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[Random Painted HIghway]

Guess we have to hope Wilson is at least a fucking ham sandwich then, because if a grand jury doesn't indict then it must have been a really poor job of prosecution. Don't grand juries have a much lower bar to clear for true bill given they are only moving a case to court, not handing down a verdict?

They just look for probable cause, not beyond a reasonable doubt. That is a very low bar. That said you definitely can go in and tank a case as a prosecutor, If you outright tell them that or they ink you're being dishonest with them, they can fuck you and issue the indictment. Of course, who is on the grand jury? Retirees, former law enforcement, friends of the judge. It's a weird system at times. They can take on a life of their own if they want and think they are being used as a tool to cover up for someone. I've seen that happen in my local county. I don't have a lot of faith in the gj not doing exactly what the prosecutor wants them to do, unfortunately.

 

[BronsonLee]

How much are they?

Tim's gotten a lot of recognition for using it in the past. I remember him using it during the Brooklyn protests last year.

You usually can't buy them. They're rentable, though. I remember Livestream would do it. It's called the LiveU Backpack. If I had to put a price on it...30 grand? I believe that's what it was, I'd have to check.

If so, those things are really cool.
They take the 4 wireless networks and put them all together get a stream going.

Yeah, it's really neat. They make stuff now that is just the network bonder, and you can use it on anything that takes USB (like a Tricaster/streaming computer, for example). Those are like 10 grand.

Fake Edit: Top of the page again! I'm real good at this, so I'll add one more.

Under what legal theory could a president make a governor resign? He's not a king

None. But he can absolutely apply pressure/call for him to resign.

 

[Effect]

How has tonight been? Big crowd? Cops seemingly trying to provoke things again?

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

How has tonight been?

Calm.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

How has tonight been?

Uneventful when it comes to chaos though shots were fired somewhere someone said.

Just good ol chanting and marching.

 

[Sophia]

How has tonight been?

Amazingly calm. Let us hope it stays that way.

 

[TheAbsolution]

Bitrate sure does suck though.

That's the main problem. That and latency.
I think Twit used it one year during CES and because of all the traffic it was chugging like crazy.

 

[HerbertFish]

How has tonight been? Big crowd? Cops seemingly trying to provoke things again?

just 1 arrest so far and nothing big. good so far.

 

[Volimar]

I'm really interested in the monetary cost of all of this, both to the police and the city/county.

 

[Random Painted HIghway]

Correct. The purpose of the Grand Jury is to determine if there is probable cause which is substantially lower than the reasonable doubt standard. The poster you are responding to is as incredulous as I am (and also appears to be an attorney) that the prosecutor appears so unsure that there is even probable cause in this case.

I don't know how you can try hiding behind a grand jury to do your dirty work in a case like this. It is just very distasteful to me. I don't want to be a hypocrite here, because I've considered the option myself before deciding otherwise, but I think here will need to be a very clear explanation issued on why that was the result. And it is hard for me to see a report satisfying 75% of the folks who are upset.

 

[Crosseyes]

Things look much calmer tonight. Police just keeping a minimal side presence than a huge show of force. Lets hope they stay that way even as it gets late tonight. Things could just get worse depending how any further developments in the case go tomorrow.

 

[TheAbsolution]

How has tonight been? Big crowd? Cops seemingly trying to provoke things again?

Calm and peaceful.


Also Godamnit Fox News. I wanted Shepherd Smith to host all of the coverage. I'm not a huge fan of Megyn Kelly TBH.

 

[jamesinclair]

I'm really interested in the monetary cost of all of this, both to the police and the city/county.

Be lovely if the city has to fire all their cops due to lack of money

 

[jett]

I wonder what is the cop going to get charged with. I doubt he'll even get second degree murder in that town.

 

[Sophia]

Something is happening now. Police are pushing people to the sidewalks. I hope it doesn't escalate.

 

[HerbertFish]

I don't know how you can try hiding behind a grand jury to do your dirty work in a case like this. It is just very distasteful to me. I don't want to be a hypocrite here, because I've considered the option myself before deciding otherwise, but I think here will need to be a very clear explanation issued on why that was the result. And it is hard for me to see a report satisfying 75% of the folks who are upset.

so the prosecutor has full control over the evidence.

 

[malfcn]

How long will this peace last. Not with this line pushing everyone out.

 

[FamousLastX]

Police starting to form a line and force people out of a parking lot and onto the sidewalk and to keep moving. Hoping nothing serious comes from it, but it's definitely raising tensions with some of the protesters.

 

[BronsonLee]

so the prosecutor has full control over the evidence.

He's the one presenting it all, of course he does.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

What's a trap???

 

[EatinOlives]

And just like that, the police are agitating people.

Kudos to the guy keeping the protest going and yelling "it's a trap". That's exactly what it is.

What's a trap???

Police came in and started getting people out of the parking lot for no reason.

 

[Volimar]

Geez, they were calm, what's the point of this?

 

[Mully]

Looks like the older protesters are doing a good job of keeping the crowd unified in these riled up situations.

 

[Gorillaz]

"no entertainment for TV tonight"

smart, the police are really just wanting shit to pop off and want to ride that high...just keep moving

 

[HerbertFish]

He's the one presenting it all, of course he does.

Thats what I was saying

 

[malfcn]

Geez, they were calm, what's the point of this?

Gotta get people mad so they can be demonized.

.......and Tim asking for water.

 

[Sophia]

Tim didn't bring water, oh man. XD

 

[FamousLastX]

Tim asked for water, there's a surprise.

 

[mre]

11:07: Tim first asks if anyone has water to drink.

 

[EatinOlives]

looooooool

Tim: "You don't have water, do you?"

 

[CrimsonCrescendo]

Edit: I'm keeping this post. I don't mean to sound irreverent, but if this is honestly what they are going with, it's a goddamn joke.



So let me see if I got this straight:



He, contrary to eyewitness reports, provokes the cop by slamming a door shut in the cops face.

He then, by their own words, "MMA Superman Punches at the cop through a window"

He goes after the cop's gun and after being shot, he then runs the fuck away.

Guy, while shot and bleeding on top of running for a prolonged period of time, starts smack talking the guy who shot him.

He then charges fuckin' Wolverine style headlong into someone with a gun from over 30 feet away. Despite the blood loss he must have suffered by this point.

And all of this, of course, flies in the face of all eyewitness testimonies.



There is no way in fuck this is what they are going with. I refuse to believe that a prosecutor would actually bring that before a Grand Jury when not only are the FBI, DOJ, and the current administration watching... but with the whole world watching.

 

[Zero-Crescent]

Geez, they were calm, what's the point of this?

Indeed. Seems like a pointless power gesture.

 

[ReignofSparrows]

I don't know how you can try hiding behind a grand jury to do your dirty work in a case like this. It is just very distasteful to me. I don't want to be a hypocrite here, because I've considered the option myself before deciding otherwise, but I think here will need to be a very clear explanation issued on why that was the result. And it is hard for me to see a report satisfying 75% of the folks who are upset.

Agreed. With a case this public, it certainly seems distasteful, but I cynically think that the prosecutor wants to simultaneously tank while shirking responsibility. At least that's what I gather based on the tweets, which may or may not be accurate.

I should add that I am skeptical of the tweets. I mean, they are basically one step removed from the prosecutor stating, "I am going to present evidence that Brown posed an immediate danger to the officer and to others. What's that? No PC? My work here is done." You don't take the defense's best hypothetical set of facts and treat them as your own. It just sounds too far-fetched, but who fucking knows in this system anymore.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Oh Tim.. I like you, but when will you learn?

 

[ab.aeterno]

Correct. The purpose of the Grand Jury is to determine if there is probable cause which is substantially lower than the reasonable doubt standard. The poster you are responding to is as incredulous as I am (and also appears to be an attorney) that the prosecutor appears so unsure that there is even probable cause in this case.

They just look for probable cause, not beyond a reasonable doubt. That is a very low bar. That said you definitely can go in and tank a case as a prosecutor, If you outright tell them that or they ink you're being dishonest with them, they can fuck you and issue the indictment. Of course, who is on the grand jury? Retirees, former law enforcement, friends of the judge. It's a weird system at times. They can take on a life of their own if they want and think they are being used as a tool to cover up for someone. I've seen that happen in my local county. I don't have a lot of faith in the gj not doing exactly what the prosecutor wants them to do, unfortunately.

Thanks for the replies, appreciate it.

 

[EatinOlives]

I like this lady telling people to get on the side. Don't want to give the police any reason to act the way they did yesterday.

 

[Mully]

Looks like they've got Peacekeepers with identifiable shirts now to keep crowd from getting agitated.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Tim just got told.

 

[Talyn]

Looks like they've got Peacekeepers with identifiable shirts now to keep crowd from getting agitated.

Now if only they could keep the cops from getting agitated and starting shit.

 

[TheAbsolution]

Tim getting told right now.

 

[EatinOlives]

PEACE TRAAAAAIN!!

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

CHOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Fucking awesome.

 

[FiggyCal]

Tim just got told.

What happened?

 

[everyday math]

So let me see if I got this straight:



He, contrary to eyewitness reports, provokes the cop by slamming a door shut in the cops face.

He then, by their own words, "MMA Superman Punches at the cop through a window"

He goes after the cop's gun and after being shot, he then runs the fuck away.

Guy, while shot and bleeding on top of running for a prolonged period of time, starts smack talking the guy who shot him.

He then charges fuckin' Wolverine style headlong into someone with a gun from over 30 feet away. Despite the blood loss he must have suffered by this point.

There is no way in fuck this is what they are going with. I refuse to believe that a prosecutor would actually bring that before a Grand Jury when not only are the FBI, DOJ, and the current administration watching... but with the whole world watching.

He should use this post. Lol

 

[Sophia]

PEACE TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN~! XD

 

[Albino_Samurai]

Marvin Gaye to bring the message

 

[El Odio]

Tim should just start salvaging the water bottles the protesters throw at this point.

 

[everyday math]

Link to Tim's stream?

 

[Kettch]

What happened?

He was walking in the middle of the street.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Link to Tim's stream?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24e6RfL_jbg