CambriaRising
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Great rebuttal post, would read again.
#notallgamers
Great rebuttal post, would read again.
#notallgamers
Great rebuttal post, would read again.
what rebuttal? we need to get this started as a hashtag movement to show those asshole SJWs that not everyone agrees with all the shit they get even if they probably deserve it
I wouldn't say it's weird, it makes a lot of sense that people would given the history of the board. But I would agree with you that it's bad to.Yeah I just think it's weird to use them as the defaul with zero evidenceIt was probably a group of /v/ postersbut organized on IRC
Any modern implementation of Two factor authentication will be using a new version of SHA, RSA with key sizes greater than 1024 bits and a well obfuscated algorithm for key sharing (probably based on shamir's secret sharing) would require months for even NSA to break. Either Phil didn't select the option which is dumb as hell or he was socially engineered.2) It's not like two factor has never been broken in history before.
So now "fuck, stupid fuck, asshole fuck" is a decent rhetoric to an argument.Okay, you guys accusing Phil of leak the info himself:
Are you actually serious?
Do you really think, Phil Fish is such an attention whore or whatever that he leaks all of his own personal information, all the passwords and whatever from Polytron, all their financial results and whatnot, himself onto the internet???
You really think he is risking years upon years of jail time and a huuuuuge amount of money just to get attention?
Are you guys out of your fucking mind or do you hate Phil Fish so much that you want him to burn for all eternity?
Because all you guys are doing is make yourself look stupid. Incredibly stupid. I mean, like, seriously, so fucking stupid. Like "You can't comprehend the true form of Gyigas' attack" kind of stupid. Stop doing stupid things.
This leak was done by some stupid hackers that are almost as stupid as you are. Except they went through with something that is even more stupid.
I don't care if you think or say that Phil Fish is a tremendous asshole for things he said in the past or whatever. But if you really think he did it all himself...well, I already wrote what I have to say about that.
If you think that he did bring this upon himself and deserves it: Well, then I can say that I don't agree with you. Nobody deserves this, except maybe the most corrupt people high up there in the food chain.
.... WowHe brought it upon himself. Give negative, get back negative. Someone was bound to do something like this, as he just couldn't keep it shut.
The people committing a crime.
With that, I'm out.
I wouldn't say it's weird, it makes a lot of sense that people would given the history of the board. But I would agree with you that it's bad to.
Any modern implementation of Two factor authentication will be using a new version of SHA, RSA with key sizes greater than 1024 bits and a well obfuscated algorithm for key sharing (probably based on shamir's secret sharing) would require months for even NSA to break. Either Phil didn't select the option which is dumb as hell or he was socially engineered.
Except this kind of stuff keeps happening and the common link is women daring to do stuff in videogames so gg no re.The thing is, chalking up the anomic work of unknown individuals as "attacks against feminism" or as out right misogyny, is hard to point at. The motivations are completely unclear IMO.
Wait these computers can be used for something other than excel spreadsheets?
I dont know who to trust anymore, I've been choking on it for the past two years just like Phil told me to.
Get better Phil, Dementia is nothing to make fun of.
Okay, you guys accusing Phil of leak the info himself:
Are you actually serious?
Do you really think, Phil Fish is such an attention whore or whatever that he leaks all of his own personal information, all the passwords and whatever from Polytron, all their financial results and whatnot, himself onto the internet???
You really think he is risking years upon years of jail time and a huuuuuge amount of money just to get attention?
Are you guys out of your fucking mind or do you hate Phil Fish so much that you want him to burn for all eternity?
Because all you guys are doing is make yourself look stupid. Incredibly stupid. I mean, like, seriously, so fucking stupid. Like "You can't comprehend the true form of Gyigas' attack" kind of stupid. Stop doing stupid things.
This leak was done by some stupid hackers that are almost as stupid as you are. Except they went through with something that is even more stupid.
I don't care if you think or say that Phil Fish is a tremendous asshole for things he said in the past or whatever. But if you really think he did it all himself...well, I already wrote what I have to say about that.
If you think that he did bring this upon himself and deserves it: Well, then I can say that I don't agree with you. Nobody deserves this, except maybe the most corrupt people high up there in the food chain.
The problem here is that there is nothing to be gained from this for Phil Fish. It's equivalent to suggesting that the owners of that epilepsy website that was hacked to show flashing images some time ago did it because they would have had an easier time doing it than outside hackers.So now "fuck, stupid fuck, asshole fuck" is a decent rhetoric to an argument.
Could you tell me why he told you to chock on it?Wait these computers can be used for something other than excel spreadsheets?
I dont know who to trust anymore, I've been choking on it for the past two years just like Phil told me to.
Get better Phil, Dementia is nothing to make fun of.
Except this kind of stuff keeps happening and the common link is women daring to do stuff in videogames so gg no re.
Can we stop with this though, I've seen it a lot lately, blaming everyone in the collective for the actions of a loud minority group. I consider myself a 'gamer' (although I'm not a fan of the word) and to an extent I am nerdy about some of my interests. I imagine you consider yourself to be too. I don't associate myself with any of these individuals so can I not to be lumped into their malicious actions? I welcome diversity in the community and the types of games we play, this group does not represent me or my interests as a gamer or a nerd.
Can we get over using 'gamer' and 'nerd' as a pejorative when someone who is interested in games also acts like an asshole, you can be one or the other or both but just because you are one doesn't necessarily mean you are automatically the other, thanks.
What negative posts, can you give an example which may have lead to this scenario? Something recent?He brought it upon himself. Give negative, get back negative. Someone was bound to do something like this, as he just couldn't keep it shut.
.... Wow
What negative posts, can you give an example which may have lead to this scenario? Something recent?
Eh im not hardcore conspiracy theorizing here, but this is exactly what Andy Kauffman would do in todays digital age as a publicity stunt. I mean... is this info proven legit? I mean yeah, home address and SSN are pretty easy to find, but the bank info and passwords could be old or fake. I just woke up so im not caught up fully. Great publicity for Fez 2 tho, and makes Phil the victim after years of being the aggressor
There's a point here though. I miss when gaming was about the games, and not the politics surrounded by it.
Recently gaming press has been very focused on social justice issues, almost to the point where many who are conducive to the idea are getting tired of being told over and over that gaming is full of sexism and stop being so sexist. It gets tuned out.
Heck, a female cosplayer friend of mine was actually harassed at a con (by other women no less) because she was wearing the Other M version of Samus' s zerosuit.
I'm not saying that there isn't a reason to call out sexism, but I'm also saying there's a boiling point that we're fast approaching, and the whole zoe thing and this hack are indicative of that.
What a pathetic little nothing.
Could you tell me why he told you to chock on it?
I assume he didn't message you out of the blue.
Fish nuked his twitter account but I'm sure people will be along shortly with a myrid of screenshots of his incessant ranting over the past few weeks, including calling out TB who wasn't even involved with any of this to begin with.What negative posts, can you give an example which may have lead to this scenario? Something recent?
There seems to be a systemic and collective problem when it comes to dealing with self-criticism and introspection by the gaming community. Much of the response to innocent and harmless observations by women and minorities in gaming culture are reactionary if not hostile, illogical, selfish, and discriminatory. This is a collective problem.
ah ha o wow /v/'ve done something good for onceIs it people who hate women or /v/? Because..
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-fine-young-capitalists--2#home
https://twitter.com/TFYCapitalists/status/502310263904034816
https://twitter.com/TFYCapitalists/status/502609147528220672
GAF's confusing me.
For a regular joe there is nothing to be gained, but for the guy that publicly demanded that Twitter gave him a verified account or he wouldn't make a sequel to his wildly popular game? It's at the very least up in the air. If this was or was not Phil Fish, it can certainly be said that his name is now becoming larger than the intellectual property he created. Which in my eyes brings in the amount of effort necessary for both parties to create this event.The problem here is that there is nothing to be gained from this for Phil Fish. It's equivalent to suggesting that the owners of that epilepsy website that was hacked to show flashing images some time ago did it because they would have had an easier time doing it than outside hackers.
Neither do I.I honestly don't know what to make of it.
But the people making blatant generalizations are also damaging the scene.
Who is doing more damage.
A few people mad at probable (still largely unproven) nepotism.
Games journalist suddenly painting the whole broad spectrum of gamers as sexist nerds.
(If you don't believe that's happening, just follow a few "journalist" on twitter and see what they've been saying)
I guess he has the perfect alibi.Okay, you guys accusing Phil of leak the info himself:
Are you actually serious?
Do you really think, Phil Fish is such an attention whore or whatever that he leaks all of his own personal information, all the passwords and whatever from Polytron, all their financial results and whatnot, himself onto the internet???
You really think he is risking years upon years of jail time and a huuuuuge amount of money just to get attention?
Are you guys out of your fucking mind or do you hate Phil Fish so much that you want him to burn for all eternity?
Because all you guys are doing is make yourself look stupid. Incredibly stupid. I mean, like, seriously, so fucking stupid. Like "You can't comprehend the true form of Gyigas' attack" kind of stupid. Stop doing stupid things.
This leak was done by some stupid hackers that are almost as stupid as you are. Except they went through with something that is even more stupid.
I don't care if you think or say that Phil Fish is a tremendous asshole for things he said in the past or whatever. But if you really think he did it all himself...well, I already wrote what I have to say about that.
If you think that he did bring this upon himself and deserves it: Well, then I can say that I don't agree with you. Nobody deserves this, except maybe the most corrupt people high up there in the food chain.
There are ALWAYS other factors surrounding gaming.
Social issues are a raising factor, because there is simply not enough diversity.
You've already got an opinion but don't want to take part in the discussion ?
Skip it.
Alot of people are fed up with resolution discussions or exclusivity discussions.
Smart people just skip these topics alltogether, others don't and get even more angry with the whole discussion...
It's not like anybody is forcing you to read every single article that tackles those issues...
I agree that it's a bit exhausting to see so many topics about it, but well, I guess that's a similar feeling people have when they see standard caucasian male nr.3465425.
If you actually try to do something about the culture, at least individually and close to you, then that's good. If you let bigotry pass you by and ignore it in the many times it comes up whenever issues of gender, race, sexuality, ability, etc. come up, then you're automatically complicit in maintaining the status quo of gaming culture as collectively bigoted, hurtful, exclusionary and insular.
The idea of stereotypes in western society is will tightly coupled with the idea of inter-group attitudes, suggesting that how your thoughts, notions and assumptions are viewed by others is still entirely based on the categories that people place you in. You may not identify as a gamer but you are a guy that plays games and therefore your opinion will still be viewed in that collective when the discussion is based on the inter-groups; gamers and non gamers. Society is a long way away from removing ideas such as collective guilt and collective punishment.It can't be a collective problem if there is no collective.
I don't belong to a group. I am me and I represent me, and me alone. I don't think you can point to some shared ideology or grand narrative in this group to tie them together. To be honest, I think the idea you can do that in any sector of society is rapidly falling apart.
That doesn't mean their can't be systematic failures of all of us to fix, but it does mean the language and theoretical implications of collective guilt and collective punishment that naturally lead can be wrong.
Not me personally, just people in general.
#GetWellSoonPhil #GazaSupportsPhilFish
He deleted his twitter so it's tough to link. I do believe be said something akin to "I wish I could lock all gamers in a building and set it on fire" but I'm probably mistaken.
There's a point here though. I miss when gaming was about the games, and not the politics surrounded by it.
Recently gaming press has been very focused on social justice issues, almost to the point where many who are conducive to the idea are getting tired of being told over and over that gaming is full of sexism and stop being so sexist. It gets tuned out.
From what I can tell, making yourself a soldier for a cause or another has a way of burning yourself out and turning you into the kind of person who yells about "gamers" on twitter in bitter rants or have sudden furious outbursts on message boards that gets you banned (and become terribly snarky until then). I'll pass, there's a lot of things in this world that are troubling and can hurt to look at, but getting mad about videogames ain't how I'm going to spend my one life on this earth.
And sure, "gamers" could be viewed as homophobic, misogynistic, etc., in so much the demographics that make them up are, whomever we decide to pinpoint on at a given time, and the world at large is.
From what I can tell, making yourself a soldier for a cause or another has a way of burning yourself out and turning you into the kind of person who yells about "gamers" on twitter in bitter rants or have sudden furious outbursts on message boards that gets you banned (and become terribly snarky until then). I'll pass, there's a lot of things in this world that are troubling and can hurt to look at, but getting mad about videogames ain't how I'm going to spend my one life on this earth.
And sure, "gamers" could be viewed as homophobic, misogynistic, etc., in so much the demographics that make them up are, whomever we decide to pinpoint on at a given time, and the world at large is.
Eh im not hardcore conspiracy theorizing here, but this is exactly what Andy Kauffman would do in todays digital age as a publicity stunt. I mean... is this info proven legit? I mean yeah, home address and SSN are pretty easy to find, but the bank info and passwords could be old or fake. I just woke up so im not caught up fully. Great publicity for Fez 2 tho, and makes Phil the victim after years of being the aggressor
John Walker said:Phase four is by far the nastiest part. With the previous phases in play, with the notion out there that theres a cover-up taking place, that the corruption is endemic and that its all part of [whichever agenda], something hideously personal happens like a hack. So the persons privacy is hacked, their personal details are exposed in public, such that those swept up into the tornado of abuse can release their rage on that person. But thats not the key part of this phase. The crucial element is then instantly following this up with accusations that the individual involved leaked the information themselves, so they can get sympathy/prove theyre being victimised/pin the blame. This is so insidious, so damned horrendous. Within seconds of any such exposure of personal information, the same people will immediately throw their hands in the air and beg the victim of their attack not to fire. Its like that moment in the film where the identical killer robot version of the human looks at the cops and cries, IM THE REAL HIM! KILL THE ROBOT, NOT ME! Except in this case, its their actions that attempt to make the target look indistinguishable from them. Shes the monster! Shes the one doing it all!
The idiocy that someone would expose their own personal details is all part of the elaborate conspiracy. Exactly! She did it because it would make it look like it was something shed never do! En masse they will begin tweeting and posting links to the hacked page, saying, Look what she has done! Shes done this to make herself look like a victim! Its the ultimate twofer for them they get the personal details out there, so that the abuse for the victim can become so much worse, and they make it part of, and proof of, the conspiracy theyd already begun.
Its the same each time.
Wait these computers can be used for something other than excel spreadsheets?
I dont know who to trust anymore, I've been choking on it for the past two years just like Phil told me to.
Get better Phil, Dementia is nothing to make fun of.
And those girls wearing tight jeans are just asking to get raped, right? And the black kid stealing cigars and mouthing off to cops is just asking to get shot and killed, right?Wow--what? Twitter is basically a public forum. If he were talk his mess in an offline public forum to crowds of people, do you think things would have been any worse?
Some assholes fucked him over because of his vindictive tongue, or mind. I'm not really condoning what happened to him, but im saying, the kid was poking at hornets nest as it was.The internet is worse now, than all the 21 years i've been on it.
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