Sony Pre-TGS 2014 SCEJA Conference - Wait we're in Japan? [Over]

I don't think Japan can really make game changers anymore anyway.

On the contrary Kagari, i think there are still a few on the scene who could who haven't left the industry entirely or moved to mobile/handheld.

Their issue is, they are too scared so they don't try. The Japanese industry right now is filled with nothing but cowards who are to stuck in moe moe, trying to gain bank micro transactional stuff, or just afraid in general of doing anything outside of the bubble they created themselves.

As Jm Sterling once said, many large japanese development houses created this environment through bad management throughout the last generation, and now act like it was just the player base who didn't appreciate their games when it was anything but.

Considering how many indies with like 1 or 2 people can get their stuff on next gen consoles, budgetary constraints cant even be the excuse anymore for many of these still big companies in general. Yet we have SE going towards mobile and once again, blaming the player base. Capcom is the same when they blew their own budgets on their own ignorance as to what made their franchises sell.

Even Namco Bandai which i think is probably the healthiest by far of these conglomerates still standing, still tries to survive on franchises more than a decade old.

Its not like they cant make good games, they just refuse to try and challenge themselves.
 
Waiting for a publisher foolish enough to pay them to develop yet another under-performing AAA console game. No luck so far, so they're keeping busy with a Vita game and a self published smartphone title.

Hopefully there's a chance since they were actually already on that big list of developers/publishers supporting the PS4 image that Sony put up last year. Though sticking with the pessimism of Japanese devs these days I guess I wouldn't be surprised if they were there because they got themselves licensed for PS4 really early to be ready just in case they got a project and not when they got a project.

I'd sure like to see one of their JRPGs on my PS4...
 
What are the chances SE makes another Star Ocean.....or did they kill that franchises with 4. Iirc it was one of their popular jrpgs excluding FF,KH or DQ.
 
I remember back when SO4 came out, the creative director on the project basically said it was the last Star ocean game he had planned to do.

I liked the battle system....but everything else was geh. The creepy doll like faces scared me. It wasnt that good overall. A shame considering 3/TTEOT was one of my favorite PS2 games.
 
My expectations are pretty low... I'm expecting shit that either panders to the west or panders to otaku. There's no in-between anymore.
 
All I want out of TGS is a next gen JRPG that isnt overly Moe or some weird online F2P thing.

Heck. I will take a HD port of Final Fantasy 12 or persona 5 once that isnt too weird as well if a proper next gen game is too much to ask.


I am already prepared for the disappointment.
 
Why even revive a mediocre series like ATL
Go hire matsuno/yoshida and make a new/better game




you guys must be mistaking it with the tgs key note they did last year. this one called sceja press conference had some decent announcements and here is a post recapping most of it



i would expect some good announcements at this conference. hopefully some ps4 games with gameplay shown rather than logos.
sorry
that ps4 list reeked




Even Namco Bandai which i think is probably the healthiest by far of these conglomerates still standing, still tries to survive on franchises more than a decade old.

Its not like they cant make good games, they just refuse to try and challenge themselves.
Level 5naissance!
 
WTF? Youtube live streams are not allowed in Germany??
Is there any alternative stream to watch the conference from Ger?
 
S-E making console games in Japan. Haha. That's a funny one.
square enix, in MY video game console? it's more likely than you think

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i just made myself sad.
 
Are we expecting any meaningful new announcements? Sorry if it was already discussed.

Its best to keep expectations low and it is hard to predict this stuff but:

- Gravity Rush 2
- Disgaea 5 / NIS game
- Ys 8 / Falcom game
- Bloodborne online reveal/ new trailer
- Yakuza 0 trailer
- Senran Kagura Estival Versus
- MGSV trailer (?)
 
Looking forward to the revival of Jumping Flash! and Ape Escape.
Setting myself up for disappointment.
 
Are we expecting any meaningful new announcements? Sorry if it was already discussed.

Define meaningful.

If by meaningful you mean a revival to the glory days, never. not this year, not next year, not ever.

If by meaningful you mean dream list like several AAA JRPGs, etc, never.

If meaningful means some good games, stuff that can push PS4 to above 10k weekly next year, MAYBE.
 
What are the chances SE makes another Star Ocean.....or did they kill that franchises with 4. Iirc it was one of their popular jrpgs excluding FF,KH or DQ.

Pretty much close to 0. For home consoles we will see only FF.KH and maybe DQ outside of that everything is dead on those platforms from them it seems. Not to mention it will take years for them to release something anyway.

What really interests me is what will Baba do with Tales after Zesteria. Will PS4 be able to support that series like PS3 did? I really doubt that...
Maybe we will see Zesteria PS4 as a test?
 
I'd consider the show a success if sony announced gravity days/rush upgraded port to PS4 with the sequel also coming to PS4
 
Its best to keep expectations low and it is hard to predict this stuff but:

- Gravity Rush 2
- Disgaea 5 / NIS game
- Ys 8 / Falcom game
- Bloodborne online reveal/ new trailer
- Yakuza 0 trailer
- Senran Kagura Estival Versus
- MGSV trailer (?)

I think trailers for MGSV, Yakuza 0, Bloodborne, etc are a given at this point. They're also not likely to be particularly exciting for most people for various reasons. I don't expect a release date for MGSV for example. Would be nice for people already following the games, but nothing we don't already expect.

Smaller stuff like Senran, Neptunia, NIS stuff will probably be there in some form. I dunno if NIS is ready to announce Disgaea 5 though. It might also be a bit too early for Falcom to show off their next major title. Sen 2 is shipping in Sept, so whatever they release next will probably be a late 2015 title earliest. That would be a nice surprise if it does show up.

First Party wise I'm not really sure what to expect. The problem with Sony is that they have a lot of potentially intriguing stuff they could announce for Japan, but their Japanese studio seems to be so limited in resources (or just management maybe?) that nothing exciting comes out of it in a timely manner.
 
I will eat my chocolate hat if Square Enix ever contracts tri-Ace to make a console game not named Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts.

Even if Tri-Ace might have had a good Valkyria or Star Ocean pitch to Square, they'll just ask them to rebrand that pitch into a FF or KH game.
 
Define meaningful.

If by meaningful you mean a revival to the glory days, never. not this year, not next year, not ever.

If by meaningful you mean dream list like several AAA JRPGs, etc, never.

If meaningful means some good games, stuff that can push PS4 to above 10k weekly next year, MAYBE.

Meaningful, for me, means at least one AAA announcement that isn't JRPG (sorry, those are just not my thing).

I'm not expecting Uncharted 4 gameplay, God of War 4 reveal, Guerilla Games new IP or something like that, but I'd like to see what, for example, what Sony Bend is doing or Media Molecule's new project (since those don't seem like $50-100 million projects).

Of course, there is the eternal hope for The Last Guardian, but that's probably dead or waiting for an epic E3 2015 re-reveal with millions crying of happiness.
 
Pretty much close to 0. For home consoles we will see only FF.KH and maybe DQ outside of that everything is dead on those platforms from them it seems. Not to mention it will take years for them to release something anyway.

What really interests me is what will Baba do with Tales after Zesteria. Will PS4 be able to support that series like PS3 did? I really doubt that...
Maybe we will see Zesteria PS4 as a test?

I think we will get Tales of Xillia Double Pack at first.
 
I wonder what happened to Deep Down. Following the twitter account, it keeps being pushed back for some reason.

May 9th
- More info coming soon

June 11
- More info coming at the end of the month

June 30
-More info coming in the middle of July

August 1st
- More info coming in the middle of August

And still nothing. Wonder if it will show up here.
 
Finally Sony will team with Tecmo Koei/Omega Force to give me my God of War Musou.

What are the chances SE makes another Star Ocean.....or did they kill that franchises with 4. Iirc it was one of their popular jrpgs excluding FF,KH or DQ.

Man I wish, but SO4 was supposed to be the last one, I wouldn't mind a spiritual successor franchise though. Still my favorite JRPG franchise next to Phantasy Star and Ys.
 
I thought triace only worked on xiii2
But looking at wiki
They helped with xiiilr also?
Shame if se only uses them for code monkeys now
 
Actually there are rumors that LR started as a VP game :P.

It's not a rumor, it's just bullshit I was having fun with because of the similarities it had with VP. That was never the case. :P

tri-Ace didn't have much involvement in LR compared to FFXIII-2. They just provided some animation assistance iirc. No design or programming work.
 
S-E making console games in Japan. Haha. That's a funny one.

They're definitely very interested in making games in Japan for the western market though. I think the resources they're likely putting in 15, Kh3, ARR and Type-0 HD are proof enough of that. PS4 is selling so well in the world that I don't think they can ignore this for long. Sure, they'll have the usuals tons of mobiles, but in the west we don't buy them as much as japanese do and a big publisher/company like S-E Japan can't definitely survive with just a local market. I think that – to a certain extent – Ps4 will make Japan relevant again in the long run if sales continue to rise as now. I think what Konami is achieving with Kojima, Fox Engine, MGS (on PC...) and Silent Hills are proof of this already. Capcom and S-E will likely follow. After them, all the others. This unless Ps4 stops selling.
 
Hopefully Level 5 is feeling good about all that money from their new hit series and are willing to jump into the current gen with something like Dark Cloud 3.

It would just be nice to see a pulse for current-gen really. Announce new Resident Evil, Level 5 PS4 project .. a serious one , Street Fighter IV PS4, show more from Deep Down, show some JRPG's, etc.

You would have to think Sony is trying pretty hard to get some devs to jump into the generation with the momentum they have ... so who knows it could be a worthwhile show.
 
Hopefully Level 5 is feeling good about all that money from their new hit series and are willing to jump into the current gen with something like Dark Cloud 3.

It would just be nice to see a pulse for current-gen really. Announce new Resident Evil, Level 5 PS4 project .. a serious one , Street Fighter IV PS4, show more from Deep Down, show some JRPG's, etc.

You would have to think Sony is trying pretty hard to get some devs to jump into the generation with the momentum they have ... so who knows it could be a worthwhile show.

About Level 5 is Wonder Flick on PS4 out?
 
About Level 5 is Wonder Flick on PS4 out?

Nope. Their smartphone initiative has been a bit of a disaster. Wonder Flick had severe launch issues which took a while to be ironed out. It's still not out on any non-mobile platforms. They terminated the service for their boobie slotmachine game. Majin Station shows no sign of being real. Very poorly handled.
 
I think trailers for MGSV, Yakuza 0, Bloodborne, etc are a given at this point. They're also not likely to be particularly exciting for most people for various reasons. I don't expect a release date for MGSV for example. Would be nice for people already following the games, but nothing we don't already expect.

Smaller stuff like Senran, Neptunia, NIS stuff will probably be there in some form. I dunno if NIS is ready to announce Disgaea 5 though. It might also be a bit too early for Falcom to show off their next major title. Sen 2 is shipping in Sept, so whatever they release next will probably be a late 2015 title earliest. That would be a nice surprise if it does show up.

First Party wise I'm not really sure what to expect. The problem with Sony is that they have a lot of potentially intriguing stuff they could announce for Japan, but their Japanese studio seems to be so limited in resources (or just management maybe?) that nothing exciting comes out of it in a timely manner.

NIS said they were going to reveal a PS4 game at TGS and really Disgaea 5 came into the equation due to this:

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Could be something else but it certainly looks like a new Disgaea.
Falcom noted they were working behind the scenes on a PS4 game last year thats why I reckoned an announcement was due. I agree that its most likely a late 2015 title at best.

I don't agree that they have a lot of potentially intriguing stuff from SCEJ though. Hot Shots and Gravity Rush 2. I don't expect GT7 to be revealed or ready. What else is there? Secret AAA JRPG.......one can wish.
 
3am huh? Is this the only Sony conference that they have for TGS? Since it's "pre" I'm not sure if they have an actual conference at TGS.
 
NIS said they were going to reveal a PS4 game at TGS and really Disgaea 5 came into the equation due to this:

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Could be something else but it certainly looks like a new Disgaea.
Falcom noted they were working behind the scenes on a PS4 game last year thats why I reckoned an announcement was due. I agree that its most likely a late 2015 title at best.

I don't agree that they have a lot of potentially intriguing stuff from SCEJ though. Hot Shots and Gravity Rush 2. I don't expect GT7 to be revealed or ready. What else is there? Secret AAA JRPG.......one can wish.

Truly excited about a PS4 Disgaea game. The sharing / streaming would be awesome for this type of game.

Disgaea 4 is awesome too so can't wait for 5. They don't seem to be getting stale with the series either and somehow keep this formula feeling really good so can't wait for that.
 
NIS said they were going to reveal a PS4 game at TGS and really Disgaea 5 came into the equation due to this:

Oh they did? If they did say that then Disgaea 5 will probably be there, yeah.

I don't agree that they have a lot of potentially intriguing stuff from SCEJ though. Hot Shots and Gravity Rush 2. I don't expect GT7 to be revealed or ready. What else is there? Secret AAA JRPG.......one can wish.

SCEJ has a lot of potential if they act on it. I don't mean stuff which have been rumored or whatever, just that they have a history of having interesting IPs and projects which could make a good impact on fans now if they act on it like they used to. Gran Turismo, Hot Shots Golf, Ico, Wild Arms, Dark Cloud, White Knight Chronicles, Siren, Gravity Rush, Puppeteer, Arc the Lad, Ape Escape, PaRappa, the list goes on. Yet the modern SCEJ is a husk of unproductivity. Sad.
 
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