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[Mr-Joker]

Welp the finale was something amazing, though I don't understand how the Avatar state work, especially Korra is disconnected from her past life.

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and still is.

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Also Korra being emotionally at the end makes me think that book 4 will finally allow her to grow.

There was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tORslUY699o

Why wasn't this an official episode instead of being tied to a game?

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Sad that Ghazan is dead. He had the most personality of a villian since Zuko in season one of ATLA.

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Who say's he's dead?

 

[Mononoke]

Welp the finale was something amazing, though I don't understand how the Avatar state work, especially Korra is disconnected from her past life.

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and still is.

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Also Korra being emotionally at the end makes me think that book 4 will finally allow her to grow.

Why wasn't this an official episode instead of being tied to a game?

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Who say's he's dead?

Well, in the past the Avatar state's power was a build up of all the past lives combined. Since her past lives were cut off, I guess her Avatar state still exists as a mechanism, it's just much weaker (as it doesn't have the combined past lives to lend to its power). At least, that's my take on it. *shrugs*.

 

[Gotchaye]

Flying doesn't seem too strange as a thing airbenders might do. Sky bison do it all the time. As with a lot of other stuff, the only aspect of it that maybe needs explanation is why it's not more common.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Flying doesn't seem too strange as a thing airbenders might do. Sky bison do it all the time. As with a lot of other stuff, the only aspect of it that maybe needs explanation is why it's not more common.

I guess it'd be too OP? lol

I mean aang kinda did it when he made that ball during that fight vs Ozai.

 

[MartyStu]

The avatar state has been poorly used throughout legend of korra. As a defense mechanism it never actually works when it should and when she should be using it, she never does. Bryan and Mike never should have written in her gaining complete control of it in book 1.

The problem is with the Avatar State itself. It is a pretty big 'I Win' button.

With Aang, they pretty much had to build it within the story. With Korra, they are trying not to tread old storyline.

Their compromise is to marginalize the AS as much as possible.

 

[Frog-fu]

Also disappointed to find out that Aang never learned how to fly despite being an airbending prodigy. Though I find that a loss less stranger than Aang supposedly not learning how to metalbend which I find to be bullshit.

 

[Mononoke]

Flying doesn't seem too strange as a thing airbenders might do. Sky bison do it all the time. As with a lot of other stuff, the only aspect of it that maybe needs explanation is why it's not more common.

It also seems they tried to tie in the ability to fly to the more spiritual aspect of air bending? I guess air bending itself has always been deeply connected to spirituality, as the bending of air itself requires a lot of balance and ability to become one with the air.

I guess what I'm saying is, it's not like a physical thing that one can master and become so proficient at bending air, they can also learn to fly. It requires some deeper connection to pull it off (ie. letting go of all attachments or some shit). lol I do agree though. It seems insane to me that only Guru and Zaheer are the only two people that could let go. Because Zaheer was NOT a master air bender (physically). We saw him fumble and stumble all the time. He was just really powerful and aggressive. So it seems even a non master of air bending (at least from a physical bending perspective) can achieve it.

Then again, this just goes back to my point earlier. I mean, I think any time they introduce new bending, it will always make you wonder why no one else has done it before (unless the bending is so out of the box unique, that it makes sense that it took someone to trying it for the first time before it's discovered).

 

[Cloud Strife]

I was really hoping for

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Korra to speak with Raava, she's still there right?

 

[ObbyDent]

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Who say's he's dead?

The guys who directed the episode.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Also disappointed to find out that Aang never learned how to fly despite being an airbending prodigy. Though I find that a loss less stranger than Aang supposedly not learning how to metalbend which I find to be bullshit.

some have the talent, others don't. Chances are the avatar, being the master of bending, can do it but I feel that Aang never really had the time as it requires a lot of dedication and he was quite busy. Korra is just naturally talented which is different.

 

[Discotheque]

So what's the deal with that one soldier who shows up in the last episode and is given a name, but then she neither does something nor appears again?

I bet she was red lotus as soon as they gave her a name

That sucks that Korra's pops is gone, he was a g

Also it's about time somebody learned how to fly with airbending. Of course it's Zaheer da gawd

 

[The Silver]

Korra should learn lightning too so she can be first avatar to do that as well, and then bloodbending.

It makes sense why Aang wouldn't care for lightning, Korra doesn't give a fuck though

 

[Mononoke]

I bet she was red lotus as soon as they gave her a name

That sucks that Korra's pops is gone, he was a g

Also it's about time somebody learned how to fly with airbending. Of course it's Zaheer da gawd

Did you finish the second episode. Not sure how to reply to this, don't want to spoil if you are still watching.

 

[Htown]

Also disappointed to find out that Aang never learned how to fly despite being an airbending prodigy. Though I find that a loss less stranger than Aang supposedly not learning how to metalbend which I find to be bullshit.

It's okay that Aang didn't learn how to do literally everything. It really is.

Going "well they shouldn't be able to do it because Aang couldn't do it" is ridiculous. It's entirely, 100% okay for characters to be able to do things that Aang couldn't, and it's just as okay that Aang was not the literal best at literally everything.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Korra should learn lightning too so she can be first avatar to do that as well, and then bloodbending.

It makes sense why Aang wouldn't care for lightning, Korra doesn't give a fuck though

I think the main reason they aren't having Korra learn every single possible bending is more because they don't want the side characters to be completely not-special. Bolin will probably keep lavabending for himself out of the crew and chances are he won't do it much if Mako with his lightning is any indication.

 

[Mononoke]

It's okay that Aang didn't learn how to do literally everything. It really is.

Going "well they shouldn't be able to do it because Aang couldn't do it" is ridiculous. It's entirely, 100% okay for characters to be able to do things that Aang couldn't, and it's just as okay that Aang was not the literal best at literally everything.

Aang was also very attached to this earth.

 

[Discotheque]

Did you finish the second episode. Not sure how to reply to this, don't want to spoil if you are still watching.

....there's a second episode?

Lmao wtf I'm outta here

 

[Moaradin]

....there's a second episode?

Lmao wtf I'm outta here

 

[Cloud Strife]

Aang was also very attached to this earth.

This. It would have been cool if

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they had set up Zaheer as a pupil of Aang. An interesting foil because

Aang learned in the first series that the Avatar's duty "was to the world"

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therefore he could never achieve weightlessness like Zaheer or Guru Lahima. Zaheer could have been a fanatic Airbending guy obsessed with the culture and philosophy without being an airbender as he clearly was before this season.

 

[Mononoke]

....there's a second episode?

Lmao wtf I'm outta here

You are so lucky, I almost spoiled you before I realized you must not have seen the second half. I was in full on panic mode, and scrambled to edit my post out. So glad I did. Holy crap.

 

[zeemumu]

This. It would have been cool if

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they had set up Zaheer as a pupil of Aang. An interesting foil because

Aang learned in the first series that the Avatar's duty "was to the world"

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therefore he could never achieve weightlessness like Zaheer or Guru Lahima. Zaheer could have been a fanatic Airbending guy obsessed with the culture and philosophy without being an airbender as he clearly was before this season.

His duty as the Avatar and his connection to his friends and Katara wouldn't have allowed him to do it.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

There's plenty of reasons as to why Aang couldn't do it, but the writers need to explain why a history full of Air Nomad wise masters who are super spiritual and detached from wordly attachments couldn't do it. If they said "it's just a talent that only occurs in one out of a X airbenders" then maybe. But if it's just about philosophy, talent in general and spirituality I can't see it.

 

[Icyflamez96]

somebody else how awkward that makes it if Zaheer makes a return, seeing the VA's comments on suicide and Robin Williams. What a dick.

Huh? What happened?

 

[Fidelis Hodie]

All I asked for was one episode similar to the beach episode of ATLA of just the four of them hanging out. To be fair though, Azula and crew were a bit less evil evil evil evil than these guys so it worked for them. Azula was simply not mentally stable, psychotic and power hungry but with a twisted sense of humor. Zuko was an anti-hero in search for redemptio. And the other two girls were basically just following Azula around, largely because they were all together as friends and because they feared her.

That's probably one of my most hated episodes of the whole series for 3/4ths of it, so thank god it didn't happen.

I thought the baddies had more than enough set up and complexity.

 

[Icyflamez96]

Also disappointed to find out that Aang never learned how to fly despite being an airbending prodigy. Though I find that a loss less stranger than Aang supposedly not learning how to metalbend which I find to be bullshit.

It's not about being an airbender "prodigy." It's about letting go of all of your earthly tethers.

 

[Cloud Strife]

His duty as the Avatar and his connection to his friends and Katara wouldn't have allowed him to do it.

That's what I'm saying. A

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foil meaning a contrast between Zaheer and Aang. It would have set up with flight powerup a lot better.

 

[Mononoke]

http://pitchfork.com/news/56421-henry-rollins-criticizes-robin-williams-in-fuck-suicide-essay/

As someone pointed out though, the voice actors aren't necessarily in the same recording studio at the same time. So should he return next season, well... Either way...awkward.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Huh? What happened?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...williams-committing-suicide-article-1.1913229

That's probably one of my most hated episodes of the whole series for 3/4ths of it, so thank god it didn't happen.

I thought the baddies had more than enough set up and complexity.

How could people hate that episode? It's hilarious and a much needed break, not to mention it still brought character development. As someone who watches anime, it's the most significant beach episode I've seen as it wasn't just a throwaway gag episode and gave more character to the 'villains'.

 

[Mononoke]

I have to say, I'm still salty about Bolin in this finale. Seriously, the scene with him and the sock..and Opal's reaction made me cringe. Was that scene supposed to be played for laughs? Opal's reaction....was it supposed to be endearing?

I'm probably reading too much into it and projecting (just because of how annoyed i've been by his manchild antics). But holy hell, lol. I guess my question then is, how the fuck do they fix this mess going into Book 4?

I really loved this season. And the finale was excellent. But I did walk away from this thinking they really fucked up his character with this season. I wonder if he's too far gone to fix (or maybe I'm just being too dramatic).

 

[Icyflamez96]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...williams-committing-suicide-article-1.1913229

Oh yeah. Hopefully that doesn't turn out to be a big problem.

 

[Frog-fu]

some have the talent, others don't. Chances are the avatar, being the master of bending, can do it but I feel that Aang never really had the time as it requires a lot of dedication and he was quite busy. Korra is just naturally talented which is different.

I thought the talent thing was debunked? At the very least it seems inconsistent. Roku had trouble learning how to waterbend. Aang had trouble how to earthbend. We don't know if or how hard Korra must have struggled with firebending, but she fights more like a firebender than anything else.

It's okay that Aang didn't learn how to do literally everything. It really is.

Going "well they shouldn't be able to do it because Aang couldn't do it" is ridiculous. It's entirely, 100% okay for characters to be able to do things that Aang couldn't, and it's just as okay that Aang was not the literal best at literally everything.

I was and still am totally okay with Aang never learning how to lightningbend or bloodbend, but flight and metalbending seem right up his alley. Toph even said he wasn't done learning when it came to earthbending, which is why I find it hardly believe he didn't learn how to metalbend.

It's not about being an airbender "prodigy." It's about letting go of all of your earthly tethers.

Didn't Guru Pathik teach Aang how to let go of things so he could master the Avatar State? Still, I can buy Aang not learning how to fly as that would take years and as the Avatar he would always be busy.

 

[maharg]

I think this season stands even with S3 TLAB, but S1 Korra still stands head and shoulder above everything else.

We will definitely have to agree to disagree on that. Every season of Korra, including the first, has been an utter disappointment coming into it from ATLA. This is the first time the storytelling has actually stepped up to the plate and not been a serious veneer on a juvenile concept.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I actually feel that his snark/smartass comments during his fight against Ghazan were the right ways to use his sense of humor as it was badass when he said "I've learned a few tricks" and then did the little salute. As to the 'put a sock in it' I actually laughed because Opal is the first person to react to his joke, and she did it in a

fashion instead of pretending it was nothing like most people do. Guess their relationship will work. I've been on the 'Bolin is unfunny' train for a while this season, but I laughed at his antics this finale because of all the tension while usually there isn't enough to justify his bad jokes. When he pushed the mom aside to hug his waifu I laughed because they were both relieved and it was funny on that situation

I thought the talent thing was debunked? At the very least it seems inconsistent. Roku had trouble learning how to waterbend. Aang had trouble how to earthbend. We don't know if or how hard Korra must have struggled with firebending, but she fights more like a firebender than anything else..

No talent is a thing for specialized bending for non-avatar people. They said it in the episode Bolin is trying to metal bend when Korra was doing so.

 

[Epcott]

Awww

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broken Korra... She had a hard life

*Otakon tears*

Welllllp, hope there's a timeskip for season 4.

The way Nick treats this franchise, I doubt well get Avatar generation 3 after season 4, with steam cyberpunk cities and space benders or whatever.

 

[Frog-fu]

Ditto on the Bolin actually being funny this time around.

 

[unknownstranger]

Only real problem I had with the finale was

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how easy it was for Bolin and Mako to escape from Ghazan destroying the cave.

 

[Tuck]

Shamelessly stolen from Reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/2ebkz2/korras_mental_state_after_the_past_3_books/

Ever since Korra found out she was the Avatar she always thought her job would be like Aang before her. A simple menacing big bad that had to be taken down with her fists and fire. But over the course of these 3 books not only has she learned that her opponents would not just be simple warlords, instead conniving revolutionaries, backstabbing family members and ruthless terrorists, but she's broken by the fact she has had to be saved each and every time, beginning for her to believe that the world doesn't need the avatar.

Mako electrocuted Amon, giving Korra the motivation to finally learn airbending.
Aang saved Korra from losing her bending,as he energy bent her, restoring her powers.
She was manipulated by Unalaq to free Vaatu and despite using her inner strength to fight him Godzilla style, Jinora appeared and illuminated Ravva, allowing her to win the fight.
And now in book 3, she had to be saved by the airbenders when facing off against Zaheer.

She finaly broke when she saw Jinora with her Tattoo's and the announcement of the nomads becoming peacekeepers. Here she is, broken and in a wheelchair after nearly being killed by mercury and is now idle while essentially being replaced by the air nation who have taken it upon themselves to do her job, being lead by Aang "reborn". In the end she's not just afraid that the world does not need the avatar, she's afraid the world doesn't need her. So yeah, Korra's not doing so hot, but you can already guess that.

It would be absolutely fantastic is the dived into this topic next season.

I doubt that they will. But you know, it'd be nice.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Only real problem I had with the finale was

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how easy it was for Bolin and Mako to escape from Ghazan destroying the cave.

Really? Out of all the problems with the writing people had that's what got you? lol

 

[TangerineCloud]

I'm probably reading too much into it and projecting (just because of how annoyed i've been by his manchild antics). But holy hell, lol. I guess my question then is, how the fuck do they fix this mess going into Book 4?

I really loved this season. And the finale was excellent. But I did walk away from this thinking they really fucked up his character with this season. I wonder if he's too far gone to fix (or maybe I'm just being too dramatic).

Implying that they haven't already given up on the main cast. That's what it seems like to me, anyway. Mako, Bolin, and Asami all felt replaceable in Book 3.

 

[Icyflamez96]

Didn't Guru Pathik teach Aang how to let go of things so he could master the Avatar State? Still, I can buy Aang not learning how to fly as that would take years and as the Avatar he would always be busy.

That was either just for that one moment or he wasn't being as literal as Zaheer/Laghima was.

Zaheer did it after P'li dies because that was the last thing tying him down. Aang is not going to sever all of his meaningful relationships to get power... He aint no Sasuke

 

[Mononoke]

Ditto on the Bolin actually being funny this time around.

Really? I just found him to be really bad in the finale. The only moment I liked was him fighting Gahzan. But I thought his "plan" was pretty bad, as was his bird calls. And I really hated his sock moment, as I felt it kind of brought down the tone/mood of a very dark/serious plot point. Didn't like Opal's reaction either lol (again, I know I'm projecting..but damnit she seemed more annoyed than endeared lol)

Implying that they haven't already given up on the main cast. That's what it seems like to me, anyway. Mako, Bolin, and Asami all felt replaceable in Book 3.

lol fair enough. At least Mako stopped being annoying (well at least IMO since Book 2 he's been better). But yeah, they barely have enough time to flesh out the main plot, I guess it's wishful thinking to expect them to do any vast improvements of the cast at this point.

 

[unknownstranger]

Really? Out of all the problems with the writing people had that's what got you? lol

The writing didn't bother me much in the finale. The scene with P'li and Zaheer was a bit forced but that was basically it. I have problems with it throughout the season but not really the last 2 episodes.

 

[Icyflamez96]

Only real problem I had with the finale was

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how easy it was for Bolin and Mako to escape from Ghazan destroying the cave.

Yeah that was pretty lame....

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Lame for Ghazan. I mean, they had very little trouble getting out while Ghazan killed himself for it.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Really? I just found him to be really bad in the finale. The only moment I liked was him fighting Gahzan. But I thought his "plan" was pretty bad, as was his bird calls. And I really hated his sock moment, as I felt it kind of brought down the tone/mood of a very dark/serious plot point.

He's there as comic relief and it worked that time around. I'd agree with you usually but not for the finale, besides the really bad bird calls part at the beginning. You've been having some major issues with Bolin before though so maybe you were biased to hate any attempt at humor to begin with? And I don't mean that condescendingly as like I said I used to like him a lot, then grew tired of his bad jokes, then this finale kind of redeemed his character.

 

[Chariot]

Really? I just found him to be really bad in the finale. The only moment I liked was him fighting Gahzan. But I thought his "plan" was pretty bad, as was his bird calls. And I really hated his sock moment, as I felt it kind of brought down the tone/mood of a very dark/serious plot point.

I agree with his. His fight was decent, but his "funny" moments were misplaced. The birdjoke was only there for that seen where they meet up with the others and he announces their coming with it and the sock really ruined the moment.

 

[Icyflamez96]

I think everyone can agree the bird calls part was stupid. I also didn't like how Bolin sort of ruined the tone with that sock scene.

Overall I still liked him in the finale though.

 

[Mononoke]

He's there as comic relief and it worked that time around. I'd agree with you usually but not for the finale, besides the really bad bird calls part at the beginning. You've been having some major issues with Bolin before though so maybe you were biased to hate any attempt at humor to begin with? And I don't mean that condescendingly as like I said I used to like him a lot, then grew tired of his bad jokes, then this finale kind of redeemed his character.

I actually love Bolin as a character. I thought he was misused in most of Book 2 but had some great moments. And I liked him at the start of Book 3. But I found as they went along, he was more and more being played off as a man child and his humor was more obnoxious than timely or funny. I don't think I have a bias or want to hate him. Because as I said, I actually liked him the most out of Book 1 (besides Asami and Tenzin). I just feel like they have really dumbed him down after Book 1.

And I dunno, I just hated all his moments in this finale. Hated his plan, the bird call, the sock in the mouth part. All of it. Just rubbed me the wrong way.

EDIT: I did like Bolin's fight sequences though! I guess I just didn't care for him as comic relief. So I shouldn't say I flat out hated his character in the finale. For me, he was the only really negative thing I had to take away from the finale (which I really loved). But I guess maybe his moments bothered me more than most of you. Maybe when I re-watch it, it won't bug me as much.

 

[Guest12345678]

Was really disappointed with the last two seasons, but this season redeemed korra to me. The finale was really good. The action, animation and story was good, though I don't think I fully understood what Zaheer's character was all about. Even Bolin made me laugh when he pushed Suyin off Opal. Kind makes me sad since the first two seasons seems like such a waste in retrospect. I hope LoK isn't the last avatar series they'll do. I feel like the world still has a lot of potential.

 

[ObbyDent]

Shamelessly stolen from Reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/2ebkz2/korras_mental_state_after_the_past_3_books/



It would be absolutely fantastic is the dived into this topic next season.

I doubt that they will. But you know, it'd be nice.

This shows that Korra is a far deeper narrative than the naysayers would like us to believe. I'm looking at you... er, uh, pretty much everyone on NeoGAF.

 

[Frog-fu]

That was either just for that one moment or he wasn't being as literal as Zaheer/Laghima was.

Zaheer did it after P'li dies because that was the last thing tying him down. Aang is not going to sever all of his meaningful relationships to get power... He aint no Sasuke

Well, letting go and being untethered sound the same to me, but you could be right. Though, Aang did "let go" of Katara when he entered AS before being shot down by Azula. I don't think there's a reason to assume to let go he has to not care.

Really? I just found him to be really bad in the finale. The only moment I liked was him fighting Gahzan. But I thought his "plan" was pretty bad, as was his bird calls. And I really hated his sock moment, as I felt it kind of brought down the tone/mood of a very dark/serious plot point. Didn't like Opal's reaction either lol (again, I know I'm projecting..but damnit she seemed more annoyed than endeared lol)

To be fair, I was kind of kiddy from the awesome fight scenes and the sock thing kidda got to me. I found him painfully annoying in the first episode when he suggested his stupid bird calling idea or whatever it was.

More than the sock thing really, I don't like Zaheer went into foiled classic villain mode. That was weird.