" wouldn't seem out of the ordinary here.
One thing that would really help the situation is if the police stopped overreacting and doing almost-comical like stuff. Blaring the LRAD and simultaneously shouting instructions because a small minority of people are trying to take advantage of the situation is not helping anyone. It's just spreading disorder and unrest among the peaceful protesters who make up the vast majority. To say nothing of firing tear gas and smoke grenades at people. And then there's targeting and detaining/arresting journalists, who should be your biggest allies but instead are becoming your greatest enemy.
They're like a parent who has five children, and one of their kids steals a cookie from the cookie jar. But all of them were in the kitchen, so they punish all five of them for the actions of one. Just doesn't make sense.
You can say that again. I'm waiting for the fallout from the one-two combo of arresting Journalists and shooing out Amnesty.
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I've had a few misunderstands with store clerks before that ended up with the clerk getting very miffed about the situation.
Now, nothing where the clerk would come out from behind the counter obviously.
See, the thing is, based on video evidence in the store we don't know if Brown did anything wrong. Someone called in what they thought was a robbery, on tape it looks like he nabbed em, but who the fuck knows because Brown was shot dead before anyone could investigate.
It doesn't. And it's been successfully used to bring into question the kid shot 6 times and once in the head, as clearly he is the type of person that tries to fight a cop and take his gun.
Nabs
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The protests will do nothing to help that.
If you think the Brown family weren't going to have their own autopsy performed regardless of riots you aren't thinking realistically.
The FBI was already talking about having their own autopsy just days later. The federal government was already getting involved.
The Governor of Missouri has also been involved for almost a week himself, and he's generally actually not a dick. He won't tie himself to a butchered investigation with no indictment if the evidence even hints at something else.
The state Attorney General Koster is a piece of shit but he is a democrat running for Governor soon behind Nixon. He needs STL and KC if he has any chance, he's going to sink into this like a dog on a fresh ham bone as soon as he gets a crack at it. This will be an election making event for him.
What evidence is there will be combed over riots or no riots. The story that evidence paints will be evaluated the same way and the same verdict will be reached on Wilson as long as there isn't some new wild card thrown in the mix.
All that these riots are doing is obfuscating the real story here with a he said/he said cops v. rioters stories about who's really perpetrating violence and muddying the waters about Brown basically being publicly executed for being a big black kid who didn't suck police cock.
Also, it's 100% guaranteeing that the people of Ferguson aren't going to sit in judgement of Wilson. You want to see Wilson get off? Keep rioting and see them hold the trial across the MO river in St. Charles where it's all middle class white families who are deathly afraid of the city.
You want to see Wilson legitimately have a crack at life without parole or the death penalty (which Missouri still has and he likely deserves given the early findings of the family's autopsy)? Try him in the over 2/3rds black neighborhood where he committed the damn crime.
We're to the point where continued riots in Ferguson are unproductive. Chill it out, let Wilson get his justice and establish legitimate long-term non-violent protests throughout the metro area. Stage a march in East St. Louis where a city that once had a population of 80,000 is now below 30,000 due to white flight and is one of the hardest places to grow up in the entire country. Rally in front of the STL City court house for passing decriminalization of weed in city limits based on police discretion (the arresting officer can choose to file you on the city or state docket, city is misdemeanor, state is felony. It's basically whites to the city docket, blacks to the state).
I could go on. There are ample places and causes where those looking for change in St. Louis can begin a legitimate second push for equality. The stage is set for true change, but true change happens by being smarter than the oppressors, not just louder.
Come on now. Everytime I go to 7-11 and buy a slurpee the owner comes after me after I pay too. With how quickly he grabbed and then left how in the fuck would he have known how much he owed or the store owner for that matter.
The shop-owner said nothing happened that he felt was important or illegal so it's really not important anymore. It all started from a misunderstanding by a customer. We don't know the reason for what is happening in the video but it doesn't matter. Nothing important happened and it's not related anyways.
Corronchilejano
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The footage was still released even though police know it has nothing to do with the situation and the store already wants to step away from the issue, making clear that they didn't report anything and instead it was a customer who made the call to 911.
So, other than any reports the police got from the store directly, we may never know exactly what's goin in that footage, which is somehow spinned in favor of the murderous cop.
Zoe
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Things like that only matter when you're elected.
nah you can live and work in different cities. most of the cops my mom works with live in dallas but wouldn't work there if their lives depended on it.
Yesterday, when it happened.
LOL.
gutter_trash
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Furgesson is a failed town, Missouri is a failed State. IMO, the FBI should take over
Bluekaveli
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So yesterday after the family had their conference, what happened? How did people react?
Why can you take a guess at what happened but I can't?
Just for the record, this is downtown STL, not Ferguson.
Eyemus Lutt
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Am I the only sane person who thinks the cop is not guilty of anything serious here, The dude just finished robbing a place and was probably on edge and paranoid when stopped by the cop.
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Why? Isn't it usually peaceful protests by day and criminal looting by night?
Bluekaveli
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Did you mean to post this on August 9th?
He took a pack of cigars. It's not like he was on a violent crime spree ready to kill anyone who came into his path.
EdibleKnife
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He robbed a place of cigarettes that cost as much as the change in my couch. Maybe it's just me but that doesn't seem like a level of paranoia that causes one to run at a police officer unarmed.
Ok, and how does that end up with an unarmed man dead?
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
It was only a matter of time in the modern social media age until the magnifying glass was turned from war-torn middle east and such-forth to the decaying America thats been left to rot in many ways for decades.
Arresting journalists, shooing out Amnesty -- this is the level of fictional pecking order places like Ferguson are run under where police power has taken on a life of its own. Its pretty bizarre to watch for the rest of the western world really, especially here in the UK.
Gonna be interesting to see whats gonna be done about this whole situation. You'd think nation wide stricter police employment directives would go out, but I imagine most are just hoping this will settle down and go away. Then something similar will happen in another state, and away we go.
Arresting journalists, shooing out Amnesty -- this is the level of fictional pecking order places like Ferguson are run under where police power has taken on a life of its own. Its pretty bizarre to watch for the rest of the western world really, especially here in the UK.
Gonna be interesting to see whats gonna be done about this whole situation. You'd think nation wide stricter police employment directives would go out, but I imagine most are just hoping this will settle down and go away. Then something similar will happen in another state, and away we go.
Shooting an unarmed teenager who is surrendering to you with his hands in the air is nothing serious?
Are you serious?
Eyemus Lutt
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He robbed a place and just ran into a cop. He probably though they knew about it.
There are quite a few images of Molotovs from Ferguson around if you look hard enough. During riots things happen.
This one though takes the cake and shows how eager some are to spin this thing one way or another. I have no idea who or what Breitbart is btw.
Jesus, wake up to these images I thought didn't exist.
Nabs
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BINGO.
and I don't mean that in agreement, I just cleared my board. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I'm still playing.
Anything serious here. The life of a young man was stolen from him and that's alright because he stole a pack of cigars.
More_Badass
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You're talking about Brown's actions here. You said you think the cop "is not guilty of anything serious here"
Why do you think the cop's action are not serious?
Saying his "robbed a place" is kind of inflammatory, when people hear "robbed a place" they think masked men and guns.
EdibleKnife
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So instead of running, he decides to attack the armed officer supposedly aware of his crimes right?
MidgarBlowedUp
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Go read up on what has happened, there are time line links on the first page. That should hopefully, put you in the right frame of mind. Take it all in, then come back and post.
I can believe that's possible. But I won't believe he thought the best course of action, being a minute in front of his own home, after being told to stay on the sidewalk (and not anything that would indicate the cop knew about his robbery), and committing what he probably did not realize was a felony, was to grab the officer's gun. I also don't believe he charged at the officer while he was being shot at. I don't believe that 6 witnesses are all saying the same story and yet I'm supposed to take the word of the one guy that has a reason to lie.
Does no one agree that with all the additional people in ferguson a greater strain is put on the city and state to maintain order?
People have the right to protest and report, but there must be hundreds if not a few thousand extra people in town now.
Then you've got the wrong element mixing in. Whether its looters or anarchists or whatever there have been flare ups every night. It must be ridiculously difficult to pick them put of the crowd in the middle of the night.
So now, besides protecting the people of Ferguson, the police and national guard have to worry about protecting all the media, protesters, and organizations from around the world that have gathered there.
Obviously the authorities haven't handled the situation well at all, but things are so out of control I doubt anyone there has any proper experience on what direction to take.
Shits crazy man.
People have the right to protest and report, but there must be hundreds if not a few thousand extra people in town now.
Then you've got the wrong element mixing in. Whether its looters or anarchists or whatever there have been flare ups every night. It must be ridiculously difficult to pick them put of the crowd in the middle of the night.
So now, besides protecting the people of Ferguson, the police and national guard have to worry about protecting all the media, protesters, and organizations from around the world that have gathered there.
Obviously the authorities haven't handled the situation well at all, but things are so out of control I doubt anyone there has any proper experience on what direction to take.
Shits crazy man.
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