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Polytron Hacked?

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CambriaRising

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Sioen said:
They probably hacked themselves to get more attention. Weird how his twitter wasn't hacked.. A bit too obvious for me.
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Twitter is more secure than you might think. No doubt a lot of devs have their twitter authorizations tied to their phones. I know I do, and I'm nobody.

Also probably not the best idea to be calling fake when so many people have now been affected.
 
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Madness

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Sioen said:
I don't know man it's weird that everything is hacked except his twitter so he can complain even more.
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Man, cmon, no one will ever leak their PayPal information, their bank account numbers, deposits, phone numbers, email addresses, website passwords, their work and home addresses, basically everything about them as part of some grand conspiracy. I mean I get people are jaded by hoaxes and lies, but this is not really one of them.
 
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LeBart

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Sioen said:
I don't know man it's weird that everything is hacked except his twitter so he can complain even more.
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He hacked his own site and revealed his own personnal information just so he could complain on twitter for an hour and then delete the account?
 
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Lord of Castamere

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Sioen said:
They probably hacked themselves to get more attention. Weird how his twitter wasn't hacked.. A bit too obvious for me.
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I doubt it it the trolls have more to gain from this than anyone else. This 'scandal' was dieing down but this hack has but it back to the top of the internet for a few more days.
 
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Faabulous

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This is horrible, and I'am a really horrible person for saying this, but: fuck me if this dude didn't poke the hornet's nest with a short stick.
 
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unbias

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Famassu said:
Feminism isn't some club that you need to get into. It's like being conservative vs. liberal. If you have liberal values, you are a liberal. If you have feminist values, you are essentially a feminist, even if you don't want to be called such because you've bought into the negative stereotype about feminists.
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I'd say you are being incredibly simplistic. Feminism isnt some single entity, there are tons of different beliefs and values wrapped up in it, ignoring this to me is an odd thing to do. Until you self idenitfy with a a set of values within feminist theory calling yourself feminist is incredibly silly. The need to label someone as such if they just want women to have the same opportunities as men doesn't really serve anyone. Like I said though, this is all semantics.
 
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Empty

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Sioen said:
They probably hacked themselves to get more attention. Weird how his twitter wasn't hacked.. A bit too obvious for me.
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this was mentioned upthread, but all the information comes from polytron (the company) server. there's no reason why phil's personal twitter would be on there.
 
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Atrophis

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Sioen said:
I don't know man it's weird that everything is hacked except his twitter so he can complain even more.
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Yeah man he's totally playin that victim card too. No doubt this is a clever ruse to raise publicity for Fez 2. You figured it out man! YOU BROKE THE CONSPIRACY WIDE OPEN.
 
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Widge

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Faabulous said:
f this dude didn't poke the hornet's nest with a short stick.
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I don't like that. I don't like that anonymous are seemingly without reproach, that they can sit there and do whatever they feel like because they want to.

For the good bits they do, they do a hell of a lot of shit because "we are the internet and we have decided you are our target now".

Far too much power tripping and agenda pushing. Unsurprising that a lot in their ranks have an anti-feminist stance.
 
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Goddard

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Famassu said:
The basic principle of feminism is equality of genders. You can't be a feminist and support inequality.
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I hate contributing to derailment, and I don't have any personal issue, but that is just incorrect. Feminism is only by extension the support for equality of genders. Fundamentally it is basically just fighting for the rights and freedoms of women. Historically that always meant by extension fighting for equality, because throughout history, women have generally had far fewer rights and freedoms than men have. However, just for the sake of argument/semantics, there are plenty of extremist feminists who, despite bringing a bad name to the cause of feminism, and despite generally being rejected by most feminists, want to reduce the rights of men and overleap them hugely with the rights of women, which is inherently both feminism and support for inequality.
 
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jiiikoo

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Faabulous said:
This is horrible, and I'am a really horrible person for saying this, but: fuck me if this dude didn't poke the hornet's nest with a short stick.
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Of course there is some fault in Phil himself. If he didn't say what he has said, no one would be so angry at him as to go to such lengths to harm him, but that still doesn't make the hackers actions excusable. They did something which isn't okay to do, and they have to face the consequences for all of their actions.
 
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Dr_LucienSanchez

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LeBart said:
He hacked his own site and revealed his own personnal information just so he could complain on twitter for an hour and then delete the account?
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This is obviously just part of the grand indie developers conspiracy that plans to destroy the gaming industry with social justice. Just connect the dots.

ganbareneopokekun said:
obligatory to all the "he's an asshole" statements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmTUW-owa2w
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Also, thanks for the video. Never understood the huge amounts of disturbing vitriol directed towards Fish.
 
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unbias

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jiiikoo said:
Of course there is some fault in Phil himself. If he didn't say what he has said, no one would be so angry at him as to go to such lengths to harm him, but that still doesn't make the hackers actions excusable. They did something which isn't okay to do, and they have to face the consequences for all of their actions.
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Assuming the hacker didn't properly use proxies. I mean the guy had to know the FBI will get involved, any hacker would know this.
 
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Faabulous

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Widge said:
I don't like that. I don't like that anonymous are seemingly without reproach, that they can sit there and do whatever they feel like because they want to.

For the good bits they do, they do a hell of a lot of shit because "we are the internet and we have decided you are our target now".

Far too much power tripping and agenda pushing. Unsurprising that a lot in their ranks have an anti-feminist stance.
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Yeah, I don't like that either mate. It sucks. But knowing that, would you still expose yourself just to make a point? That would be stupid. It's like coming here to Brazil and walking in a favela with your expensive camera out and complaining when you are robbed.

We all know the situations in the favelas are shit, but you didn't need to expose yourself like that for us to realize that.
 
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Regret Upon Approval

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How would you even get at all that information? It surely has to be someone who really knows what they are doing.

Sarobi said:
/v/ hacking? I honestly doubt anyone over there really knows how to hack anything
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Yeah, definitely not hackers on roids.
The most coordinated they get is usually to raid Gamespot polls.
 
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Goddard

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jiiikoo said:
Of course there is some fault in Phil himself. If he didn't say what he has said, no one would be so angry at him as to go to such lengths to harm him, but that still doesn't make the hackers actions excusable. They did something which isn't okay to do, and they have to face the consequences for all of their actions.
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This pretty much. It is no longer relevant whether or not he offended people because the ratio of perceived harm Phil has done to others vs what the hackers have done to him now is like 1:1000, but it is still true that if he didn't piss anyone off they wouldn't have touched him. No one should bring this up though, because again, the amount of damage the hackers has done is massive and completely unjustifiable regardless of what anyone has said on twitter.
 
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unbias

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Regret Upon Approval said:
How would you even get at all that information? It surely has to be someone who really knows what they are doing.



Yeah, definitely not hackers on roids.
The most coordinated they get is usually to raid Gamespot polls.
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If he properly protected his stuff, yes, the hacker would have had to have been very good and been working on this for alteast a few days. If Phil didnt secure his shit? No, not htat hard, really.
 
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Goddard

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unbias said:
Assuming the hacker didn't properly use proxies. I mean the guy had to know the FBI will get involved, any hacker would know this.
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GOOD_LUCK!_I'M_BEHIND_7_PROXIES!.jpg


I think the poster meant that they pretty much have coming whatever ends up coming to them, not that they will for sure get caught, but this is true nonetheless. All I am doing is making assumptions based on the information I have, but based on the execution of the hackings so far I seriously doubt that they didn't protect themselves really god damn well. At the same time there is protected then there is protected against the FBI, which are two entirely different things.

My bet is on them getting caught, not because of executional error, but because this was an act of evil/vengeance on a popular personality, and someone will probably end up bragging about it.
 
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unbias

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Drambit said:
GOOD_LUCK!_I'M_BEHIND_7_PROXIES!.jpg


I think the poster meant that they pretty much have coming whatever ends up coming to them, not that they will for sure get caught, but this is true nonetheless. All I am doing is making assumptions based on the information I have, but based on the execution of the hackings so far I seriously doubt that they didn't protect themselves really god damn well. At the same time there is protected then there is protected against the FBI, which are two entirely different things.

My bet is on them getting caught, not because of executional error, but because this was an act of evil/vengeance on a popular personality, and someone will probably end up bragging about it.
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Heh, I havnt seen that pic in a long while. Proxy bouncing is now the only practical way to get away with this shit, outside of mac address hacking(assuming he didnt secure shit), maybe.
 
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Some Nobody

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Famassu said:
If they are for equality, they are feminists, no matter if they want to call themselves as such. The only reason why people usually don't is because of these "anti-SJW" sprout such hateful vitrol against feminists that some people don't want to be targeted by that.
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Nah. They usually don't because of what Shinta is talking about--they don't want to be seen as extremists, because when it comes to the internet, regardless of the subject, that's all you see. Nobody sees the person trying to live their everyday life that happens to believe in equality for women, or other ethnicities, or any other progressive social cause. The internet signal boosts extremists, which actually hurts more than helps, but eh...
 
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jiiikoo

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unbias said:
Assuming the hacker didn't properly use proxies. I mean the guy had to know the FBI will get involved, any hacker would know this.
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I just ment that if they get caught, they really can't be crying about it or saying "it was just a harmful prank". People always need to take responsibility for their own actions, Phil has to take his and the hackers have to take theirs.
 
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unbias

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jiiikoo said:
I just ment that if they get caught, they really can't be crying about it or saying "it was just a harmful prank". People always need to take responsibility for their own actions, Phil has to take his and the hackers have to take theirs.
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The only thing is, the hacker might be a moron, because why would he advertise the information and where it is being seeded? I mean, it is like a big sign, saying please catch me.
 
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mercenar1e

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jiiikoo said:
I just ment that if they get caught, they really can't be crying about it or saying "it was just a harmful prank". People always need to take responsibility for their own actions, Phil has to take his and the hackers have to take theirs.
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Nobody knows who did it and an investigation takes weeks if not months to come to a conclusion.. They might not find the person or the person might be overseas in a country that doesn't have extradition treaties with the US. Let's just wait and see how things play out.
 
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Some Nobody

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firehawk12 said:
Of course this whole story is stupid, but there are claims that all of Quinns hacks were faked as well.

Man, I wish I didn't know about all this drama in the first place.
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"Could this story get any worse?" It could, if the bolded were true. It's not, but yeah that's how this thing really implodes on itself.
 
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jiiikoo

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unbias said:
The only thing is, the hacker might be a moron, because why would he advertise the information and where it is being seeded? I mean, it is like a big sign, saying please catch me.
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It doesn't matter if they are a moron or mentally impaired. They still have to face the consequences to the extent of the law. Being a moron doesn't magically excuse someone of their actions.
 
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unbias

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jiiikoo said:
It doesn't matter if they are a moron or mentally impaired. They still have to face the consequences to the extent of the law. Being a moron doesn't magically excuse someone of their actions.
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Oh, I know. I agree if he gets caught he needs to get punished. Just whoever decided to advertise where he uploaded the information deserves to get caught simply on stupidity alone. He better be in a different country where they cant bring him in, for his own sake.
 
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jiiikoo

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mercenar1e said:
Nobody knows who did it and an investigation takes weeks if not months to come to a conclusion.. They might not find the person or the person might be overseas in a country that doesn't have extradition treaties with the US. Let's just wait and see how things play out.
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My point doesn't have anything to do with if they get caught or not. I'm just saying that what ever comes of this to the hackers, is their fault and theirs only. If nothing happens, then so be it, but if someone attacks against them or they get sent to prison, their defence isn't "Well, Phil is a total asshole".
 
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Phinor

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Sometimes I wish we went back to medieval age punishment. Just ridiculous stuff like cutting off the hands of worst internet trolls and things like that. Just severe punishment with as much thought put into them as there's in doing stupid stuff people do on the Internet.

The worrying thing is, my definition of "sometimes" is becoming increasingly rapid. I don't think people were this stupid and cruel even five years ago, were they? Sure there were hacking incidents all the time, but the targets used to be corporations and things like that. These days all the hatred is targeted at people you slightly disagree with.
 
Zok310

Zok310

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Damn this guy can't catch a break.

Like with any dispute lines are drawn and people begin picking sides. So now this have evolved into hackers vs Quinn sympathizers. When the dust settles a lot more than 5 guys would have been fucked, figuratively speaking ofc.
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
Sage Shinigami said:
"Could this story get any worse?" It could, if the bolded were true. It's not, but yeah that's how this thing really implodes on itself.
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Admittedly, /v seem to be reacting the same way GAF reacts when CliffyB or some other developer calls this place a cesspool of humanity. So it's a lot of voices that are trying to defend against what they feel are false accusations.
 
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Sarobi

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Phinor said:
Sometimes I wish we went back to medieval age punishment. Just ridiculous stuff like cutting off the hands of worst internet trolls and things like that. Just severe punishment with as much thought put into them as there's in doing stupid stuff people do on the Internet.

The worrying thing is, my definition of "sometimes" is becoming increasingly rapid. I don't think people were this stupid and cruel even five years ago, were they? Sure there were hacking incidents all the time, but the targets used to be corporations and things like that. These days all the hatred is targeted at people you slightly disagree with.
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They were, depending on where you was looking.
The Internet has been a place where stupid people can do evil things behind keyboards for quite sometime, it just gets noticed a lot more.
 
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Vice

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LeBart said:
He hacked his own site and revealed his own personnal information just so he could complain on twitter for an hour and then delete the account?
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Big Andy Kaufman fan isn't he? Wouldn't be too far of a stretch,I mean Shia LeBouf temporarily tanked his career last year in a Kaufman-inspired bout.
 
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Brutalitops

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>Leader of 4chan and Anonymous
>We do not forgive. We do not forget.
>We are /V/
>/V/

Anybody who goes to /v/ would know this is pretty much trolling /v/. I doubt it was actually them.
 
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Nephrahim

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If Phil Fish wants to make a splash he doesn't need to pretend to hack his account. He just has to post on it for 5 minutes and people will find out.
 
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wonderdung

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Rez said:
I don't think your definition is correct.

Brian Garner on the topic:
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Empathy is the ability to put yourself in the person's shoes and emulate their feelings about a situation. If you're not Professor X or Deanna Troi this would be rather uncommon unless you had experienced something similar.

Your source says "imagine" but most definitions imply a stronger link than that. I'm aware of this because I looked it up before I posted just to be sure.

Regardless lack of empathy is no specific problem. Sympathy is clearly what people are talking about in this instance.
 
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