Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 12: Gwah, hah. Welcome to the Bowser's game.

Thread is moving too fast. What is this leak? Why do some people think it's real? Are there more than one leak? Why is it being considered fake. I have too many questions!
 
EDIT - Second look. Those are nothing alike, sans positioning. Foot in mouth.

Yeah, that came up last night and was dropped immediately.

I don't think anyone needs to go out of their way to find evidence or whatever, if this is fake it'll disprove itself pretty quickly just via POTD updates.
 
I would think, most likely, that whoever made it would do all the photoshopping to the image first, then put it on a screen, then take a picture of that with a camera or phone or early 1990's webcam and then share the final photograph unedited.

I know and already considered this.
What makes it interesting is that they even deleted the camera's info. There's literally no info but the usual stuff you see in Windows explorer.
 
But why Duck Hunt? Other than the fact that people on sites like GameFAQs and 4chan have jokingly suggested the dog, it seems like such a random choice. The game was never popular in Japan, and I'm not sure what exactly this character is supposed to represent. The NES launch lineup? That's what the Ice Climbers are for, and apparently they got cut because... nobody knows why, even though they already have content in Smash Run. Do you honestly expect me to believe that the Ice Climbers were cut due to time constraints, and yet they had enough time to add Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and 7 Koopaling alts? People originally thought that the Ice Climbers would get cut over some mistranslated Sakurai quote, fearing that the 3DS wasn't powerful enough to handle them. And yet the addition of Rosalina and Luma completely debunks that. I'm fully behind IntelliHeath's theory.

Duck Hunt was one of the original games bundled with the NES and people have asked for him since Melee, that's enough of a reason for his inclusion.

Ice Climbers might have been lower on the priority list than the Koopa Kids character and Dr. Mario and Dark Pit will have started out as alternate costumes but moved to character slots, that doesn't require the same amount of effort as a new character.


And no, R&L and doesn't debunk Ice Climbers being too much, it debunks the fact that the 3DS might no be able to handle the polycount on the models, but the AI for Nana is still more advanced than Luma's is, it's like having 4 players and 4 level 3 CPU's on screen at the same time, whereas Luma just floats around sporadically.
 
It doesn't even have to be a character reveal to disconfirm(?) this leak.
Yeah any non-returning stage will do, because even if it's on the list, it may look different.

That or showing a different menu, confirming something from what is shown is a Wii U exclusive (stage etc.) and I'm sure there's more. We'll probably have something to confirm by the end of next week.
 
Seriously, you should calm down.

Is this your way of defending fakes? The other person who disagrees with me must not be calm?

Do you really think these silly internet arguing tactics are new to everyone, or something?

EDIT - Just noticed Dark Pit's icon is just a flipped version of regular ol' Pit's.

LMFAO
 
I was really hoping there would be definitive evidence of this being real or fake by now. With Smashboard mods now backing this, my faith in #teamfake is at an all time high
:P
 
I was really hoping there would be definitive evidence of this being real or fake by now. With Smashboard mods now backing this, my faith in #teamfake is at an all time high
:P
Why would mods from a site like that back a leak with no official credibility? Seems like a dangerous thing to do for your reputation.
 
Is this your way of defending fakes? The other person who disagrees with me must not be calm?

Do you really think these silly internet arguing tactics are new to everyone, or something?
You're rambling like a lunatic, I think taking a deep breath would help you to better relate your arguments for this picture being fake.

And Dark Pits picture isn't the same as Pit's it's completely different if you actually look at it. You're making the exact same mistake you just made with Dr. Mario. Next you're going to show the Jigglypuff picture.
 
You're rambling like a lunatic, I think taking a deep breath would help you to better relate your arguments for this picture being fake

Please stop with that nonsense.

And Dark Pits picture isn't the same as Pit's it's completely different if you actually look at it. You're making the exact same mistake you just made with Dr. Mario. Next you're going to show the Jigglypuff picture.

It is. Tools like Photoshop allow you to make alterations to things like hair. The reef placement, and chin's appear to be identical however.
 
Please stop with that nonsense.

It is. Tools like Photoshop allow you to make alterations to things like hair. The reef placement, and chin's appear to be identical however.
They aren't identical though, that's the problem. Are you arguing that Dark Pit has a similar looking face to Pit? Because... Of course he does.
 
Duck Hunt was one of the original games bundled with the NES and people have asked for him since Melee, that's enough of a reason for his inclusion.

Who are these people? All five of them? The amount of bandwagoning going on in the Smash community is embarrassing. As soon as one characters gets rumored, everybody starts putting it on their hypothetical roster even if nobody suggested it beforehand. Nobody gave a shit about the Duck Hunt Dog until the Ninka leak. Nobody gave a shit about the Chorus Kids until the second Gematsu leak. All of these "leaks" just keep piggybacking off of each other for attention, yet I'm still waiting for concrete proof. Maybe if this was posted before the Meta Knight reveal.
 
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Why are there two spaces between "any" and "button"? And did we decide anything on the one thick black line?
 
Why are there two spaces between "any" and "button"? And did we decide anything on the one thick black line?

There are videos that show the thick black line thing can be reproduced on the 3DS demo version from E3/etc. It happens when a NPC is being highlighted/selected. So, crazy amounts of attention or simply coincidence if the leak is fake.
 
Yoshi's first appearance is Super Mario World, which has Mario in it. Yoshi's Story has Bowser, Wooly World has Pirahna Plants. Wario is based off of his WarioWare series, which is very separate from Mario, like DKC.

Again what YOU think about Yoshi's games and their relation to Mario's doesn't matter. It's what the Smash Bros. series defines them as. And they define Yoshi as a unique series from Mario, with its own trophy category in Brawl, it's own stages, it's own music, and it's own logo.

Even on the character selects Yoshi has never been directly paired up with Mario's stuff ever since Smash 64. To illustrate:
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Red = Mario characters
Blue = Characters from the extended Mario universe (Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Wario).
 
Who are these people? All five of them? The amount of bandwagoning going on in the Smash community is embarrassing. As soon as one characters gets rumored, everybody starts putting it on their hypothetical roster even if nobody suggested it beforehand. Nobody gave a shit about the Duck Hunt Dog until the Ninka leak. Nobody gave a shit about the Chorus Kids until the second Gematsu leak. All of these "leaks" just keep piggybacking off of each other for attention, yet I'm still waiting for concrete proof. Maybe if this was posted before the Meta Knight reveal.

There's no real concrete proof for or against the leak though.

Believe it or don't, it's not as if it matters, DHD is a good choice for a retro rep, I mean it's not my most wanted retro rep, probably my 2nd or 3rd, but it's a good choice.
 
Has this been posted? A big reason to go against the "leak" was that the P4 CPU line was too thick. Seen here:

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However, this same glitch happened in the demo! See the P3 CPU here at 8:10:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCykBrGxfRk&t=8m10s

I still don't really buy it because of the Yoshi placement, but that is a ridiculous attention to detail of this glitch (?) if it's fake.

edit: Ah, seems like it's been posted.
 
There are videos that show the thick black line thing can be reproduced on the 3DS demo version from E3/etc. It happens when a NPC is being highlighted/selected. So, crazy amounts of attention or simply coincidence if the leak is fake.

Wow. That's some insane detail.
 
There are videos that show the thick black line thing can be reproduced on the 3DS demo version from E3/etc. It happens when a NPC is being highlighted/selected. So, crazy amounts of attention or simply coincidence if the leak is fake.
Wow, thanks. I'm not sure what I believe anymore, but the extra space in Press Any Button is still bugging me.
 
Duck Hunt has sold 26millions units in USA (mostly because of the bundle). The number in Europe + Japan are really low (1mm combined), but still, Duck Hunt is quite familiar to many older americans.
 
I want to ask again, why do the NPCs in Leak 1 have colors? They should be gray like the demo.

Those aren't CPUs, we don't know what they are but they're meant to be something different, CPUs are shown further on in the image so I don't think if it was a faker he'd forget what he'd just done and then try to pass it off as real.


What is the concrete proof then?

Other than "Sakurai wouldn't do that", "This looks like edited official artwork even though there are plenty of differences", "Why doesn't this character who's never been shown to have fur have fur?".

Because none of them are "facts" that disprove it.
 
Those aren't CPUs, we don't know what they are but they're meant to be something different, CPUs are shown further on in the image so I don't think if it was a faker he'd forget what he'd just done and then try to pass it off as real.

So those are actual players named "LV. 3", "LV. 8" and "LV. 4".
 
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