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[Septic360]

Come on really? You think Fish took this massive risk hacking his account to do what? Make the internet feel sorry for him?

If the info that has been leaked is legit, that would be devastating for his career/personal life.

Anyway, this whole fiasco has reminded me of just how insecure my information is online. Brb. Gonna go delete email confirmation of fleshlight deliveries.

 

[Nibel]

Is there a GAF thread on how to be more secure?

 

[Empty]

Yeah, I saw that image too.

I dunno. The idea that he hacked his account just makes no sense because he gains nothing. What, he makes people hate /v/? They already do? And nobody cares if he's a victim, they still think he's an asshole. There's just no upside to it.

the risk is pretty high too. confidential business deals with microsoft, sony and valve are leaked here. no-one knew what playstation plus deals pay out before now, for example. those companies have well funded legal departments.

 

[Toxi]

He gets exposure and more game sales.

Yes, Phil Fish is totally wanting for exposure and game sales, and is willing to risk public humiliation and any chance of a future job at a company to get more.

Do you just regurgitate whatever shit you can greentext?

 

[Nephrahim]

Is there a GAF thread on how to be more secure?

Step 1, don't get famous enough to attract a large following of people who'd love to see you hacked.

 

[Lime]

Gamers talk so much about censorship when defending their precious video games. Yet with the way they behave regarding Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Samantha Allen, etc. and this particular incident is a huge performative self-contradiction, seeing how this directly results in people being afraid of voicing their opinions from now on.

This is a huge blow to free and open discourse in video game culture. I swear, these fucking sexist nerds.

 

[Polk]

CloudFlare does not require two-factor auth, even on an untrusted device or connection.

Wait, people actually believe Phil is so insane he leaked his own SSN and other info?

 

[Dr_LucienSanchez]

Wait, people actually believe Phil is so insane he leaked his own SSN and other info?

Yes, look at a few posts on this page and the previous page with that crazy Solid Snake avatar person. Apparently this is a way to become more famous and market your game.

 

[Guess Who]

Wait, people actually believe Phil is so insane he leaked his own SSN and other info?

Surprise surprise, people will do all kinds of ridiculous batshit mental gymnastics to hate Phil Fish and/or Zoe Quinn.

 

[Nephrahim]

"People" believe that the government is controlled by Reptilians.

It doesn't count for much that someone believes it.

 

[firehawk12]

Is there a GAF thread on how to be more secure?

Use 1password to generate random passwords for everything you use.
Turn on 2-factor authentication for anything you can.
And if you are super paranoid, use a unique email address for every single service you sign up for.

 

[SolidsnackooFoxhound]

Yes, Phil Fish is totally wanting for exposure and game sales, and is willing to risk public humiliation and any chance of a future job at a company to get more.

Do you just regurgitate whatever shit you can greentext?

Yea, he's actually that stupid. Dumb enough to post on /v/ LEAVE HIS ACCOUNT LOGGED IN while taking a screen cap of the tweet and posting on /v/ trying to be somebody else. Know your facts before you start talking out of your ass.

 

[funkystudent]

I dont know about these Fish leaked it himself theory... Phil seems like the "I am going to laugh about not making Fez 2 on top of my giant pile of money" kind of guy.

 

[Some Nobody]

Sometimes I wish we went back to medieval age punishment. Just ridiculous stuff like cutting off the hands of worst internet trolls and things like that. Just severe punishment with as much thought put into them as there's in doing stupid stuff people do on the Internet.

The worrying thing is, my definition of "sometimes" is becoming increasingly rapid. I don't think people were this stupid and cruel even five years ago, were they? Sure there were hacking incidents all the time, but the targets used to be corporations and things like that. These days all the hatred is targeted at people you slightly disagree with.

The arguments have changed, but on the whole people get better over time, not worse. Crime actually trends downward. But as a denizen of the internet since before FB/Youtube/this new shit, basically being online has always made assholes of people. It's gotten worse (or feels like it) because more people are getting online.

 

[Empty]

Yea, he's actually that stupid. Dumb enough to post on /v/ LEAVE HIS ACCOUNT LOGGED IN while taking a screen cap of the tweet and posting on /v/ trying to be somebody else. Know your facts before you start talking out of your ass.

did the invention of photoshop pass you by?

 

[Genryu]

did the invention of photoshop pass you by?

I believe he means that Phil was logged in on his account while trying to post anonymously about his tweet that he made.

 

[KJRS_1993]

This sort of behaviour, as well as accusations of being an SJW and a feminist intent on destroying the gaming industry, always seems to be carried about by jaded nerds who don't know how to get a woman to speak to them.

I can hardly begin to imagine why they're not very appealing people to speak to.

 

[SZips]

Is there a GAF thread on how to be more secure?

I'm a fan of KeePass with unique passwords for EVERY site. It has some nice add-ons for browsers as well. Beyond that use 2-step authentication everywhere you can (Google, Microsoft, game accounts, social media accounts, etc.).

 

[Qassim]

Uhm, with Cloudflare why would they need access to Cloudflare to change stuff on his site? That isn't how Cloudflare works - you don't upload stuff to Cloudflare, it sits in front of your server and manages the traffic going in and out - if you change stuff on the server itself, Cloudflare will serve whatever changes have been made.

You don't host your website 'on Cloudflare' it's a network layer service.

 

[Guess Who]

I believe he means that Phil was logged in on his account while trying to post anonymously about his tweet that he made.

He's referring to an incident where a screen cap of Polytron's tweet announcing the cancellation of Fez II was posted with accompanying text complaining that it's 4chan's fault it happened. The screen cap showed a "Delete" option on the tweet, which is normally only viewable if you posted the tweet, implying it was Phil who made the screen cap and thus the 4chan post.

Of course, it's 300% more likely that a 4chan anon deliberately Photoshopped that to troll than it is for Phil Fish to have made the post.

 

[Messofanego]

Gamers talk so much about censorship when defending their precious video games. Yet with the way they behave regarding Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Samantha Allen, etc. and this particular incident is a huge performative self-contradiction, seeing how this directly results in people being afraid of voicing their opinions from now on.

This is a huge blow to free and open discourse in video game culture. I swear, these fucking sexist nerds.

It's like these people want everything to go back to the 90s where you couldn't communicate as widely or have different voices/perspectives. Backwards goals. Sad, hypocritical fools.

 

[Higgins113]

"I am the head mod over at /V/ and leader of 4chan.org and Anonymous"
Haha if that is someone from /v/, they're just messing with them

 

[Empty]

I believe he means that Phil was logged in on his account while trying to post anonymously about his tweet that he made.

i'm implying that it's incredibly easy to photoshop that image to make it look like phil posted it by taking the public tweet and adding the user elements from a random tweet you made, y'know as a fun wind-up in a community full of joking and trolling

we're talking about this yeah

http://images.lazygamer.net/2013/07/fishy.png

 

[gngf123]

He's referring to an incident where a screen cap of Polytron's tweet announcing the cancellation of Fez II was posted with accompanying text complaining that it's 4chan's fault it happened. The screen cap showed a "Delete" option on the tweet, which is normally only viewable if you posted the tweet, implying it was Phil who made the screen cap and thus the 4chan post.

Of course, it's 300% more likely that a 4chan anon deliberately Photoshopped that to troll than it is for Phil Fish to have made the post.

Wouldn't even need Photoshop. 30 seconds using inspect element in Chrome or Firebug in Firefox and you get the same thing.

Anyway, fuck I hate the Internet sometimes.

 

[RionaaM]

This is fucking terrible. I like Phil Fish, but no one deserves this, even if I didn't. Hope the guy's alright :/

 

[TheHollowNight]

Were these people also trying to hack nobodies as well? Because my Twitter account had a breach attempt last night...

 

[FloweryMarston]

lol at people thinking that phil fish is the master ruseman in hacking his own account.

 

[SolidsnackooFoxhound]

This is fucking terrible. I like Phil Fish, but no one deserves this, even if I didn't. Hope the guy's alright :/

Anybody that wants people to die deserves this.

 

[YianGaruga]

Were these people also trying to hack nobodies as well? Because my Twitter account had a breach attempt last night...

That is most likely unrelated. Twitter accounts are getting "hacked" every day for many reasons.

Anybody that wants people to die deserves this.

No one desevers this for any reason at all, they guy was an asshole but all he did was talk. Go back to 4chan

 

[Sarobi]

Were these people also trying to hack nobodies as well? Because my Twitter account had a breach attempt last night...

How does it feel knowing that the leader of 4chan and /V/ could of possibly attempted to hack and slander your reputation?

 

[Piston Hyundai]

How does it feel knowing that the leader of 4chan and /V/ could of possibly attempted to hack and slander your reputation?

We don't know if it was them in that case until they say it's them, like with the Polytron hack!

 

[SolidsnackooFoxhound]

How does it feel knowing that the leader of 4chan and /V/ could of possibly attempted to hack and slander your reputation?

It's pretty scary. What if somebody on GAF did it :O?

 

[TheHollowNight]

That is most likely unrelated. Twitter accounts are getting "hacked" every day for many reasons.

Well, I mean I expect that as much, but I've been pretty proactive on Twitter in regards to this weeks events, so I was curious to know if there was also a more widespread random 'sweep' happening to anyone that's an indie dev. I very much doubt I'm of any concern/threat to these people though lol

 

[Sarobi]

It's pretty scary. What if somebody on GAF did it :O?

Or if it was someone from GameFaqs that just wanted to make GAF look bad!?!? EVERYONE IS A SUSPECT

 

[YianGaruga]

Well, I mean I expect that as much, but I've been pretty proactive on Twitter in regards to this weeks events, so I was curious to know if there was also a more widespread random 'sweep' happening to anyone that's an indie dev. I very much doubt I'm of any concern/threat to these people though lol

I haven't heard any reports from anyone, and I don't think twitter was even targeted at all. Phil Fish still posted on his account normally after the site was hacked.

 

[coughlanio]

I just picked through the zip, and man, there's some super interesting stuff in there.

This does suck though, no matter how you feel about the man, this is really uncalled for. I don't blame him for quitting, but nor do I have sympathy for him. Spreading vitriol online, only attracts vitriol in return.

 

[RageBot]

Come on really? You think Fish took this massive risk hacking his account to do what? Make the internet feel sorry for him?

If the info that has been leaked is legit, that would be devastating for his career/personal life.

Anyway, this whole fiasco has reminded me of just how insecure my information is online. Brb. Gonna go delete email confirmation of fleshlight deliveries.

I think he did it to show how much money he made, in order to sell Fez and his company.

 

[TheHollowNight]

I haven't heard any reports from anyone, and I don't think twitter was even targeted at all. Phil Fish still posted on his account normally after the site was hacked.

I got one of those emails from Twitter security saying someone tried to access your account from an unknown device/location. So I was a wee bit concerned this was turning into something ridiculous.

 

[Despera]

Oh shit. Time to buff GAF's defenses!

This whole debacle is beyond pathetic. Years down the line we'll remember these dark times and cringe.

 

[Lime]

I just picked through the zip, and man, there's some super interesting stuff in there.

This does suck though, no matter how you feel about the man, this is really uncalled for. I don't blame him for quitting, but nor do I have sympathy for him. Spreading vitriol online, only attracts vitriol in return.

Nice victim blaming.

 

[Coldsun]

I think he did it to show how much money he made, in order to sell Fez and his company.

You can't be serious. If it came out that he did as such, Sony, Microsoft, and his other partners would sue him into non-existence for leaking their contracts.

 

[Pennywise]

I think he did it to show how much money he made, in order to sell Fez and his company.

And he couldn't do that by revealing the actual profit to some potential interested buyers ?

Oh well....

 

[Toxi]

I think he did it to show how much money he made, in order to sell Fez and his company.

I've seen some mental gymnastics, but I think this takes the cake.

 

[scytheavatar]

Come on really? You think Fish took this massive risk hacking his account to do what? Make the internet feel sorry for him?

He already stated previously how he wants to take the money and leave, could be that this incident is a great excuse for him to leave the gaming industry once and for all. Or could be that he's genuinely disgusted by what that happen to Zoe Quinn and wants to make a statement. You can't say that Fish has proven himself to be a guy who gives much damn about future consequences.

Either way I find it a bit hard to believe some hack can net you so much information about Phil Fish/Polytron.

 

[OG Loc]

I think he did it to show how much money he made, in order to sell Fez and his company.

While Phil Fish is currently the best villain in the industry, I think you're making him more nefarious than he actually is.

 

[gngf123]

I got one of those emails from Twitter security saying someone tried to access your account from an unknown device/location. So I was a wee bit concerned this was turning into something ridiculous.

I've been getting multiple of those emails the last couple of days. Pretty much ever since following Phil on Twitter.

I highly doubt they are related.

 

[CambriaRising]

I've seen some mental gymnastics, but I think this takes the cake.

You have to admire the creativity though.

 

[Cowie]

I just picked through the zip, and man, there's some super interesting stuff in there.

This does suck though, no matter how you feel about the man, this is really uncalled for. I don't blame him for quitting, but nor do I have sympathy for him. Spreading vitriol online, only attracts vitriol in return.

Phil Fish's crime is saying some shitty stuff on Twitter. This is hardly an eye-for-an-eye exchange here.

 

[TheHollowNight]

I've been getting multiple of those emails the last couple of days. Pretty much ever since following Phil on Twitter.

I highly doubt they are related.

Very odd. Ah well, they would have been wasting their time getting access to my account anyways

 

[RazielCuts]

Gamers talk so much about censorship when defending their precious video games. Yet with the way they behave regarding Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Samantha Allen, etc. and this particular incident is a huge performative self-contradiction, seeing how this directly results in people being afraid of voicing their opinions from now on.

This is a huge blow to free and open discourse in video game culture. I swear, these fucking sexist nerds.

Can we stop with this though, I've seen it a lot lately, blaming everyone in the collective for the actions of a loud minority group. I consider myself a 'gamer' (although I'm not a fan of the word) and to an extent I am nerdy about some of my interests. I imagine you consider yourself to be too. I don't associate myself with any of these individuals so can I not to be lumped into their malicious actions? I welcome diversity in the community and the types of games we play, this group does not represent me or my interests as a gamer or a nerd.

Can we get over using 'gamer' and 'nerd' as a pejorative when someone who is interested in games also acts like an asshole, you can be one or the other or both but just because you are one doesn't necessarily mean you are automatically the other, thanks.