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[BronsonLee]

Where is Westboro?

It doesn't matter, they'll travel if need be. If they go to that funeral though, they'll probably be met with one of the splinter groups (Patriot Riders, etc) that show up to prevent them from picketing.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Well, no. You were just not understanding what was being discussed. The people you were replying to in the post I quoted were complaining about a lack of "refereeing" and about CNN presenting all opinions as "equally valid". Nothing about how good journalists leave their audience totally ignorant that there are people who are on one particular side or that they should not give their audience an idea of what those people are arguing.

On Ferguson in particular, it's pretty easy to gather the stories of "both sides" in this thread. Maddow on MSNBC, cable-wise, has been pretty good (she usually is) about not pretending that there aren't people on the other side even as she tries to put what's going on in context and tries to sort out what's actually happening. IIRC there was a Vox link a while back that seemed to do a good job of laying out how sure we could be of various claims (at the time).

The original quote is on the previous page.

And I can see the issue you're talking about, however, I'd rather they talk about it than not discuss it at all. You're right though, it would be better if they were more critical of the info they are getting.

And I tried to watch Maddow at the beginning of this and IMO she injects too much personal feeling and opinion into her stuff. She doesn't even seem to try to be objective.

That's not what was said at all. He suggested that CNN isn't a good news organizations because it spends too much time forcing a false balance by presenting both sides "for stories where it shouldn't." You're projecting and everyone is following you down the rabbit hole.

And in this case, it should be.

 

[Gorillaz]

Really hope there aren't any troublemakers out there so his family can at least lay him down peacefully.

I expect we'll soon get reports of asshole groups showing up to protest.

Without a doubt some true fuckery will happen there

 

[Nabs]

Another stream from Canfield Drive: http://m.ustream.tv/channel/filmthepoliceportland

He's not really doing anything right now.

 

[ab.aeterno]

Last I checked this isn't a climate change thread, or a bestiality thread.

...they're illustrative examples of the folly of arguing that we need to hear both sides as though both sides are equivalent or worthy of hearing, to show why your argument is poor. That you missed this so many times is blowing my mind.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

...they're illustrative examples of the folly of arguing that we need to hear both sides as though both sides are equivalent or worthy of hearing, to show why your argument is poor. That you missed this so many times is blowing my mind.

The point is, in this case, both sides are relevant.

 

[Nappuccino]

The point is, in this case, both sides are relevant.

They're only both relevant until facts negate one.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

They're only both relevant until facts negate one.

And they haven't yet, so again, both sides are relevant.

 

[Timedog]

...they're illustrative examples of the folly of arguing that we need to hear both sides as though both sides are equivalent or worthy of hearing, to show why your argument is poor. That you missed this so many times is blowing my mind.

I don't think those are good analogies because we already know the truth about bestiality and climate change. We don't know all the details here just yet. He should be arrested though.

 

[bgbball31]

I Am Mike Brown just came back up.

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

 

[Icanplaythat]

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

Good stream live.

EDIT: Well played, you win this round.

 

[link4117]

I love that video:

"I thought you were gonna be funny. Come on, John, be funny."
"I am not your monkey."

I just saw a clip of Don Lemon reporting on this and couldn't help but think of The Daily Show clip on him.

But man, why aren't the media themselves more up in arms about all the violations here? The Supreme Court struck ruled similar cases of media blackout and banning protests in certain areas. I'm having a hard time coming up with how the highway patrol and local police won't be up to their eyes in civil lawsuits.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

I Am Mike Brown just came back up.

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

The man being interviewed is dropping heat so far. Check it out if you're not watching already.

 

[ErasureAcer]

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

Good stream live.

EDIT: Well played, you win this round.

Dude speaking now laying down the truth bombs. Carl Dix: RCP.

 

[Nappuccino]

Awesome dude speaking on I am Mike Brown right now. Not sure how long he'll be up--Carl Dix

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Awesome dude speaking on I am Mike Brown right now. Not sure how long he'll be up--Carl Dix

From the RCP apparently.

 

[ab.aeterno]

I don't think those are good analogies because we already know the truth about bestiality and climate change. We don't know all the details here just yet. He should be arrested though.

I didn't say they were good examples, but they're pretty clearly just that -- examples. Which is why I am confused when someone continually asserts that this thread is not about discussing those subjects when no one was trying to, because they're examples being used in an argument.

 

[Nappuccino]

From the RCP apparently.

Haha yeah, but he seems pretty on point.

 

[Nanashrew]

Whoa what happened! Where did all that static come from?

 

[CrimsonCommie]

Whoa what happened! Where did all that static come from?

Had to silence the commie lol

 

[Malyse]

Pretty sure bestiality isn't what we are discussing, but thanks.

You comically missed the point.

 

[Nappuccino]

Whoa what happened! Where did all that static come from?

No idea, but it's still going for me.

 

[Icanplaythat]

Whoa what happened! Where did all that static come from?

Patented Ron Johnson jamming device.

 

[More_Badass]

Dude speaking now laying down the truth bombs. Carl Dix: RCP.

This Carl Dix?

Carl Dix is a founding member, and a representative, of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA.

 

[Icanplaythat]

Never mind, they cut away.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Haha yeah, but he seems pretty on point.

It sounded like I was trying to discredit him by just saying he was from the RCP, but he was really on point before the static.

 

[bgbball31]

Maybe I missed it, but on the http://m.ustream.tv/channel/feelinsofly stream just mentioned that the police were using an LRAD last night, so be brought out ear protection.

 

[Nappuccino]

Maybe I missed it, but on the http://m.ustream.tv/channel/feelinsofly stream just mentioned that the police were using an LRAD last night, so be brought out ear protection.

There were reports of it, but I didn't see anything official. Best to be prepared though.

(that kid looks so out of his depth on stream)

edit: Ab.aeterno seems to confirm it--good to know.

 

[Nabs]

Streams:

Panda Unite: http://m.ustream.tv/channel/feelinsofly
Film the Police Portland http://m.ustream.tv/channel/filmthepoliceportland
I am Mike Brown: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

 

[ab.aeterno]

Maybe I missed it, but on the http://m.ustream.tv/channel/feelinsofly stream just mentioned that the police were using an LRAD last night, so be brought out ear protection.

Yeah, at least twice IIRC from what I watched last night. That fucking thing is ear-splitting even over speakers, had to almost mute the streams I was watching.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Maybe I missed it, but on the http://m.ustream.tv/channel/feelinsofly stream just mentioned that the police were using an LRAD last night, so be brought out ear protection.

Wait till they bring out the microwave gun.


http://youtu.be/dmuyLIrSjxI

You comically missed the point.

Except, I didn't.

 

[CorvoSol]

There were reports of it, but I didn't see anything official. Best to be prepared though.

(that kid looks so out of his depth on stream)

Is the LRAD that giant screeching sound cannon? Because if so they were using it on the stream I saw.

 

[ErasureAcer]

I am Mike Brown feed host just said St. Louis man killed had a small or butter knife. Come on police...stop this shit.

 

[Nappuccino]

Is the LRAD that giant screeching sound cannon? Because if so they were using it on the stream I saw.

That'd be it then.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Yeah, LRAD was used several times yesterday. So freaking loud.. Can only imagine it's worse IRL.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

I am Mike Brown feed host just said St. Louis man killed had a small or butter knife. Come on police...stop this shit.

coulda gone on a stabbing spree u never know

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I am Mike Brown feed host just said St. Louis man killed had a small or butter knife. Come on police...stop this shit.

Ever seen what a small knife can do? Inmates regularly murder each other with tiny blades all the time. And they (cops) can't just assume th damned thing is dull or a butter knife.


Also, it's pretty much "obvious" by reports of what the dude was saying that he was trying to suicide by cop.

 

[Falk]

LRAD has nothing on cantonese people on the phone (my extended family)

 

[Punchy4486]

My issue is they struggle to report both sides on stories that shouldn't.

So, you don't want both sides?

You're saying you didn't miss the point.

Our point was explaining why they don't like CNN. Because they aren't out to report the truth, they just want to appease viewers of any belief.

You're trying to make it about this, because of the thread, but we were explaining why it can be and has been a problem.

DreamDrop doesn't like them for that reason, so they don't watch CNN at all. That's it. DreamDrop doesn't respect their ethos, so they won't watch CNN for this reason.

But this is off-topic, so let's drop it.

 

[Icanplaythat]

Stream update:
Credit to Nabs for new links

https://news.vice.com/article/live-from-ferguson-missouri (Tim/Vice-no comment section) Not currently live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmqHVKNZkhM (Tim/Vice via YouTube-same as above) Not currently live.
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930 (I am Mike Brown Live from Ferguson, MO)
http://m.ustream.tv/channel/feelinsofly (Panda Unite)
http://m.ustream.tv/channel/filmthepoliceportland (Film the Police)
CNN
MSNBC
KDSK local Must disable adblocker. Not currently live.
KTVI local
FOXNEWS

More as they come.

If the CNN or MSNBC stream goes out for you on livenewschat.eu, don't refresh, go back to the previous page. After like an hour or two that site sends you to a new page, just go back. If you refresh and don’t go back, you will be refreshing the wrong page, be aware of the url.

 

[Lime]

shop owner who got his place torched

 

[Nabs]

The performance on Film The Police was great. This is the kind of stuff we missed by not having more daytime streams.

 

[CrankyJay]

Interesting segment on msnbc now. Bob McCullough's father was a cop who was killed by a black man. Local residents want him to recuse himself.

 

[slit]

Interesting segment on msnbc now. Bob McCullough's father was a cop who was killed by a black man. Local residents want him to recuse himself.

Yeah that's been known for some time now. I have a feeling if he goes, it won't be quietly.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Interesting segment on msnbc now. Bob McCullough's father was a cop who was killed by a black man. Local residents want him to recuse himself.

In all honesty he should and it's baffling that he's not saying he will.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

shop owner who got his place torched

Powerful, powerful message that will be willfully ignored by the people who need to read it most.

 

[TheAbsolution]

Streams:

Panda Unite: http://m.ustream.tv/channel/feelinsofly
Film the Police Portland http://m.ustream.tv/channel/filmthepoliceportland
I am Mike Brown: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

I know that it's probably been said many times but thanks for keeping up with the streams and reposting as neccesary. Doing good work, man. Keep it up.

 

[captive]

shop owner who got his place torched

Is this confirmed?

 

[FamousLastX]

shop owner who got his place torched

Simply incredible, thank you for sharing. Seems heartfelt and articulated very well.

 

[MHWilliams]

Is this confirmed?

Still looking for confirmation myself.