Ferguson: Police Officer Kills 18yo Michael Brown; Protests/Riots Continue

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Pkm said:
Im guessing this will be pretty much the argument from the cop. Dont know much about guns but this guy broke it down pretty well.


http://m.thenewamerican.com/?url=ht...2hJ5j-_B5YzuR4Dp6Yc2XclhTCl29GOqA7y2AF9WvAmpT

Ex-Marine Gunner: Ferguson Shot Pattern Vindicates Officer Wilson
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Oh it's one of "those" sources again

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Missouri lt. gov.: We need ‘Anglo-American’ justice in Ferguson, not racial protests
Kinder said there was “no question” that race was playing a role in what was happening in Ferguson.

“We do not do justice in America in the streets though,” he argued. “We have legal processes that are set in motion, that are designed after centuries of Anglo-American jurisprudence tradition, they’re designed to protect the rights and liberties of everyone involved.”

“That includes the Brown family, for justice for them and for the community. It also includes the officer who has not yet been charged,” he added. “Our constitutional and our Bill of Rights protections have to be followed here, and we do not do justice in the streets.”

“That’s one of the great advances of Anglo-American civilization, is that that we do not have politicized trials. We let the justice system work it out.”
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I guess non-Anglo-American's just don't have the concept of a civilized justice system that Anglo-Americans do...

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding something about these statements because this seems absolutely insane for someone in his position to say. Anglo-american isn't even a dog whistle, I'm pretty sure it just straight up means white person. I would think that a statement like that would end any political career, but no one seems to care. Maybe there are just too many screwed up things going on for people to notice.
 
Oh god. Some of the peaceful protesters here in STL are now thinking that this whole event was setup to train the military on killing blacks and putting them into FEMA camps and are telling others to stop protesting.
 
thepotatoman said:
Missouri lt. gov.: We need ‘Anglo-American’ justice in Ferguson, not racial protests

I guess non-Anglo-American's just don't have the concept of a civilized justice system that Anglo-Americans do...

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding something about these statements because this seems absolutely insane for someone in his position to say. Anglo-american isn't even a dog whistle, I'm pretty sure it just straight up means white person. I would think that a statement like that would end any political career, but no one seems to care. Maybe there are just too many screwed up things going on for people to notice.
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It can mean a couple things.
American with English origins (We want English justice!)
American who speaks primarily English (We want American Justice!)
Common-law

It is still a stupid fucking thing to say
 
thepotatoman said:
Missouri lt. gov.: We need ‘Anglo-American’ justice in Ferguson, not racial protests

I guess non-Anglo-American's just don't have the concept of a civilized justice system that Anglo-Americans do...

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding something about these statements because this seems absolutely insane for someone in his position to say. Anglo-american isn't even a dog whistle, I'm pretty sure it just straight up means white person. I would think that a statement like that would end any political career, but no one seems to care. Maybe there are just too many screwed up things going on for people to notice.
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atleast he admited protests to do with race arent right.

god the MO Gov & lt Gov are proof democrats/gop arent any better when it comes to race relations
 
thepotatoman said:
Missouri lt. gov.: We need ‘Anglo-American’ justice in Ferguson, not racial protests

I guess non-Anglo-American's just don't have the concept of a civilized justice system that Anglo-Americans do...

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding something about these statements because this seems absolutely insane for someone in his position to say. Anglo-american isn't even a dog whistle, I'm pretty sure it just straight up means white person. I would think that a statement like that would end any political career, but no one seems to care. Maybe there are just too many screwed up things going on for people to notice.
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His kind need to grow older, become silent, and go away.
 
thepotatoman said:
Missouri lt. gov.: We need ‘Anglo-American’ justice in Ferguson, not racial protests

I guess non-Anglo-American's just don't have the concept of a civilized justice system that Anglo-Americans do...

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding something about these statements because this seems absolutely insane for someone in his position to say. Anglo-american isn't even a dog whistle, I'm pretty sure it just straight up means white person. I would think that a statement like that would end any political career, but no one seems to care. Maybe there are just too many screwed up things going on for people to notice.
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Anglo-American...that's another way of saying white, right?
 
thepotatoman said:
Missouri lt. gov.: We need ‘Anglo-American’ justice in Ferguson, not racial protests

I guess non-Anglo-American's just don't have the concept of a civilized justice system that Anglo-Americans do...

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding something about these statements because this seems absolutely insane for someone in his position to say. Anglo-american isn't even a dog whistle, I'm pretty sure it just straight up means white person. I would think that a statement like that would end any political career, but no one seems to care. Maybe there are just too many screwed up things going on for people to notice.
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the thing i find amusing is when white pundits go on and say "they have to trust the process" they have to trust the "justice process"

I'm sure some of them dont mean anything by it, but it speaks to ignorance. Why should minorities trust the process, what in the history of the united states says they should trust the process?
 
captive said:
the thing i find amusing is when white pundits go on and say "they have to trust the process" they have to trust the "justice process"

I'm sure some of them dont mean anything by it, but it speaks to ignorance. Why should minorities trust the process, what in the history of the united states says they should trust the process?
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OJ?
 
thepotatoman said:
Missouri lt. gov.: We need ‘Anglo-American’ justice in Ferguson, not racial protests

I guess non-Anglo-American's just don't have the concept of a civilized justice system that Anglo-Americans do...

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding something about these statements because this seems absolutely insane for someone in his position to say. Anglo-american isn't even a dog whistle, I'm pretty sure it just straight up means white person. I would think that a statement like that would end any political career, but no one seems to care. Maybe there are just too many screwed up things going on for people to notice.
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I want to say he's just referring to Common Law but it's been awhile since I've taken a law class.
 
@grasswire 21m
St. Ann, Missouri, police officer who pointed assault rifle at peaceful protester in #Ferguson relieved of duty and suspended indefinitely.
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now just to catch the rest of them
 
I guess non-Anglo-American's just don't have the concept of a civilized justice system that Anglo-Americans do...
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That's not what he's saying at all. The U.S. justice system is Anglo-American, based on English common law. That said, Peter Kinder is generally regarded as a massive twat. He gets passed around from job-to-job, guaranteed a position as long as the GOP maintains it's strength in most parts of Missouri. He'll never be governor, though, although he will keep trying until his dying breath.
 
Brawly Likes to Brawl said:
The sad thing is that I'm having trouble expressing shock here. This police department has practically been going down a list of scummy shit to do to the community.



I wish somebody recorded a clip of the Tim stream from Sunday where that lady shouted "THIS ISN'T FUCKING IRAQ!" when she was calling out some cops that were threatening to shoot journalists.
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It certainly isn't Iraq. Had we threatened to shoot a journalist or news crew there would have actually been consequence from our chain of command.

It is getting to the point where the police state spouting crazies don't need to make arguments that we're already there because the government is making it for them.
 
NewEraBlood said:
It certainly isn't Iraq. Had we threatened to shoot a journalist or news crew there would have actually been consequence from our chain of command.

It is getting to the point where the police state spouting crazies don't need to make arguments that we're already there because the government is making it for them.
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Police have been caught threatening to shoot journalists tho...Tim was one. Another guy pointed his gun at a group last night. Edit: he was suspended. Kudos to the police officials.

Certainly not even close to Iraq. But don't act like all of them have been angels.
 
Mr.Awesome said:
I want to say he's just referring to Common Law but it's been awhile since I've taken a law class.
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Pretty darn certain that's what he means by it.. but considering what's going on it's a poor choice of words.

He's an lawyer... and a republican.. and uses very poor word choices. Really, regardless of what he meant.. it was stupid to say it that way.
 
Christine said:
These protesters don't know that the shooting wasn't justified. Their acts of protest are therefore unfounded and illegitimate. Even if they aren't looting and vandalizing themselves, they're creating the environment that's allowing the disruption and crime to take place. We need to send a clear message that these disruptions of civil order will not be permitted.

If the protests aren't suppressed, America loses.
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Uhhh....... Please tell me this is benji's alt

Oh so it wasn't serious?
 
everyday math said:
Police have been caught threatening to shoot journalists tho...Tim was one. Another guy pointed his gun at a group last night.
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I think either I didn't convey what I was saying correctly or you misunderstood. I know the police threatened journalists, there is proof on Youtube. I'm saying the fact that apparently nothing is being done about it is disgusting.

CrimsonCommie said:
Uhhh....... Please tell me this is benji's alt
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We don't know that. It's funny that in all the links posted there isn't one to the video showing Brown intimidating the store owner or the fact that the cop had an orbital fracture. Rather or not the shooting was justified is up to a jury decide. What is NOT up for debate is the way police are mistreating citizens and trampling on the rights to assembly, speech, privacy, and freedom from unreasonable searches.
 
Apparently the audio of one of the cell phone videos I just saw on CNN has a conversation on it from two people there talking about how Brown ran away from Wilson but then ran back at him.
 
NewEraBlood said:
I think either I didn't convey what I was saying correctly or you misunderstood. I know the police threatened journalists, there is proof on Youtube. I'm saying the fact that apparently nothing is being done about it is disgusting.



We don't know that. It's funny that in all the links posted there isn't one to the video showing Brown intimidating the store owner or the fact that the cop had an orbital fracture. Rather or not the shooting was justified is up to a jury decide. What is NOT up for debate is the way police are mistreating citizens and trampling on the rights to assembly, speech, privacy, and freedom from unreasonable searches.
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Oh I apologize! :S
I mixed up your wording.
 
Can anyone bullet point the latest from last night till now? I am working 11 hour shifts today, Thursday, and Friday, so I'm going to be missing (and did miss, last night) most of night live streams due to sleep.
 
“We do not do justice in America in the streets though,” he argued. “We have legal processes that are set in motion, that are designed after centuries of Anglo-American tradition, they’re designed to protect the rights and liberties of everyone involved.”

“That’s one of the great advances of Anglo-American civilization, is that that we do not have politicized trials. We let the justice system work it out.”
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This is what I would expect any normal person to say if they wanted to express that same point. Anglo-American is a deliberate dog-whistle intended to distinguish between a proper white system of justice and non-white justice. He's a lawyer and people want to give him the benefit of the doubt on whether his wording was somehow "accidental"? Give me a break, it's ridiculous the lengths people will go to avoid reaching the obvious racial conclusion. People don't go around talking about spreading Anglo-American democracy or Anglo-American freedom.

Even if it was entirely subconscious, think about why he said "Anglo-American tradition" and not just "American tradition". His mindset and cultural context apparently comes from a place where that distinction is still somehow relevant and important.

Also the idea that we have fair or non-politicized or racialized trials is a joke, but that's for another time.
 
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