Nothing is ever completely safe, but hacking into multi verification is very hard to hack into. You have to be a pro to get into a lot of it if people secure shit properly. Unfortunately many people dont understand what "secure" means in today's world(its like people being confused why you would use mozilla over chrome). Hopefully this sends a strong message to other indie devs who have hit it big, secure your fucking shit.
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Polytron Hacked?
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Nothing is ever completely safe, but hacking into multi verification is very hard to hack into. You have to be a pro to get into a lot of it if people secure shit properly. Unfortunately many people dont understand what "secure" means in today's world(its like people being confused why you would use mozilla over chrome). Hopefully this sends a strong message to other indie devs who have hit it big, secure your fucking shit.
Yes, it was. He jokes about canceling it again every once in a while. There was never any realistic plan for it for years, as far as I am aware.
I think all the evidence you need to prove that their motivation wasn't about being pissed off is the fact that contained within the front page of the leak is either /v/ trolling /v/ trolling /v/, or someone else trolling /v/, or some variation of that. They are obviously experienced, obviously twisted as fuck, and obviously were enjoying what they were doing, so I seriously doubt it was an act of revenge as much as it was an act of pure malevolence.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
The amount of people claiming that he did this himself is staggering and frightning.
If they are for equality, they are feminists, no matter if they want to call themselves as such. The only reason why people usually don't is because of these "anti-SJW" sprout such hateful vitrol against feminists that some people don't want to be targeted by that.
Credentials to the source code repository for Fez was posted on the Polytron site. Someone earlier said it was public facing (i.e. you could connect to it from the internet). If that's true it suggests his security was incredibly lax. Why would that not be locked down to a local network?
Hopefully, the code was not stolen, I guess we'll find out over the next few days if any more information is leaked.
AHA-Lambda
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Sorry what is the difference between /v/ and /V/?
SliceSabre
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CambriaRising
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One gets you to the website, and the other doesn't.
This is pure speculation because it's been a couple hours since I last checked up on /v/, but if /v/ is known for anything it's known for it's baiting. I would put money on that a large majority of the people claiming he did it to himself are just trolling.
Should be a pretty strong message to most people honestly. Pissing off the wrong person even if you aren't well known can lead to big issues if you aren't careful. I'm still too lazy honestly though, lol. I encrypt some shit, use 2 step for some other shit, but I'm too broke for extra hard drives, and my upload speed is 0.5 mbps so I never bother backing anything up. You call it irresponsible, I call it dramatic tension.
That's simply not true.
PrivateRyan
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I think you're missing the point I'm trying to make - other developers will look at the situation, say 'f that', and retreat from any sort of public-facing activity, commenting on certain events, etc.
Why risk it? If I was a developer, I certainly wouldn't. This story terrifies me and I'm nowhere near the firing line.
It really, really is.
hodayathink
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/v/ is real (i.e. is what that board is actually called). /V/ is what people call /v/ when they want to piss them off. And more importantly, is what Zoe called them when she said they were harassing her.
Lord of Castamere
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Wow. I didn't think we would see another thread on this or Phil Fish. Life always finds a way to surprise you.
The bold doesn't really make sense. Feminists who want equality are feminists who want equality, but you are not automatically a feminist if you want equality. The former exists without the latter, the latter can still exist without the former.
They're very particular about it being lowercase. So using the uppercase means the writer is probably an outsider poking fun at them.
This is awful. Regardless on what you think about feminism or Phil Fish or anything (and personally I have no real qualms with feminism as a whole and sort of support it, and I don't really know Phil Fish well enough to make judgements about him), Fish definitely doesn't deserve this. I'd be surprised if this didn't eventually get resolved but it's still awful.
Holy shit I didn't hear about that. If that's actually true, man, just facepalm +10. Like you can't be making that much money, and sirring up that much controversy in one of the biggest shitstorms of the last couple years in gaming, and not expect someone to try and hack you. I'm not trying to justify doxing someone ever, but come on.
TatteredHat
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Phil acts like an asshole and I wouldn't care if he left the gaming industry or not, but nobody deserves to be doxxed.
I doubt that guy who did it actually came from /v/, though.
I doubt that guy who did it actually came from /v/, though.
Or someone just wanting to fuck with the community(is he/she using V to throw off the scent or because it isnt really v) when the reality is they probably are loosely affiliated.
Prototype Viktor
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i knew it was slashdot!
darkwing-buck
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This is fucked up.
It's not really an inside joke, it's just manipulation more or less. If you know your way around someone's head well, all you need is a week on 4chan to be able to figure out exactly how to piss everyone off without doing anything. Like one minor detail like crediting the hack to /V/ probably rustled some serious jimmies over on 4chan. There are plenty other less obvious but still pretty apparent things inside the leak that are only there for the sake of trolling.
If it is it's probably the typical /r shit, where it is a brother of a friend of a cousin of an acquaintance, who decided to "pitch in".
If they support feminists principles, they are feminists. Again, feminism has such bad rep in some people's minds that they simply don't want to be called as such, even though they support everything that feminists are trying to achieve.
Apparently other developers/people involved with indie games have been hacked as well, not just Phil and Zoe. Hackers have also been targeting people who knew Zoe personally. No word on what the extent of the hacks are/were.
This is coming from rumblings from people involved with games on twitter.
This is coming from rumblings from people involved with games on twitter.
I just woke up, saw this, thought it was a bad joke until I've read the details.
This has nothing to do with gaming, social justice or equality; this is exactly what we as a community should avoid becoming. This should be not allowed to have a place in our hobby.
This is malicious cyber criminality that has no other intention than harming people for no reasons. Yes, for no reasons, because there is no reason to go so far and ruin somebody's life for things he says on a fucking micro-messaging website.
It's the same as terrorist groups who claim to do it for the religion: no, you don't do it to be against SJ, you did it because you are fucked up inside your head. Fucked up.
This has nothing to do with gaming, social justice or equality; this is exactly what we as a community should avoid becoming. This should be not allowed to have a place in our hobby.
This is malicious cyber criminality that has no other intention than harming people for no reasons. Yes, for no reasons, because there is no reason to go so far and ruin somebody's life for things he says on a fucking micro-messaging website.
It's the same as terrorist groups who claim to do it for the religion: no, you don't do it to be against SJ, you did it because you are fucked up inside your head. Fucked up.
That still doesn't make sense. I know it is semantics, but it really doesn't make sense. That means if your ideals are aligned with any group(whether you know about them or not) you are now "insert label here". Really odd way to look at the world.
BobbyRobby
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Say equality is the end goal. Feminists and other egalitarians may have different means for reaching that same end goal.
That is what separates some egalitarians and feminists.
Not all egalitarians are feminists because they differ in how they pursue equality.
SenorArdilla
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Private information from Valve, Sony, and Microsoft leaked. Personal information and contacts leaked.
This isn't something you complain about on Twitter. You go to the fucking government. Has anyone reported this to the FBI?
This isn't something you complain about on Twitter. You go to the fucking government. Has anyone reported this to the FBI?
OricWindstar
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Oh man, this is really fucked up. Phil Fish fan or not, this isn't cool.
The basic principle of feminism is equality of genders. You can't be a feminist and support inequality.
100%.
As far as we know right now it could easily be someone from /v/, intentionally giving credit to /v/ to make people on /v/ think that it's someone else, because no one ever credits hackings to the board, but when you really think about it the only person who would be motivated to piss off /v/ like that in such a specific fashion is of course someone from /v/. Or at least that's what the ebaumsworld affiliated hacker wants you to think, so it could actually go even deeper with someone not affiliated with /v/ intentionally baiting the hook and letting it go through like 4 steps of psychological inception so at the end of the line no one really has any idea what the fuck is going on.
Or aliens or zombies or some shit, I don't know fuck you. Lol.
Or aliens or zombies or some shit, I don't know fuck you. Lol.
Yeah, my first reaction wouldn't be complaining about it on twitter. I would be on the phone with the police the second something like this happened to me. And after that with the banks and other institutions and maybe after all of those phone calls I would considering saying something about it over on Twitter/Facebook.
Trust me, at least 5 people have already reported it to the FBI, don't worry about it.
Also night GAF, because of this thread I'm up till 4:10 am lol.
Of course they have, but I seriously hope that Fish is one of those 5 people. If you get what I am saying.
Feminism has a lot of different movements. It is MUCH easier to just agree with someone with the same goals as you vs trying to force everyone into the same social circle.
SapientWolf
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Or someone wanted to make it look that way. Which is kind of scary, if they put that much thought into it.
TheBlueBomber
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Dude seems like a dick, but this is in now way how someone should deal with what he says, this is so fucked up
Feminism isn't some club that you need to get into. It's like being conservative vs. liberal. If you have liberal values, you are a liberal. If you have feminist values, you are essentially a feminist, even if you don't want to be called such because you've bought into the negative stereotype about feminists.
I don't know man it's weird that everything is hacked except his twitter so he can complain even more.
I'll admit, as someone who never does this, when I noticed all the stuff that was taken but he still had his personal twitter I had to do a double take. I mean, I cant be the only guy who works in network security who thought... "Well that's odd". Until I know it for a fact though, I'm going to assume he did not do that, since it would be incredibly stupid and very conspiracy theory like. The more realistic explination, I'm guessing, is that the hacker wanted a way to talk to Phil.
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